FC Bayern München launching an ambitious basketball project

[fasoulaki]

...of course only if you don't count clubs like Real Madrid, Barca, Galatarasay, PAOK etc. etc. etc as soccer clubs.

...Panathinaikos, Olympiakos....

but no one of the mentioned soccer clubs shares (to my knowledge) his funds with the corresponding basketball team. The basketball section has its own funding which is completly independent.

To build the complete basketball infrastructure starting from scratch and to reach and keep a level where you can compete on european level consumes a considerable amount of funds. Funds that would be missing for the soccer section.

These artificial and ambitious basketball projects make completly no sense. Succesful basketball teams in Germany have another (more modest) approach. Most of them are located in rather small or medium sized cities without strong soccer team. They invested a lot of time to build a solid fanbase and somekind of public basketball tradition. As a result they got solvent sponsors interested in longterm investments.

The big exception is ALBA Berlin. However, ALBA is now 20 years on the market and has gained a very good infrastracture and a strong fanbase. But still cannot compete on european level. Why should Bayern München be more successful?

[Booker-T]

but no one of the mentioned soccer clubs shares (to my knowledge) his funds with the corresponding basketball team. The basketball section has its own funding which is completly independent.

afaik Real Madrid and Barca Basketball sections are mainly sponsored by the football sections. Whereas Hoeness has strengthened that this in München will only be the case in the first season. Later they will have to find their own funding.

However, ALBA is now 20 years on the market and has gained a very good infrastracture and a strong fanbase. But still can not compete on a european level

2009-10: 2nd in Eurocup
2008-09: Euroleague Top 16

[uhg80]

Whereas Hoeness has strengthened that this in München will only be the case in the first season. Later they will have to find their own funding.

In the first place, the decision to launch an ambitious basketball project was backed up by 75% of the clubs' members.

Giving the huge popularity and success of the brand FC Bayern, they should be able to find enough sponsors, I think. The media attention was huge for a basketball topic. Talk of the summer.

[fasoulaki]

2009-10: 2nd in Eurocup
2008-09: Euroleague Top 16

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!


We will see how things develop! However I am very sceptical due to the experience with the basketball team in Cologne, Leverkusen, Duesseldorf ...

[ArnoldPettybone]

Great success for the "project"* so far. 15-1 at the top of the league (2nd is 12-2), a 21 February home game against Würzburg at 20 February to be held in front of 8,000 fans at the Olympiahalle and 5,000 tickets that were issued at 12.12 were already sold in a Week! The visitor team in the only one to defeat the Bavarians this season.


*Hate that word when it used specificity in that way ans sense, as in to describe a Sleeper sport club who tries to get to the top. Had enough of it here with Hapoel TA and Maccabi Haifa..

[sagenas]

They can become German's powerhouse in common seasons but I don't think that they can become as good as Barca, Olympiacos, Panathinaikos and other ball teams which are mentioned here. The biggest reason of that - there aren't very much German local players whho could succesfully play in Euroleague level. For example, Spain has many good local players so teams like Real, Barca.

[Mindozas]

They can become German's powerhouse in common seasons but I don't think that they can become as good as Barca, Olympiacos, Panathinaikos and other ball teams which are mentioned here. The biggest reason of that - there aren't very much German local players whho could succesfully play in Euroleague level. For example, Spain has many good local players so teams like Real, Barca.

Why is that? There're no foreigners limits in EL you know and quite open system in Germany (7 or 8 foreigners allowed with no difference are they from EU or US), so you can build a decent team with that

[qiangdade]

There are a lot of young german talented players that could supplement top level foreigners. Robin Benzing, Tibor Pleiss, Tim Ohlbrecht, Luca Staiger, Elias Harris to name a few.

[sagenas]

Tell me, what are limits of foreign players in Bundesliga? Imo, any team needs good local players if they want to reach something...of course, they could make smth like Macabbi made. However, I don't believe that they could reach that level like Barca and teams like that.

Best German players are already owned by other Germany powerhouses
By the way, Tim Ohlbrecht and Lucca Staiger seemed very interesting in friendly games of German NT.

[qiangdade]

Tell me, what are limits of foreign players in Bundesliga? Imo, any team needs good local players if they want to reach something...of course, they could make smth like Macabbi made. However, I don't believe that they could reach that level like Barca and teams like that.

Best German players are already owned by other Germany powerhouses
By the way, Tim Ohlbrecht and Lucca Staiger seemed very interesting in friendly games of German NT.

As Benzing said (that is my source) this year the rule is 5+7 and from 2012 on it will be 6+6 in the German BBL.

When you have money you can buy players.

I consider Benzing, Pleiss and Harris, better than Ohlbrecht and Staiger. Besides I only mentioned a few, there are more talented players. Thank you St.Dirk

[sagenas]

As Benzing said (that is my source) this year the rule is 5+7 and from 2012 on it will be 6+6 in the German BBL.

When you have money you can buy players.

I consider Benzing, Pleiss and Harris, better than Ohlbrecht and Staiger. Besides I only mentioned a few, there are more talented players. Thank you St.Dirk

Germany has talented generation right now but they won't become highest level players if they can't get a chance in their teams. However, in my opinion Germany just doesn't have that good local players if they want to become Euroleague's powerhouse - to play in Final 4 and things like that.

[yocki land]

sounds like an amzing project (ecpecially as a bayren fan).
at the past few years israel had few teams that have "big name" from football trying and create big team in basketball. it was not a long time ago so we can't look at this in prespectives.
how do you estimate the general level of "pro a" league?

[DanMajerle]

Uli Hoeneß talks about plans for the future.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-sport/basketball/2011/01/02/hoeness-basketball/bayern-passt-das.html

Next year, they plan to have a 6-8 Mio Euro budget which wouldn't be a problem for them from the financial standpoint. He also mentions "Audi" is interested in becoming a main sponsor and that a lot of other sponsors are interested.

[Joško Poljak Fan]

Nice project and a nice read.

Players aren't an issue. As Qiang said, St.Dirk obviously managed to bring some kids into basketball, Rome wasn't build in a day, but with few seasons of patience given responsibility under the right coach they can become cornerstones for a top team - that still takes time though.

I got through all the reading, reminding myself just how bad I've become with my german

[DanMajerle]

Bayern Munich manages to win the match vs second ranked Würzburg and is now leading the standings by four wins. So they're most likely qualified for german first league next season.
The game was played in front of 12.200 spectators in the Olympiahalle in Munich, which sets a new attendance record for the second german league.

http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/inhalt.bayerns-basketballer-total-geplaettet.fec012a8-527a-4a10-b64a-b74ce1129435.html