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    Next season at VTB will participate 12 teams separated in 2 groups.

    Russia: 4 best clubs
    Lithuania: Kauno "Žalgiris" and Vilniaus "Lietuvos rytas";
    Latvia: Rygos VEF;
    Estonia: Talino "Kalev";
    Poland: Sopoto "Trefl" and Gdynės "Prokom";
    Ukraine: Kijevo "Budivelnyk" and Mariupolio "Azovmaš".

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGLR View Post
    Next season at VTB will participate 12 teams separated in 2 groups.

    Russia: 4 best clubs
    Lithuania: Kauno "Žalgiris" and Vilniaus "Lietuvos rytas";
    Latvia: Rygos VEF;
    Estonia: Talino "Kalev";
    Poland: Sopoto "Trefl" and Gdynės "Prokom";
    Ukraine: Kijevo "Budivelnyk" and Mariupolio "Azovmaš".
    Well, very nice competitive league. Having in mind that 7 teams surely hold the level of Euroleague (4 Russian teams, 2 Lithuanian, 1 Polish) and other teams are not bad at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkadiosV2 View Post
    Four Russian teams hold EL level? Which ones except for obvious CSKA and Khimki?
    I think Unics and Dinamo. Ok, they at least have potential to hold the level of Euroleague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IGLR View Post
    Next season at VTB will participate 12 teams separated in 2 groups.

    Russia: 4 best clubs
    Lithuania: Kauno "Žalgiris" and Vilniaus "Lietuvos rytas";
    Latvia: Rygos VEF;
    Estonia: Talino "Kalev";
    Poland: Sopoto "Trefl" and Gdynės "Prokom";
    Ukraine: Kijevo "Budivelnyk" and Mariupolio "Azovmaš".
    Hm...Kalev is very weak team now and didn't even get to Estonian final. Are you sure about this list?

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    Sergej Cernov few days ago said it to newspaper "Lietuvos rytas".

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    update
    according to the general manager of the league Shirokov -
    12 teams split in two groups - winners go straight to final four,second and third to have a play off game.
    Russia: 4 clubs
    Lithuania: Kauno "Žalgiris"
    Estonia: Talino "Kalev";
    Poland: prokom
    Ukraine: Kijevo "Budivelnyk" and Mariupolio "Azovmash
    Latvia =VEF

    Lrytas have some conditions (English as an official language ?) which are achievable .
    somehow unclear about the rest of the teams - he says that Poland might have two teams,but only prokom definitely makes the cut - for the last place there are many candidates - Minks,Tartu, Venspils, Barons, Siauliai and Honka (Finland),the last one mainly because it might attract some big sponsorship from Finland
    http://news.sport-express.ru/2010-06-15/368242/
    Last edited by auris1; 07-01-2010 at 05:38 PM.

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    According to not so reliable source again(krepsinis.net) the last team to join the league is Belarussian team Minsk 2006. I can only guess what level they represent nowadays, but i do not see them being competitive. Fourth place in the group tops
    But it is only 200 km from Vilnius,and 300 km from Kaunas.Plus now there are 7 countries competing

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    Группа А: ЦСКА (РОССИЯ), Летувос Ритас (Литва), УНИКС (РОССИЯ), Днепр (Украина), Хонка (Финляндия), Минск-2006 (Беларусь)

    Группа В: Калев (Эстония), ВЭФ (Латвия), Проком (Польша), Жальгирис (Литва), Химки (РОССИЯ), Азовмаш (Украина)

    Very good group for Lietuvos Rytas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagenas View Post
    Группа А: ЦСКА (РОССИЯ), Летувос Ритас (Литва), УНИКС (РОССИЯ), Днепр (Украина), Хонка (Финляндия), Минск-2006 (Беларусь)

    Группа В: Калев (Эстония), ВЭФ (Латвия), Проком (Польша), Жальгирис (Литва), Химки (РОССИЯ), Азовмаш (Украина)

    Very good group for Lietuvos Rytas.
    better than for Zalgiris,definately - probably will be close call with with Uniks for the second place in the group.
    Zalgiris might get just the same either first or fourth place in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auris1 View Post
    better than for Zalgiris,definately - probably will be close call with with Uniks for the second place in the group.
    Zalgiris might get just the same either first or fourth place in between.
    both teams can be first in their group. CSKA, nor Chimki isn't unbeatable team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagenas View Post
    Группа А: ЦСКА (РОССИЯ), Летувос Ритас (Литва), УНИКС (РОССИЯ), Днепр (Украина), Хонка (Финляндия), Минск-2006 (Беларусь)

    Группа В: Калев (Эстония), ВЭФ (Латвия), Проком (Польша), Жальгирис (Литва), Химки (РОССИЯ), Азовмаш (Украина)

    Very good group for Lietuvos Rytas.
    You could have translated those

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    Group A: CSKA (Russia), Lietuvos Rytas (Lithuania), UNIKS (Russia), Dnepr (Ukraine), Honka (Finland), Minsk-2006 (Belarus)

    Group B: BC Kalev (Estonia), VEF (Latvia), Prokom (Poland), Žalgiris (Lithuania), Khimki (Russia), Azovmash (Ukraine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur View Post
    You could have translated those

    PS: Thanks Demarr!
    I thought you'd understand it

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    Vice-premier of Russia Sergey Ivanov wants to secrifice our national championship for the f..cking League of VTB. I really hope that this IDIOTIC idea with a crushing defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaslover View Post
    Vice-premier of Russia Sergey Ivanov wants to secrifice our national championship for the f..cking League of VTB. I really hope that this IDIOTIC idea with a crushing defeat.
    meaning?
    any articles you know of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by auris1 View Post
    meaning?
    any articles you know of?
    There was many rumors about that. You know that Russian league crushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagenas View Post
    There was many rumors about that. You know that Russian league crushed.
    And?
    there is a new league,with lithuanian in charge-Rutkauskas i think,there was recently his big interview,and i read some feedback in sport express ru of why it was such a bad idea to have him,but i far as i know there is nothing related to VTB and a new russian league.All the teams previously in the league had signed for new russian league,apart from one due to finances.Now to make all that noise for 3 teams in VTB is like saying that Zalgiris and lrytas are sacrificing LKL just because they play in BBl.Nonsense.The person is misinformed to say the least

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    Quote Originally Posted by auris1 View Post
    And?
    there is a new league,with lithuanian in charge-Rutkauskas i think,there was recently his big interview,and i read some feedback in sport express ru of why it was such a bad idea to have him,but i far as i know there is nothing related to VTB and a new russian league.All the teams previously in the league had signed for new russian league,apart from one due to finances.Now to make all that noise for 3 teams in VTB is like saying that Zalgiris and lrytas are sacrificing LKL just because they play in BBl.Nonsense.The person is misinformed to say the least
    As i heard, Sergey Ivanov offers 7 russian teams(it just means that Krasnie Krilya, Enisey and new comer Nizniy Novgorod will be smoke bamboo in this situation),Zalgiris and LR (and it means that Neptunas, Siauliai,Sacalai and other lithuanian clubs eventually will play in their own league WITHOUT two MAJOR grants of lithuanian basketball, and lithuanian kids will be definitely STAGNATED),one latvian team (for example VEF),one ukranian club (Budivelnik)and most probably one belorussian club...
    Well, do you like this system of tournament? I don,t really...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaslover View Post
    As i heard, Sergey Ivanov offers 7 russian teams(it just means that Krasnie Krilya, Enisey and new comer Nizniy Novgorod will be smoke bamboo in this situation),Zalgiris and LR (and it means that Neptunas, Siauliai,Sacalai and other lithuanian clubs eventually will play in their own league WITHOUT two MAJOR grants of lithuanian basketball, and lithuanian kids will be definitely STAGNATED),one latvian team (for example VEF),one ukranian club (Budivelnik)and most probably one belorussian club...
    Well, do you like this system of tournament? I don,t really...
    what?
    Are you drinking more than me?
    Absolutely no sense in your post.
    Sober up man.Although i do post most of the time here drunk too.But then again,i probably know more about basketball than you ,me being blind drunk and paralytic.
    lucky me

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    Quote Originally Posted by auris1 View Post
    what?
    Are you drinking more than me?
    Absolutely no sense in your post.
    Sober up man.Although i do post most of the time here drunk too.But then again,i probably know more about basketball than you ,me being blind drunk and paralytic.
    lucky me
    My dear friend,something disturbs you in my post? Explain me please. Or you don,t believe that in one beautiful day VTB League eventually will REPLACE russian and lithuanian national leagues? We,ll see actually...

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