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    I like Beno Udrih
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    I saw that there is no real summery meanwhile, so I mad a 13 video. Enjoy:


    Just finished uploading so you are the first to get this link
    May take few minutes of possessing until the quality will be fine.
    Watching this tonight at live was so exiting! All this against my most hated team in the world!

    Edit: so divided it to 2 parts and reuploading it :/
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    I know you want to share as much footage as possible, but...
    This video has been removed because it is too long. Regular YouTube videos must be 10 minutes or less.
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    I broke it into two parts, now it's OK:

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    Amazing! Got the PG skills in a SG body --- if he just plays aggressive like this I won't be surprised if he turns into another Ginobili (he might not be as tall but those super long arms make up for it).

    Thanks for the vids man. I see you post lots of NBA videos, do you record all games? BTW I was a little surprised to see Chinese texts @~5:40.
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    Thanks for the video, IP.
    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    Amazing! Got the PG skills in a SG body --- if he just plays aggressive like this I won't be surprised if he turns into another Ginobili (he might not be as tall but those super long arms make up for it).
    Yes, he is a very aggressive guy, isn't he?
    Deep in Reserve - by Johnny Ludden, Yahoo! Sports, May 9, 2010

    Goran Dragic spun the San Antonio Spurs in every direction, taking them to the rim for layups, throwing in one 3-pointer after another, and he wasn’t done yet. Dragic drove hard into the lane once more, jabbed a couple feints at the Spurs and flipped in yet another remarkable shot. His own coach tossed up his hands in disbelief.

    “Jesus Christ!” Alvin Gentry shouted.

    Yes, the night belonged to Goran Almighty. His stunning 23 points in the final quarter lifted the Phoenix Suns to a 110-96 victory and gave them a 3-0 stranglehold on the series, and no one could say they saw this coming.

    “We only expected 21 in the fourth quarter when we drafted him,” deadpanned Suns general manager Steve Kerr.

    In truth, the Suns saw enough in Dragic two years ago, and this speaks to the razor-thin line between winning and losing, between good teams and great ones. The Spurs know this as well as anyone. They built the foundation for their past three championships by gambling late draft picks on a couple of foreign kids. Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker grew into NBA All-Stars.

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    As recently as a year ago, Dragic didn’t look like much himself; a half-season under Terry Porter had shredded his confidence. Not until Gentry became head coach did Dragic’s minutes – and self-esteem – receive a boost.

    Gentry’s message to Dragic: “He said, ‘Hey kid, don’t worry if you do some mistakes. Just play your game.’ ”

    ....

    “It might extend Steve’s career five or six years if Dragic keeps playing like that,” Popovich said.

    From the start of the fourth quarter to the final buzzer, the Spurs never found an answer for Dragic. He threw in one last 3-pointer, and as the final seconds ticked off the clock, the Suns poured onto the court and wrapped their young guard in a hug.

    “Other than M.J., I don’t remember anyone doing anything like that … in a huge game … under pressure … especially a young kid,” Kerr said later in the celebratory din of the locker room. “That’s ridiculous.”

    Kerr shook his head. Jesus Christ, Michael Jordan and Goran Almighty. The playoffs have a way of making the most unlikely of heroes. Sometimes it pays to be lucky. It helps even more when you’re also the better team.
    "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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    There i finally was able to make a vid of his amazing game

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZngGTqMrOW8

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    The author of this post played against Dragic as a teenager. These are his observations. Please click on the link to support the posting of these kinds of great articles. I left a lot out, so you have to click on it to read everything!
    Goran Dragic from a Slovenian's Perspective - Valley of the Suns Blog, May 10, 2010 by by Erik Vidmar

    Editor’s Note: Erik Vidmar, 24, recently finished his fifth year of medical school in Ljubljana, Slovenia. He has played basketball since he was 12 and competed against Goran Dragic when they were both growing up in Slovenia.


    The first time I saw Goran playing basketball I was 15 years old. We were playing against a small basketball club Iliria from our capital town of Ljubljana. Before the game our coach warned us about some of their players, especialy about one player who was not so very tall, but extremely quick and dangerous for the basket. His name was Goran Dragic.

    We thought that our coach was overreacting...

    After the game I asked some people about him and they told me that they call him Gogi, which is short for Goran and that they are expecting that soon should appear an offer from a bigger club....

    After two years in 2004 I heard that basketball club Slovan from a Slovenian league acquired Goran, and I knew that that was great because they were known to be one of the best for developement of young talented players....

    Thank god Steve Kerr knew how good a player Goran is and believed in him from the first day. And I think that a huge part of his succes lies in Steve Nash, who is mentoring him for the last two years and believeing that Goran can succesfully repleace him when he decides to retire.

    ...Funny thing is that when Spurs drafted Goran and traded him to Suns everybody was saying that Spurs made one of the bigest mistakes because Goran was known to be good in offense but also in defense, which he proved in the European Championship game against France in 2007 when he was the only player to stop Tony Parker in key moments of the game (Slovenia won that game and they all said that Goran showed he isn’t afraid of NBA players like Parker).

    Together with joy after this huge game against the Spurs came the concern that now that Goran showed how important he is for Phoenix that they wouldn’t let him play for Slovenia in September...
    "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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    Relative of Gašper Vidmar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur View Post
    Relative of Gašper Vidmar?
    I doubt. Vidmar is a very common surname name here in Slovenia...

    http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/kosarka/1042358201

    http://translate.google.com/translat...01&sl=sl&tl=en

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    Any interviews with Goran himself at Sloveinan sport sites?

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    Just another AP article on Dragic:
    Dragic Having Breakout Season - May 14, 2010, by Matt Paulson, AP

    ...“I think it’s safe to say that may have been the best fourth-quarter performance I have ever seen in a playoff game,” teammate Grant Hill said.

    The Suns play the Los Angeles Lakers in the Western Conference finals starting Monday, and Kobe Bryant, who doesn’t usually talk about opposing backups, mentioned him by name.

    “Dragic has really stepped up. He’s making huge contributions,” Bryant told reporters in Los Angeles when asked about Phoenix’s strong bench play.

    Perhaps Dragic’s most important contribution has been the quality minutes he’s give the Suns, who have been looking for a strong backup for Nash since he returned to Phoenix six years ago.

    As a result, Nash averaged fewer than 33 minutes this season for the first time since 1999-2000.

    ...Dragic’s scoring average was up slightly this season, to 7.9 from 4.5, but he has shown signs that he can be a dangerous shooter. He scored at least 14 points nine times in the regular season, including a career-high 32 at Utah on Jan. 25, and in the playoffs he’s shooting 44.4 percent from 3-point range.

    Gentry said Dragic has improved the most in the areas of his game that don’t show up on the stat sheet.

    “The thing that I like about what he’s done this year is that his floor game and leadership on the floor really expanded,” Gentry said.

    ...Under then-coach Terry Porter, Dragic played in just 26 of 51 games.

    “I was struggling. … I was doubting me if I was good enough for this league,” he said.

    After Gentry, who was committed to developing a deeper bench, took over at the All-Star break during the 2008-09 season, Dragic appeared in 29 of 31 games and his confidence grew with every minute played.

    “Alvin gave me a lot of opportunities, and he says, ‘Son, just keep playing your game. Don’t worry if you’re going to make some mistakes. Just play your game,”’ Dragic said.

    “My confidence is huge right now. … This year is totally different. I feel like I’m playing back in Europe with my friends. I’m really relaxed and just playing my game.”
    "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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    Quote Originally Posted by ip84 View Post
    Any interviews with Goran himself at Sloveinan sport sites?
    Here you go

    http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/kosarka/1042358201

    Bothing new was said though...Oh they did use your youtube mix in the article though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha12 View Post
    Here you go

    http://www.dnevnik.si/sport/kosarka/1042358201

    Bothing new was said though...Oh they did use your youtube mix in the article though
    I think him playing can be fore the benefit of the Suns, because he is going to have important roll at the NT, and will gain experience and confidence.

    OT, but since then I mad also video of Nash's 4th quarter with the swollen eye:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU76A3T9pbE

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    It's magic indeed man!I don't know everytime I see him I'm about to lose my mind,the progress of this guy is unbelievable and it shows that if you are smart and you have good work ethic then playing in the NBA can be a real blessing in order to develop to a world class player!He can easily become soon the best European guard,great body,athletic,quick,true playmaker,sky is the limit!And I really wish to see Slovenia in the Mundobasket with all their stars,although many stars are usually hard to form a great team but I really wish this to be true and also see Italy with the NBA players etc,so that international basketball competitions will regain the glamour and the glory of the good old times!(OT Gasol as he performs in these play-offs can be easily considered as the the best PF-C tweener in the world!)

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    I still don't know how this game or the series and the playoffs will end, but I really have been enjoying Dragic. So elegant!!!

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    I said this before the run of the 4th quarter and before amazing move!!! Go Phoenix!
    Last edited by ip84; 05-26-2010 at 03:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvblair View Post
    The author of this post played against Dragic as a teenager. These are his observations. Please click on the link to support the posting of these kinds of great articles. I left a lot out, so you have to click on it to read everything!
    hahahahaha

    He only wants some attention, because in his comments there is a lot of wrong information about Dragic.

    Dragic was totally unknown until his 18th birthday, and as far as I know, he played in 2.division (1.A--->1.B--->2.) for senior team of Ilirija. The juniors of Ilirija played in first slovenian division with relative success. His first (and only)coach in Ilirija was Spasoje 'Spale' Todorovic, former center player of Olimpija, Helios and Ilirija. Dragic wasn't even in national program for youngsters and Spale was begging U-20 Slovenia coach Ivan Sunara to accept him on NT U-20 tryout. He made it althought he was 2 years younger with Zan Vrecko.

    One scout of J.R., working for Slovan a year ago before his arrival in Slovan, got curious when he heard that Spale wanted to send Dragic to Olimpija and that they made fun of him there(beacuse he had minor drinking problems from time to time). Olimpija didn't want to pay nothing for kid from Ilirija (it is rumoured that they offered 40 b-balls), which totally devastated Spale. That scout asked J.R. if he could arrange a money for deal with Ilirija. The irony was that Ilirija was succesful in coming to playoffs for 1.B and reaching league higher. Because Ilirija at that time was in financial crisis, their management accepted the offer immediatly.

    Dragic first played Adriatic league
    http://www.adriaticbasket.info/w2/pl...?id=614&sez=04
    under Jure Zdovc and didn't show nothing special as offensive player. Then Zdovc resigned in the middle of the season and he seemed much better, but nothing special. The problem was, there was a bunch of players on PG position. In the games that Slovan was trying to win, he wasn't really there to contribute, but to relax key players. In the national playoffs for Slovenian league he and Jan Rozman showed up as big prospects against Union Olimpija in final. Jan Rozman was immediatly taken by Union Olimpija.

    His biggest breakthrough was under former NT coach, who took Slovan in 2005/06
    http://www.adriaticbasket.info/w2/club.php?id=11&sez=05 ,
    Ales Pipan. That season Kodeljevo , Slovan hall, was poetry of great basketball. However, the board of the league wanted Bosna in the playoffs instead Geoplin Slovan and Slovan had minor rating at the referees in Adriatic league and didn't qualify for the playoffs. Dragic was given leading role of the team under Pipan. They also participated in slovenian regular league, where they were undefeated until final games with Olimpija. They lost final with 3-2 but people, that are working in basketball, think that finals in 2005/06 were setup for Olimpija to become stronger in future.

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    soon will be some more extended video

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