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  • #31
    Originally posted by Victorious View Post
    I'm talking about this Eurobasket. And the players you' ve mentioned belonged to winning teams of the Eurobasket. In any case, Saras, Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Pekovic, Batiste, Nicholas, Fotsis, Tepic, Tsartsaris coached by Obradovic would give the above teams a good run for their money. Gasol is the difference of these teams.
    Yep but is only money, nothing more nothing less.
    If tomorrow Niarxos wake up and makes a life changing decision to buy, lets say Panionios, within two years top, Panionios would win the Euroleague and by 2020 would be the biggest team ever in Europe playing in front of 20.000 people in every game.....No matter what, Turkey or Greece NT cant do that.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
      Call Turkoglu and Okur whatever you want. You can call them stars or very good role players, but they are definitely on a higher level than Fernandez, especially Turkoglu...
      of course okur and turkoglu higher level than fernandez they are really nba star,fernandez who knows him nba? yes in europa extrmely star but not still nba

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      • #33
        Originally posted by warface View Post
        of course okur and turkoglu higher level than fernandez they are really nba star,fernandez who knows him nba? yes in europa extrmely star but not still nba
        He holds the record for most made threepoints as rookie.

        Let's compare their stats in their 1st NBA season:

        Rudy: 25 mpg, 10.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2 apg
        Hedo:17 mpg, 5.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1 apg
        Okur: 19 mpg, 6.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1 apg

        We can clearly see that Okur and Hedo are much better. In fact, why does Rudy even play basketball? After watching Okur and Hedo playing he sohuld retire due to shame.

        But only in NBA, because in Eurobaskets they are his bitches

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ArkadiosV2 View Post
          He holds the record for most made threepoints as rookie.

          Let's compare their stats in their 1st NBA season:

          Rudy: 25 mpg, 10.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2 apg
          Hedo:17 mpg, 5.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1 apg
          Okur: 19 mpg, 6.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1 apg

          We can clearly see that Okur and Hedo are much better. In fact, why does Rudy even play basketball? After watching Okur and Hedo playing he sohuld retire due to shame.

          But only in NBA, because in Eurobaskets they are his bitches
          yes rudy can develop himself , he has potential really , who knows we will see next but itsnt easy up like them

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ArkadiosV2 View Post
            He holds the record for most made threepoints as rookie.

            Let's compare their stats in their 1st NBA season:

            Rudy: 25 mpg, 10.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2 apg
            Hedo:17 mpg, 5.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1 apg
            Okur: 19 mpg, 6.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1 apg

            We can clearly see that Okur and Hedo are much better. In fact, why does Rudy even play basketball? After watching Okur and Hedo playing he sohuld retire due to shame.

            But only in NBA, because in Eurobaskets they are his bitches

            What a comparison! Hedo was in NBA when he was 21 and Rudy when he was 23. Plus, even when Hedo was very young, you could see that he was extremely talented and unique. He could turn into a potential all-star and he is an all-star level player in NBA.
            But, from whatever aspect you look at Fernandez, you will see that he can be just a very good role player. He won't be anything more than that. He's just not talented enough.
            And if you looked at Okur when he was 23 or 24, you could see that he could be a very special player. He was giving that impression to others and he became an all-star.

            Fernandez can never be a go-to-guy for a NBA finalist team, but Hedo was. Ilyasova is more like Fernandez than Hedo or Okur. He will be a very good SF/PF, but he is just not going to be a creative, fundamentally sound player, just like Fernandez and unlike Hedo-Okur.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
              Hedo was in NBA when he was 21 and Rudy when he was 23. Plus, even when Hedo was very young, you could see that he was extremely talented and unique.
              what are you talking about, Turkoglu was a nobody when he came to the NBA. When Rudy left Europe he was already the best european shooting guard. And it took 5 years to Turkoglu to surpass what Rudy did in his first year.

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              • #37
                The Eurobasket did see some messy games but yet again these players do not spend whole seasons together as Euroleague players do. This would be an important factor when comparing these 2, as in Euroleague there is a greater chance for team chemistry to improve over the season whilst NT players need to quickly adjust and fill their rolls in Eurobasket.

                Therefore in my opinion Euroleague > Eurobasket.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Captain CAAAVEMAAAAANNN!! View Post
                  what are you talking about, Turkoglu was a nobody when he came to the NBA. When Rudy left Europe he was already the best european shooting guard. And it took 5 years to Turkoglu to surpass what Rudy did in his first year.

                  Ok. First of all, Turkoglu was playing for Sacremento. SG/SF/PF positions were full of experienced players, unlike Portland Blazers. That's why Hedo didn't play 30+ minutes there. Still though, on his second year, Hedo averaged 10.1pts, 4.5rebs, 2assts, when was just 22. And that happened in a title-contender team... Plus that happened in an era, where there wasn't many European players and many of them were just doing terrible in NBA except the likes of Stojakovic, Divac etc... Right now, it's easier to adapt to NBA and NBA has accepted the European players.


                  Plus, I don't think Rudy is anywhere near what Turkoglu has: fundamentally sound, extremely good ball-handler, can create his own shots, can shoot 3s well, giving size to a team when playing SG/SF. What does Rudy do other than shooting 3s and scoring on fast breaks? Sorry but Rudy dribbles the ball like freaking Ömer Onan, as if somebody is chasing him every single second

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                  • #39
                    You either never watched the guys play or you are just writing random absurdity to get on my nerves.

                    Plus, I don't think Turkoglu is anywhere near what Rudy has: fundamentally sound, extremely good ball-handler, can create his own shots, can shoot 3s well. What does Turkoglu do other than shooting 3s? Sorry but Tukoglu dribbles the ball like freaking Ömer Onan, as if somebody is chasing him every single second
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                    • #40
                      Son_of_a Turk is right though.I hadn't noticed before how poor of a ballhandler Rudy is.Most of the times he tried to put the ball on the floor it led to mistakes.Explains why he's mostly a 3 point shooter in NBA.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
                        Son_of_a Turk is right though.I hadn't noticed before how poor of a ballhandler Rudy is.Most of the times he tried to put the ball on the floor it led to mistakes.Explains why he's mostly a 3 point shooter in NBA.
                        If by mistake you mean dunk, then you are right. Tukoglu, on the other hand averaged almost 3 turnovers per game and that includes very low intensity games like the battle for the 7th place.

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                        • #42
                          Please, dont try to compare rudy with turkoglu and Okur. Turkoglu and Okur are all-star caliber players. Fernandez is a good player, he is still young (25) but he will never be an all-star player in the NBA. He can shoot, he is a very good scorer, he can jump and dunk the ball, but he is not as talented as Hedo or Okur.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Point_Guard View Post
                            Please, dont try to compare rudy with turkoglu and Okur. Turkoglu and Okur are all-star caliber players. Fernandez is a good player, he is still young (25) but he will never be an all-star player in the NBA. He can shoot, he is a very good scorer, he can jump and dunk the ball, but he is not as talented as Hedo or Okur.
                            Absolutelly true.
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                            It was not a ref mistake, it was a ref decision.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Point_Guard View Post
                              Please, dont try to compare rudy with turkoglu and Okur. Turkoglu and Okur are all-star caliber players. Fernandez is a good player, he is still young (25) but he will never be an all-star player in the NBA. He can shoot, he is a very good scorer, he can jump and dunk the ball, but he is not as talented as Hedo or Okur.
                              right

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                              • #45
                                Okur is by no means all-star caliber player, and Turkoglu so so.

                                I agree that Rudy is not a good ballhandler though, specially with his left hand he can barely bounce it twice in a row, that's his biggest flaw.
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                                You are a troll.

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