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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
    That picture is deceiving and misleading my friend. Sergio Llull is 1.90 and he wanted to lay that over Semih Erden(2.13), Ímer Aşık(2.12) and Ersan Ilyasova(2.08). Ímer had a clear block and if the refs called that foul, that would be huge injustice against Turkey.
    Totally deceiving and misleading , i am blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
    That picture is deceiving and misleading my friend. Sergio Llull is 1.90 and he wanted to lay that over Semih Erden(2.13), Ímer Aşık(2.12) and Ersan Ilyasova(2.08). Ímer had a clear block and if the refs called that foul, that would be huge injustice against Turkey.
    You are the only one misled, I guess. The foul by Erden is more than obvious.

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    That picture is really misleading my friends. But, even if Semih Erden grabbed Llull's hand, if you are 1.90 and you are running into 3 guys who are 2.08m or taller for a game-winning shot, you can not expect a damn call. That's what's normal. Calling that foul would be so absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
    That picture is really misleading my friends. But, even if Semih Erden grabbed Llull's hand, if you are 1.90 and you are running into 3 guys who are 2.08m or taller for a game-winning shot, you can not expect a damn call. That's what's normal. Calling that foul would be so absurd.
    What??? If one foul is foul you have to call it. The tall of a player has nothing to do with it. Or, why dont we add the jump to the tall? Llull can dunk over very tall centers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by achinet View Post
    What??? If one foul is foul you have to call it. The tall of a player has nothing to do with it. Or, why sum the jump to the tall? Llull can dunk over very tall centers.

    If we are talking about protection in this thread, we are also talking about some common-sense rules, which are actually not legal. This might be one of them. But this doesn't mean Turkey was protected, this means Spain was not protected that time.

    But I still think, that picture is misleading and that was not a foul.


    That's my two cents.

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    Hmmm... I think this goes well off the topic.

    I didn't mean if referees do mistakes. Sure they do, they are human beings.

    My question is whether or not they willingly favor the stars.
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    You really know basket well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysh View Post
    Hmmm... I think this goes well off the topic.

    I didn't mean if referees do mistakes. Sure they do, they are human beings.

    My question is whether or not they willingly favor the stars.


    Yes ofcourse, both in NBA and in Europe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
    Yes ofcourse, both in NBA and in Europe...
    That's what I also think. Thanks
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    You really know basket well...
    Thanks ozziem.

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    Mysh, I think that's what happens in any sport. It's human psychology. Star players just have that heavy-weight. It can be on referees, coaches, other players etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysh View Post
    Hmmm... I think this goes well off the topic.

    I didn't mean if referees do mistakes. Sure they do, they are human beings.

    My question is whether or not they willingly favor the stars.
    Sure, that is why the ref did not call that Llull fautl. if he were Navarro, the ref sure would call it

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    Quote Originally Posted by achinet View Post
    Sure, that is why the ref did not call that Llull fautl. if he were Navarro, the ref sure would call it

    hahaha still talking about the foul

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
    hahaha still talking about the foul
    Yes, but on topic

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    YES they do..

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    Yes, they do. You can not block Pau Gasol, you always get a foul. Don't get me wrong, Pau is a great player, surely the MVP of the tournament, but the way he's treated is somewhat different from the "regular" big men. The same goes probably for some other players, or entire teams maybe.

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    Usually yes, but also is true that star players usually run most plays than any other, so they have more chances to get faults called.

    As for that play in the game against Turkey, it was obviously fault, but sometimes the refs make mistakes, and being the last play of the game made even more difficult to say fault there.

    What I hate is when both teams are treated differently by the refs. As long as they treat both teams the same I don't worry.

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    reffs protect whoever FIBA tells them to

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    Quote Originally Posted by achinet View Post
    Sure, that is why the ref did not call that Llull fautl. if he were Navarro, the ref sure would call it
    there is NO WAY in this world Navarro taking Llull's place in this photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by achinet View Post
    Jajajaja, man he is deffending hard. Only that. He is good deffender, here and in his club
    Yes, but two years ago you called the greeks boxers and that the spaniards had to flop a little to equalize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by son_of_a_Turk View Post
    That picture is really misleading my friends. But, even if Semih Erden grabbed Llull's hand, if you are 1.90 and you are running into 3 guys who are 2.08m or taller for a game-winning shot, you can not expect a damn call. That's what's normal. Calling that foul would be so absurd.
    Hahaha the guy just embarassed himself in front of Hundreds of posters here..lol

    His excuses do not even make any sense...blah blah..haha

    Mate just say.."ok my mistake it is obvious a foul" and get over it.

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    Yes, no doubt! As Gasol said after the game against Turkey: "If was another player (a star player, such as Navarro or Rudy) driving to the basket instead of Llull, the ref would blow..."
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