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    Spain dominated the boards and at 1st half eveything went really well. Spain's defense was good with Teodosic (Ricky and Llull were key players in this championship), as it was with Parker and Spanoulis, and Gasol was a dominant player in the paint. A deserved MVP!
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    Mark thats a stupid question the Serb team would have won with ease Spain started winning titles when those boys retired or stopped playing for NT. No disrespect to Spain but they won allot since that generation stopped playing.

    I hope Spain can bring in some young talent to go with Riky. I believe the new generation of European Stars will be amazing, allot of talent on show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milic17 View Post
    Mark thats a stupid question the Serb team would have won with ease Spain started winning titles when those boys retired or stopped playing for NT. No disrespect to Spain but they won allot since that generation stopped playing.

    I hope Spain can bring in some young talent to go with Riky. I believe the new generation of European Stars will be amazing, allot of talent on show.
    I absolutelly agree with u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fasoulaki View Post
    I heard some complains from Serbs which were present in the final that the greek fans in the hall were cheering for Spain instead for Serbia!

    Is this true?
    My family and friends were in,and they and all greeks were supporting the serbs.I don't know if it was some exceptions ofcourse.Most possibly there were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkadiosV2 View Post
    That is because I was not posting here in 2005 and 2008. I would say the same.

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    Weren't you the same that laughed hard at F.Y.R. Macedonia when they were defeated by 32 and the same who even made an avatar about it? Why that compassion for Spain or Serbia and not for other countries?

    On the other hand, we need to tell Spain NT to win +15 all games, then nobody can complain that they won thanks to the referees or they were arrogant and wanted to humilliate the other team. Btw, what happens when Spain or Greece win +50 against some countries from Africa or Asia in World Championships? No mercy on Japan, for example?

    All teams have to play their best game unless you're +30 with 4 minutes left... anyway there will be always something wrong with Spain NT.. i'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klakis View Post
    by the way.........
    THERE IS NO GREEK LOBBY!!!!!!!!!!!
    man this trophy is as old-fashioned as vasilakopoulos himself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark123 View Post
    This Spanish team against Divac
    ,Stojakovic,Savic,Rebraca,Djordjevic,Danilovic,Bod iroga,Jaric,Vujanic,Beric,Koturovic ?

    Who would have won ?
    Hiii ! Spain already beated a similar team in 2002. This was the roster of Yugoslavia, since that day, Yugoslavia couldnt beat the spanish team in any of the next competitions.

    - SMILJANIC, Aleksandar 1,96 26 Buducnost B
    - VUJANIC, Milos 1,90 22 Partizan B
    - JARIC, Marko 1,98 24 Kinder Bolonia B
    - RAKOCEVIC, Igor 1,91 24 Buducnost B/E
    - BODIROGA, Dejan 2,04 29 Panathinaikos E/A
    - STOJAKOVIC, Predrag 2,07 24 Sacramento Kings E/A
    - GUROVIC, Milan 2,07 27 Unicaja A
    - RADMANOVIC, Vladimir 2,08 22 Seattle Supersonics A/A-P
    - CABARKAPA, Zarko 2,10 21 Buducnost A-P
    - DROBNJAK, Predrag 2,11 27 Seattle Supersonics A-P/P
    - DIVAC, Vlade 2,13 24 Sacramento Kings P
    - TOMASEVIC, Dejan 2,05 29 Tau P
    - KURUROVIC, Dejan 2,12 30 Alba Berlín P

    The situation is kinda similar between this new Serbian NT and the spanish team in 2002. In Spain the starters were Calderon ( 21 years old ) Navarro ( 22 ) Gasol ( 22 ) Garbajosa ( 25 ) and Jimenez ( 25 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useless View Post
    Hiii ! Spain already beated a similar team in 2002. This was the roster of Yugoslavia, since that day, Yugoslavia couldnt beat the spanish team in any of the next competitions.

    - SMILJANIC, Aleksandar 1,96 26 Buducnost B
    - VUJANIC, Milos 1,90 22 Partizan B
    - JARIC, Marko 1,98 24 Kinder Bolonia B
    - RAKOCEVIC, Igor 1,91 24 Buducnost B/E
    - BODIROGA, Dejan 2,04 29 Panathinaikos E/A
    - STOJAKOVIC, Predrag 2,07 24 Sacramento Kings E/A
    - GUROVIC, Milan 2,07 27 Unicaja A
    - RADMANOVIC, Vladimir 2,08 22 Seattle Supersonics A/A-P
    - CABARKAPA, Zarko 2,10 21 Buducnost A-P
    - DROBNJAK, Predrag 2,11 27 Seattle Supersonics A-P/P
    - DIVAC, Vlade 2,13 24 Sacramento Kings P
    - TOMASEVIC, Dejan 2,05 29 Tau P
    - KURUROVIC, Dejan 2,12 30 Alba Berlín P

    The situation is kinda similar between this new Serbian NT and the spanish team in 2002. In Spain the starters were Calderon ( 21 years old ) Navarro ( 22 ) Gasol ( 22 ) Garbajosa ( 25 ) and Jimenez ( 25 )
    so maybe the history will repeat itself again??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useless View Post
    Hiii ! Spain already beated a similar team in 2002. This was the roster of Yugoslavia, since that day, Yugoslavia couldnt beat the spanish team in any of the next competitions.

    - SMILJANIC, Aleksandar 1,96 26 Buducnost B
    - VUJANIC, Milos 1,90 22 Partizan B
    - JARIC, Marko 1,98 24 Kinder Bolonia B
    - RAKOCEVIC, Igor 1,91 24 Buducnost B/E
    - BODIROGA, Dejan 2,04 29 Panathinaikos E/A
    - STOJAKOVIC, Predrag 2,07 24 Sacramento Kings E/A
    - GUROVIC, Milan 2,07 27 Unicaja A
    - RADMANOVIC, Vladimir 2,08 22 Seattle Supersonics A/A-P
    - CABARKAPA, Zarko 2,10 21 Buducnost A-P
    - DROBNJAK, Predrag 2,11 27 Seattle Supersonics A-P/P
    - DIVAC, Vlade 2,13 24 Sacramento Kings P
    - TOMASEVIC, Dejan 2,05 29 Tau P
    - KURUROVIC, Dejan 2,12 30 Alba Berlín P

    The situation is kinda similar between this new Serbian NT and the spanish team in 2002. In Spain the starters were Calderon ( 21 years old ) Navarro ( 22 ) Gasol ( 22 ) Garbajosa ( 25 ) and Jimenez ( 25 )
    Do u see the names of Aleksandar Djordjevic or Danilovic or Savic on that roster ? Is that the championship we became the world champions in Atlanta USA ? U were ahhhh.... 6th ? We did beat u after that : http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid...mID_96799.html
    Savic could put Gasol into his pocket so u wouldnt even know that he is on the court. BTW ask Pau how many times he has lost to Serbia (Yugoslavia,SCG) !

    DIVAC, Vlade 2,13 24 ?! Sacramento Kings P ???!!! 24 ??? U meen 34 ! back in 2002.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseus1966 View Post
    Spain is the best team ,how can the same players fail continuously in Euroleage its a mystery...
    Not such a mystery. Spanish teams usually arrive to F4, but then money talks. CSKA, Panathinaikos, Maccabi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark123 View Post
    Do u see the names of Aleksandar Djordjevic or Danilovic or Savic on that roster ? Is that the championship we became the world champions in Atlanta USA ? U were ahhhh.... 6th ? We did beat u after that : http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid...mID_96799.html
    Savic could put Gasol into his pocket so u wouldnt even know that he is on the court. BTW ask Pau how many times he has lost to Serbia (Yugoslavia,SCG) !

    DIVAC, Vlade 2,13 24 ?! Sacramento Kings P ???!!! 24 ??? U meen 34 ! back in 2002.
    If I´m not wrong Spain, in Gasol era, has played 12 times vs Serbia, 10 wins and only 2 losses, is a good balance i think

    1- Estambul (Turquía) 06-09-2001 Campeonato de Europa (Semifinal) 65 - 78 SERBIA WIN
    2- Indianápolis (USA) 30-08-2002 XIV Campeonato del Mundo 71 - 69 SPAIN WIN
    3- Sodertalje (Suecia) 07-09-2003 Campeonato de Europa (Ronda preliminar) 75 - 67 SPAIN WIN
    4- Palma de Mallorca (España) 24-07-2004 Amistoso 83 - 78 SPAIN WIN
    5- Granada (España) 27-07-2004 Amistoso 76 - 60 SPAIN WIN
    6- Atenas (Grecia) 21-08-2004 XXVIII Juegos Olímpicos 76 - 68 SPAIN WIN
    7- Novi Sad (Serbia Mont.) 16-09-2005 XXXIV Campeonato de Europa 89 - 70 SPAIN WIN
    8- Alicante (España) 31-07-2006 Amistoso 83 - 62 SPAIN WIN
    9- Singapur 12-08-2006 Amistoso 80 - 65 SPAIN WIN
    10- Saitama (Japón) 26-08-2006 XV Campeonato del Mundo 87 - 75 SPAIN WIN
    11- Varsovia (Polonia) 07-09-2009 XXXVI Campeonato de Europa 66 - 57 SERBIA WIN
    12- Katowice (Polonia) 20-09-2009 XXXVI Campeonato de Europa 84 - 62 SPAIN WIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariscada View Post
    If I´m not wrong Spain, in Gasol era, has played 12 times vs Serbia, 10 wins and only 2 losses, is a good balance i think

    1- Estambul (Turquía) 06-09-2001 Campeonato de Europa (Semifinal) 65 - 78 SERBIA WIN
    2- Indianápolis (USA) 30-08-2002 XIV Campeonato del Mundo 71 - 69 SPAIN WIN
    3- Sodertalje (Suecia) 07-09-2003 Campeonato de Europa (Ronda preliminar) 75 - 67 SPAIN WIN
    4- Palma de Mallorca (España) 24-07-2004 Amistoso 83 - 78 SPAIN WIN
    5- Granada (España) 27-07-2004 Amistoso 76 - 60 SPAIN WIN
    6- Atenas (Grecia) 21-08-2004 XXVIII Juegos Olímpicos 76 - 68 SPAIN WIN
    7- Novi Sad (Serbia Mont.) 16-09-2005 XXXIV Campeonato de Europa 89 - 70 SPAIN WIN
    8- Alicante (España) 31-07-2006 Amistoso 83 - 62 SPAIN WIN
    9- Singapur 12-08-2006 Amistoso 80 - 65 SPAIN WIN
    10- Saitama (Japón) 26-08-2006 XV Campeonato del Mundo 87 - 75 SPAIN WIN
    11- Varsovia (Polonia) 07-09-2009 XXXVI Campeonato de Europa 66 - 57 SERBIA WIN
    12- Katowice (Polonia) 20-09-2009 XXXVI Campeonato de Europa 84 - 62 SPAIN WIN
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark123 View Post
    Do u see the names of Aleksandar Djordjevic or Danilovic or Savic on that roster ? Is that the championship we became the world champions in Atlanta USA ? U were ahhhh.... 6th ? We did beat u after that : http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid...mID_96799.html
    Savic could put Gasol into his pocket so u wouldnt even know that he is on the court. BTW ask Pau how many times he has lost to Serbia (Yugoslavia,SCG) !

    DIVAC, Vlade 2,13 24 ?! Sacramento Kings P ???!!! 24 ??? U meen 34 ! back in 2002.
    It was in Indiana. Spain was the 5th. I just copied the roster from a website. did you watch that final? maybe someone else more objective could say something about the refs.

    So easy to talk. First of all, i said, Spain beated a similarSCG team with an almost junior team, isnt it true?

    Savic? come on man, are you talking about Zoran Savic stopping Gasol? I think Gasol has faced WAY better centers than him. Savic was undersized and what you said about putting Pau in his pocket was just the typical arrogantic speech from some serbian people, just like Divac said in the pre-game in 2002 that Spain couldnt beat them even with 12 gasol in the court, and surprise surprise they lost

    Pau? losing against Serbia? not many for sure. Pau´s generation was totally dominant in Europe, and they became "dominant" at senior ages too, just think about the last ten years and what Spain achieved. Maybe you should ask your guys how many times they lost against Spain the last decade

    Let´s be more objective and less fanatic, both teams are great i just wanted to point out that there were some similarities between those the spanish team in 2002 and the serbian team in 2009

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    the refs did help SCG in the finals in Indiana.It was a foul that Divac made at the end of the game.Gasol never faced better center then Savic except Shaq.Gasol is great player but he is surely NOT the best center in the world. I am just sorry our guys didnt have more time to rest after semi,it would have been a different game believe me.If u were so good in Indiana then why didnt u win the gold ?! How many NTs beat u there ? 3-4 ? Im really sorry u didnt play in the finals there,I really wonder would u have beaten our team then ?! Dont think so. U beat us in a meaningless preliminary game (by one basket only).Till we meet again. Hold on to Gasol,without him u r nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark123 View Post
    Hold on to Gasol,without him u r nothing.
    The same with Serbia. Without Gasol, they are nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark123 View Post
    the refs did help SCG in the finals in Indiana.It was a foul that Divac made at the end of the game.Gasol never faced better center then Savic except Shaq.Gasol is great player but he is surely NOT the best center in the world. I am just sorry our guys didnt have more time to rest after semi,it would have been a different game believe me.If u were so good in Indiana then why didnt u win the gold ?! How many NTs beat u there ? 3-4 ? Im really sorry u didnt play in the finals there,I really wonder would u have beaten our team then ?! Dont think so. U beat us in a meaningless preliminary game (by one basket only).Till we meet again. Hold on to Gasol,without him u r nothing.
    Did i say that Gasol is the best center in the world ?

    Dude, are you serious? You must be kidding me ! Isnt Dwight Howard, Robinson, Mutombo, Yao Ming... way better than Savic? so for you Savic is the second best center in the last 20 years, just Shaq is a better center, dude, nice joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useless View Post
    Did i say that Gasol is the best center in the world ?

    Dude, are you serious? You must be kidding me ! Isnt Dwight Howard, Robinson, Mutombo, Yao Ming... way better than Savic? so for you Savic is the second best center in the last 20 years, just Shaq is a better center, dude, nice joke
    Savic is not the best center Pau has ever played against,but when it comes to defense he was much stronger than Pau so he could easily guard him without committing fouls.Savic may as well be the best defensive center Pau has ever matched.
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