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    tell you what ?
    your knowledge is very limited.
    In fact naturalizing players started very late in Asia,some of you are really not knowledgeable enough to discuss this issues.
    First of all,Russia (great league with good basketball culture) naturalized holden an American to represent their NT.
    Second,Belgium naturalized Mbenga to represent their NT as well.
    Bulgaria naturalized before Priest Lauderdale then he did not play for money issues.

    etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jos View Post
    I just had to register so i can reply to you.

    I have some questions :

    1. Why are you taking it so personally ? Its just a game.

    2. Would it do you in good to post here ? You should file an official complaint to FIBA... By posting here you will only flame the thread and it wont lead nowhere.

    3. Did Lebanon crush your NT ? thats why you are so angry ?

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    Don't worry man, they're just releasing some anger.
    No other way to do it sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    And as far as I care Holden was living in Russia at the time he was naturalized. You bring players from no where and call them lebanese.
    first be civil and don't post bull shits ok if lebanese ppl are dirty well thats ur opinion and i don't care bout it, second vogel lived in lebanon for 7 years any way just cut that crap , we got ur point so plz just stop it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniab View Post
    tell you what ?
    your knowledge is very limited.
    In fact naturalizing players started very late in Asia,some of you are really not knowledgeable enough to discuss this issues.
    First of all,Russia (great league with good basketball culture) naturalized holden an American to represent their NT.
    Second,Belgium naturalized Mbenga to represent their NT as well.
    Bulgaria naturalized before Priest Lauderdale then he did not play for money issues.

    etc....
    Holden lived and played in Russia when he was naturalized...

    And Mbenga,

    "Mbenga was born in and raised in Zaire, now known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where his father was a government employee.[2] When a new regime took over power, it sought everyone who worked for the previous leader.[2] As unrest in the country escalated, Mbenga's father was imprisoned.[2] Although he was eventually unable to save himself, he did manage to negotiate on behalf of his sons, who were also imprisoned and waiting to be executed. Mbenga fled the country on a plane to Belgium, where he received asylum.[2] While living in a refugee center, he was discovered by Belgian basketball legend Willy Steveniers, who eventually served as Mbenga's personal basketball mentor.[3]"- Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    No, actually my national tema (Iran) took your place in the 2008 Olympics.
    Ah so you are afraid...
    got my answer...
    Dont worry, we will take it easy on Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jos View Post
    Ah so you are afraid...
    got my answer...
    Dont worry, we will take it easy on Iran.
    Just how you took it "easy" on Iran when be punked you guys and qualified for Olympics when we later watched you guys get slapped around by the greeks and brazilians.. Even with you buying players from other countries you can't do crap against the better teams in Europe. We at least play fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    Holden lived and played in Russia when he was naturalized...

    And Mbenga,

    "Mbenga was born in and raised in Zaire, now known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where his father was a government employee.[2] When a new regime took over power, it sought everyone who worked for the previous leader.[2] As unrest in the country escalated, Mbenga's father was imprisoned.[2] Although he was eventually unable to save himself, he did manage to negotiate on behalf of his sons, who were also imprisoned and waiting to be executed. Mbenga fled the country on a plane to Belgium, where he received asylum.[2] While living in a refugee center, he was discovered by Belgian basketball legend Willy Steveniers, who eventually served as Mbenga's personal basketball mentor.[3]"- Wikipedia
    so living for few years somewhere would make you a countrymen ?
    Thats how you understand naturalization ?
    Holden is American,living for few years there dont make him Russian for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniab View Post
    so living for few years somewhere would make you a countrymen ?
    Thats how you understand naturalization ?
    Holden is American,living for few years theres doesnt make him Russian for sure!
    It's a big freaking difference coming to a country as a refugee and starting your basketball-career in the new country than buying already established players like Lebanon is doing. How many days did Vroman and Vogel spend in Lebanon before they got naturalized.

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    guys leave him alone,don't reply..

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    Quote Originally Posted by capcha View Post
    guys leave him alone,don't reply..
    You better change that avatar of yours after the asskicking you're gonna get in the semi's or in the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    It's a big freaking difference coming to a country as a refugee and starting your basketball-career in the new country than buying already established players like Lebanon is doing. How many days did Vroman and Vogel spend in Lebanon before they got naturalized.
    You dont really know who is Vogel!
    Vogel refused to leave when Lebanon was under the Israeli seige and he kept playing for the team even with all the obstacles the team faced to leave to World cup.

    Fiba rules do not insist that a player must live there for a while,naturalizing is naturalizing either he lived there for 10 years or 1 month!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniab View Post
    You dont know really who is Vogel?
    Vogel refused to leave when Lebanon was under the Israeli seige and he kept playing for the team even with all the obstacles the team faced to leave to World cup.

    Fiba rules do not insist that a player must live there for a while,naturalizing is naturalizing either he lived there for 10 years or 1 month!
    Wow, that brought me to tears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    Wow, that brought me to tears!
    for sure,you are very brave in creating your victories and threats
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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    Wow, that brought me to tears!
    Germany: Cris Kaman
    Russia : Jon Holden
    USA : Hakeem Olajuwon, Rony Seikaly...
    Argentina: Manu Genobili
    and muchh more...


    My friend, don't start a topic unless u r really sure about ur info!!!
    I AM LEBANESE!!!

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    This thread is epic. Let's never let it die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElArZ View Post
    This thread is epic. Let's never let it die.

    Persian epic


    wahahahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by olajuwon View Post
    Wow, that brought me to tears!
    i think that those tears brought u the iranian nationality,child

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWAD View Post
    Germany: Cris Kaman
    Russia : Jon Holden
    USA : Hakeem Olajuwon, Rony Seikaly...
    Argentina: Manu Genobili
    and muchh more...


    My friend, don't start a topic unless u r really sure about ur info!!!
    Chris Kaman: Kaman is a dual citizen; he is a citizen of the United States and of Germany. His great-grandparents were German, so he acquired German citizenship in July to play on the German basketball team in the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

    USA: Hakeem Olajuwon moved to USA when he was 17 and started to play basketball there for real and he was naturalized after living in USA for 13 years. Rony Seikaly was also living in the States when he was naturalized.

    Argentina: Manu is argentinian edited
    Last edited by Jan van Grabski; 08-14-2009 at 12:38 PM.

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    u know olajuwon, i will only tell u this

    usually people make excuses after loosing the game, but ur the 1st one i see making excuses before the game even starts :P
    oh, or maybe ur certain of the loss of ur team, so there i really cant argue, u'd have outsmarted us all lebanese there
    anyways my lebanese friends lets not even bother replying to him, we're to superior as educated lebanese people to even look and even consider the likes of him ??
    do u answer a barking dog ??? of course not, u'd be a dog doing so

    thanks and good day.

    The lebanese will always prevail.

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    guys please no need to use insults and personal attacks.
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