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    Cibona has a depleted roster right now as they are trying to save money. The two biggest off season signings are Jamont Gordon and Antonio Graves. Both are scoring guards who are coming off good seasons in the Italian League and Turkish League. The key to the success for both of them and maybe the team is how well they will play together. Graves may handle more of the point guard duties but both players will be looking to score and they will have to work together to make a successful backcourt. This is a step in the right direction for Cibona getting young guards who have talent and can improve.

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    With head coach Velimir Perasovic back to lead the charge and this 2 new players Cibona is ready to keep working in the right direction for more success in the 2009-10 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antimon View Post
    With head coach Velimir Perasovic back to lead the charge and this 2 new players Cibona is ready to keep working in the right direction for more success in the 2009-10 season.
    cibona is in wrong direction for years always changing half team each year singing so coled 1+1 contract with unpruved americans and veterans. that is cibona without smell and taste and i'm sick of it. so far this year young roster promise some change and if they could sing tomic and tomas as they pland it may not be the best but most iteresting cibona to folow in like 2 decades and i hope that at least like 9 to 10 will be here fot at least 2, 3 or more yers
    Jordi Bertomeu sucks!

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    What's goin' on in Cibona recently? There're news that club has huge financial problems, players don't get their salaries for a few months, club director left the club. It's really sad to read such news about such club. That reminds me of Zalgiris exactly 1 year ago. Is situation really that bad, are there any brightness ahead of Cibona?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    What's goin' on in Cibona recently? There're news that club has huge financial problems, players don't get their salaries for a few months, club director left the club. It's really sad to read such news about such club. That reminds me of Zalgiris exactly 1 year ago. Is situation really that bad, are there any brightness ahead of Cibona?
    Cibona players salaries is not late for few mouths, actualy some Croatian players didn't get all mony for few years. Cibona now ex director (or dictator as better term) robbed Cibona for years. After shamable season 2007./08. Zagreb city major put his vice city major Ivo Jelusic in Cibona and it was agreed that director won't have all authority in decision making and for first time Bozo had to make financial report to club board...Few weaks before Boze resinged and open vication for first time in 20 years. So far he hasn't show up with finacial report whille his resignation was acepted by club board in recent days. Anway Croatia is hiten with big finaciall chrises and besides few clubs most of Croatian sports clubs are not privatized and is under citiy and country so Cibona is not just having problems to get sponsors money, they also have problems as we say "suck city and countrie founds" (Ironicley Zagreb invested quite big money in hockey club Medveščak and as you all know that hocky is most traditionall Croatian sport and of course as always giving lot of money to medicore football club Dinamo ). Another prublem to "suck city money" is worsen relationship betwen city major and vice mayor as presedent capagine is coming close so natrualy relathionship betwen polticians are boiling Anway sitation is bad and so far there are not sings of light at end of tunel.

    On bright side Bože is finaly out of club and Croatian basketball and his fingers togheter with CBB president and manager mafia sistematicly helped to downgrade our basketball. Also this could force club to turn to policy like Partizan and invest more money in youth programs and young players rather than "instant" policy of bringing mostley unpruved Americans and veterans
    Jordi Bertomeu sucks!

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    Cibona, a great one in trouble
    POSTED BY Vladimir Stankovic - Euroleague.net
    DATE: Saturday, November 13, 2010

    At first sight, dedicating a blog entry to a team that starts 0-4 wouldn't seem logical. Normally, the space in the media is for the champions, the winners, the records, the trophies and the stars. When we talk about Cibona today, we forget about all that. There are no wins, no records (save for negative ones) and no stars. There are only problems: sports problems and economic problems, and the past. A great past, filled with titles and stars. Everything that is missing not only today but the last few years. For starters, here's a curiosity: Cibona is the ONLY club that has played in all the editions of the Euroleague since the 1991-92 season.

    Two decades in the elite

    FIBA created its "Champions League" one year before UEFA, with as many as three representatives from the countries with the best basketball. In that first edition, Cibona still represented Yugoslavia together with Partzan Belgrade and Slobodna Dalmacija Split (the former Jugoplastika), who qualified through the Yugoslav League. Because of the war, all three played in Spain for their home games: Cibona played in Puerto Real, Slobodna in A Coruńa and Partizan in Fuenlabrada. Cibona ended up with 11 wins and 7 losses and in the quarterfinals it lost both games to Joventut Badalona, who advanced to the Istanbul Final Four. Since then, until last Thursday, during its 20 consecutive years in the Euroleague, Cibona has played 329 games at the Euroleague level, winning 154 and losing 175. Of course, the global balance is negative. There are no Final Four appearances, either. But Cibona is in the Euroleague year after year and it is a name uttered with respect everywhere in the basketball world.

    History of the name

    The name... does anybody know why is the club called Cibona and what does it mean? Here is the story. In 1975, the name Cibona appeared for the first time in the Yugoslav League, substituting Lokomotiva after 25 years of giving its name to a sports society with several sections. The club was born in 1946 under the name Sloboda ("freedom"), but that was only until 1950. Starting then, the name changed several times: SD Zagreb, Vihor, Polet... but in 1950 it changed to Lokomotiva. The club entered the Yugoslav first division in 1951 and there it remained except for the years 1952 and 1960. In 1975, the basketball club stepped away from the Lokomotiva society and established itself with the new name, Cibona, which is a combination for two Latin words, "cibos" and "bonus", which could roughly translate to "good food", because backing the club was a strong consortium of Croatian food companies. That's how Cibona was born. However, the first title arrived under the old Lokomotiva name. For the 1971-72 season, FIBA started a third cup - after the Champions Cup (since 1958) and the Cup Winners Cup (since 1967) - called Korac Cup. FIBA needed this third cup to give the chance of playing international competitions to more clubs. The name of the cup was a tribute to the legendary Yugoslav player Radivoj Korac, who was best scorer several times in Europe and still holds the 99-point record in one game of the Champions Cup. Korac had died on June 2, 1969 after a car crash near Sarajevo in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

    "Saint Nikola"

    There were eight teams from five countries in the new Korac Cup: two from Spain, two from France, two from Yugoslavia and one each from Germany and Belgium. The two Yugoslav teams met in the final game: OKK Belgrade, Korac's long-time team before playing in Italy (with Padova) and Belgium (with Standard), and Lokomotiva Zagreb. In Belgrade, OKK won by 83-71 but in the second game, played on March 7, 1972, in the small arena of the Tresnjevka neighborhood, Lokomotiva won by 94-73 and lifted the first trophy. Nikola Plecas, the big star of Lokomotiva, scored 29 points in Belgrade and 40 points in the second game. Plecas, usually called "Saint Nikola" by the fans, was the first basketball star in Zagreb. His popularity was off the charts, only matching his scoring skills. He was a world champ with Yugoslavia in 1970 and the true locomotive in Lokomotiva as he could score as many as 70 points in league games... without three-pointers, of course.

    Novosel, Cosic, Petrovic

    The rise of Cibona started with the arrival of Mirko Novosel, a former player of the club in the 1950s and 1960s. After his glory days as Yugoslav national team head coach (two European titles in 1973 and 1975, world runner-up in 1974 and Olympic runner-up in 1976), Novosel started to build a great Cibona. It was hard, but he succeeded. Two of his signings were the key. In 1980, he convinced legendary center Kresimir Cosic, who was 32 then, to put an end to his brilliant career in Cibona. The first titles arrived two years later. First, on March 16, 1982, Cibona defeated Real Madrid in Brussels by a close 96-95 after overtime, with regulation ending 88-88,to lift the Cup Winners Cup. Only five players scored in that Cibona team however: Aleksandar Petrovic (22), Damir Pavlicevic (12), Mihovil Nakic (6), Andro Knego (34) and Kreso Cosic (22). Three more players went scoreless: Zoran Cutura, Adnan Becic and Rajko Gospodnetic. A few months later, the first Yugoslav league title arrived. In 1984, Novosel managed to sing a young star, Drazen Petrovic, who was only 20 by then and was the younger brother of Aleksandar. By 1987, Cibona had won 14 titles including back-to-back Euroleague titles against Real Madrid in 1985 and Zalgiris in 1986. It was a golden decade for Cibona, making it one of the only six clubs that managed to win all three European competitions.

    New talent

    Nowadays, Knego (general manager), Nakic (sports director) and Novosel (consultant after 14 years of absence) are together again in a very difficult moment for the club. With a big debt and a young roster, Cibona simply cannot compete with its richer, more experienced rivals. However, Cibona has what it never lost: talent. Leon Radosevic (center, 207), Tomislav Zupcic (center, 208) and Mario Delas (forward, 207) were born in 1990. Bojan Bogdanovic (guard, 200) and Karlo Vragovic (guard, 192) were born in 1989. The first four players of this list are diamonds in the rough that only need time to show their true potential. A couple of experienced players would also come in handy for the decisive moments in games. Cibona has started at 0-4 but has also lost all the games in the final minutes, something not unusual for a young team that is growing game after game. If they manage to survive this tough year, even without titles, and do not sell the talent before it gives something back to the club, Cibona will be a big name again in Europe for sure. And the city of Zagreb should also find a way to help one of its best-known brands.
    IMO, the bolded part could be translated as:
    "Even if you screw up and don't qualify for Euroleague, a wild-card is waiting. But you have to meet us half way. Sort at least some of your problems (get some money or a competitive roster)."
    "One more thing, if any admin delit this topic than the next time you will hear from me will not be on this forum but in a court of law with human right crimes on your shoulders, racism, nazism, breaking international law."

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    don't remember where I've heard it or if the source was legitimate... but in case Cibona is really 8 millions in debt... ouch.
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    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joško Poljak Fan View Post
    don't remember where I've heard it or if the source was legitimate... but in case Cibona is really 8 millions in debt... ouch.
    about it

    anway cibona is now into political and menager's dirty games

    cibona has property (nekretnine...don't know english word....rented places like bars, stors etc.) bit biger then debth. minister of police Karamarko is vice president of KK Zagreb wich enterd in Cibona arena this year and is trying to reach euroleague, whille presidet of club Jelavic is in some city board that tahe care of "nekretnine". Cibona had few contacts with sponsors, but non is willing to invest in club untill they get rid of debt. Club board is willing to sell thier property, but city and city major Bandic is ofering to take care of their debth in "Zagrebacka banka" wich is credit of about 3mil. euros. The usuall sponsors of club, citiy and state firms have bean pointed to other adress KK Zagreb.....no more words

    on other side XL agency pointed their coach Radulovic into club and practicley give them some players in return for promotion and small money + pointing 3 of brightest club prospects to theh...kind of they saved club....but fuck life in wich you are somebody's bitch....

    so only miricle can save cibona

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