Qatar wins right to host Fifa 2022 WC

[ip84]

It has absolutely nothing to do with the press. It's the whole idea of placing a FIFA Soccer Worldchamps onto a small territory, where is hardly any population, no soccer history, no need for so many stadiums, may they become the most beautiful ones in th world. It's only about what oil/gas money can buy.

Yes, Western countries are best suited for the job. There is no way around. Best leagues, best players, best infrastructure that has grown throughout many years. Nothing artificial. But, as I said, I didn't oppose Qatar as partial location for this event, although I have many objections because of weather conditions, lack of sightseeing places (please, don't bring shopping malls or hotels into the game), lack of indigenous population to crowd the arenas, sharia as the basis of law and problems that might (and most probably will) occur in regards to women, alcohol and celebration in public.

They are not investing money in this event. They are simply spending some of their huge surplus because of prestige reasons. If FIFA really doesn't care about politics, there are enough big countries in the Middle East with better soccer traditions. But they lack money Qatar has.

Interesting that no one dares to say a word about Russia, while people are discussing Qatar only.

Regarding Russian, I don't think that it's a problem that they lack the stadiums.
It will force them to build stadiums and contribute to the football and sport in the country.
I have been in Barcelona and I heard that hosting the Olympic games of 92 contributed a lot to the sport in the city and in the country.
I think the same can happen in Russia, a huge country, that like sports, that has a nice NT lately...

[ip84]

Even though these articles are a year old you can read about this issue:

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=NTMzMDk1OTA0

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/101120...ael-booze.html

Israel probably won't be there, so it's not relevant.
But what about Israelis, football fans, not the NT?

[goga78]

The negative posts I have read here so far are typical of arrogant nations that think that only western countries deserve to host a world cup. These nations often fill their newspapers on how the countries that won the right dont deserve to have the games and how bad they will be for the sport etc. Why do you think they do this? Do you think there is any truth to this rubbish that is published or just media scare campaigns to make the locals feel superior in their dictatorships.

Look at the Commonwealth Games in India as an example and how well they turned out to be. Australia and UK blasted these games and then they turned out just fine as I know people who attended this event and blasted such negative media hype afterwards.

Have a look at Qatars bid. When I saw this the first time I thought it was truly amazing. I had even posted it on my facebook page 6 months ago for the engineering marvel that is presented here.



When I compare this too something like Australias bid there is no comparison. No wonder they only got 1 vote and fell out first round, it was pathetic. As you will see it is not just Qatar but Bahrain as well so their is a joint effort taking place. I often work in Qatar and it is a fantastic location for a worldcup and they will have one of the best world cups in history.

For those that are throwing up these negative comments based on propogandistic journalism, go eat your sour grapes and have a good cry as the results were not rigged and the best bids deserved to win.

(Also did not one of the Australian officials get done for corruption? Tried to bribe some judge?)

It has absolutely nothing to do with the press. It's the whole idea of placing a FIFA Soccer Worldchamps onto a small territory, where is hardly any population, no soccer history, no need for so many stadiums, may they become the most beautiful ones in th world. It's only about what oil/gas money can buy.

Yes, Western countries are best suited for the job. There is no way around. Best leagues, best players, best infrastructure that has grown throughout many years. Nothing artificial. But, as I said, I didn't oppose Qatar as partial location for this event, although I have many objections because of weather conditions, lack of sightseeing places (please, don't bring shopping malls or hotels into the game), lack of indigenous population to crowd the arenas, sharia as the basis of law and problems that might (and most probably will) occur in regards to women, alcohol and celebration in public.

They are not investing money in this event. They are simply spending some of their huge surplus because of prestige reasons. If FIFA really doesn't care about politics, there are enough big countries in the Middle East with better soccer traditions. But they lack money Qatar has.

Interesting that no one dares to say a word about Russia, while people are discussing Qatar only.

[dxjayrock2008]

The negative posts I have read here so far are typical of arrogant nations that think that only western countries deserve to host a world cup. These nations often fill their newspapers on how the countries that won the right dont deserve to have the games and how bad they will be for the sport etc. Why do you think they do this? Do you think there is any truth to this rubbish that is published or just media scare campaigns to make the locals feel superior in their dictatorships.

Look at the Commonwealth Games in India as an example and how well they turned out to be. Australia and UK blasted these games and then they turned out just fine as I know people who attended this event and blasted such negative media hype afterwards.

Have a look at Qatars bid. When I saw this the first time I thought it was truly amazing. I had even posted it on my facebook page 6 months ago for the engineering marvel that is presented here.



When I compare this too something like Australias bid there is no comparison. No wonder they only got 1 vote and fell out first round, it was pathetic. As you will see it is not just Qatar but Bahrain as well so their is a joint effort taking place. I often work in Qatar and it is a fantastic location for a worldcup and they will have one of the best world cups in history.

For those that are throwing up these negative comments based on propogandistic journalism, go eat your sour grapes and have a good cry as the results were not rigged and the best bids deserved to win.

(Also did not one of the Australian officials get done for corruption? Tried to bribe some judge?)

Why don't they let these nations to host a big sporting event? They have the financial and logistical capabilities to handle this. Just do your own thing Qatar!

[Lietuvis]

The negative posts I have read here so far are typical of arrogant nations that think that only western countries deserve to host a world cup. These nations often fill their newspapers on how the countries that won the right dont deserve to have the games and how bad they will be for the sport etc. Why do you think they do this? Do you think there is any truth to this rubbish that is published or just media scare campaigns to make the locals feel superior in their dictatorships.

Look at the Commonwealth Games in India as an example and how well they turned out to be. Australia and UK blasted these games and then they turned out just fine as I know people who attended this event and blasted such negative media hype afterwards.

Have a look at Qatars bid. When I saw this the first time I thought it was truly amazing. I had even posted it on my facebook page 6 months ago for the engineering marvel that is presented here.



When I compare this too something like Australias bid there is no comparison. No wonder they only got 1 vote and fell out first round, it was pathetic. As you will see it is not just Qatar but Bahrain as well so their is a joint effort taking place. I often work in Qatar and it is a fantastic location for a worldcup and they will have one of the best world cups in history.

For those that are throwing up these negative comments based on propogandistic journalism, go eat your sour grapes and have a good cry as the results were not rigged and the best bids deserved to win.

(Also did not one of the Australian officials get done for corruption? Tried to bribe some judge?)

[CKR13]

I'm sorry but those innovators are just invited to work there for big money but nothing else. It's not "innovation made in Middle East".

I have read of brilliant architects coming from all over the world in co-designing and pioneering some architectural infrastructures in the Middle East. It is also inherent that they are compensated well financially for their services that justifies the subject, hence "innovations done in the Middle East". But impression varies from one perspective to that of another.

Would be better to spend this huge extra money on sth. useful. What happens, if you are outside of the arena? +50°C the whole time?

Interesting point and applies to all them football faithfuls. I have also heard that the temperature can surpass that off 50°C.

[goga78]

I read that Qatar plans to build Air-Conditioned Stadiums. A very ambitious project. Overall, I have seen wonderful engineering innovations done in the Middle East.

I'm sorry but those innovators are just invited to work there for big money but nothing else. It's not "innovation made in Middle East". Would be better to spend this huge extra money on sth. useful. What happens, if you are outside of the arena? +50°C the whole time?

Most of the people here are excited about air-conditioned stadiums instead of thinking about other lingering questions. Apart from everything else, I've written above, I simply don't get it, why smaller European countries (even bigger ones like Ukraine and Poland) unite for a goal, while Qatar will do it alone. It's not about money, it's about best possible conditions there. Best possible conditions for fans and shopping malls are not a top priority here.

[goga78]

Both decisions were scandalous and I'm more than sure, there are behind the scenes actions, which is why we don't know who has voted for whom (as far as I know).

Russia has no infrastructure at all. Arenas have to be built, hotels, airports have to be brought up-to-date. The whole system is too centralized. The distances are too far. Most of the money will land in the pockets of those who are bosses of the regions as well as their own bosses on the federal level. The decision to give Russia the Winter Olympics that will take place in SOCHI 2014 was already a scandalous one as there is probably no worse place for winter games in the ice-cold Russia than a subtropical region around Sochi. People are getting deprived of their homes, the environment is getting damaged, the terrain is simply not suited for such massive constructions. But billions of dollars end up in private pockets and that's normal for Russia.

What speaks for Russia is a big population, which is concentrated in the Western part of the country. The prices for tickets will however be too high for most of the people, especially outside of Moscow. For tourists, there are many places to visit in Russia, especially the architectural culture in the French and Italian style of the 18th and 19th centuries.

Russia has a history in soccer, be it pre-Soviet era, the Soviet era and modern days.

Qatar however has nothing to do with soccer. The country is tiny, the population is very narrow and consists of foreigners for most part. No climate, no changes, problematic politics, which have already been mentioned. No soccer history. It's not enough to spend tons of money. It's not about money. It's about fans. There is nothing to see, soccer fans won't be able to behave how they are used to (not the worst part - hooligans - of course). Will you see women in minis in the summer? I highly doubt it. Will man sit beside women, will women be let into the stadium, and if yes, will there be a difference between Women with an Iranian citizenship and a French one? If such events happen in Europe, while the host country is relatively small and does not have enough infrastructure, it unites with a second country, like Switzerland/Austria in the last soccer European Championship. It would understand it somewhat better, if several Gulf States would unite for this goal. At least, different places, different faces, although other problems would still remain. How should a tiny territory like Qatar host so man visitors at once? How many airports do they have? What will happen with all the soccer arenas, after the Mondial is over? I don't see, how they could be used.

FIFA should be ashamed of two more than doubtful decisions. It should have handled the stuff better. It's not enough, to throw around with money. The FIFA World Championship is a huge event that takes place every four years. It's about promoting this sport, it's about having the best possible infrastructure, it's about accessibility by fans and by chances for them to see sth. interesting besides soccer.

[CKR13]

I read that Qatar plans to build Air-Conditioned Stadiums. A very ambitious project. Overall, I have seen wonderful engineering innovations done in the Middle East.

[Khalid80]

Recently I read 2 descriptions of Israelis found themselves in Qatar.

One by the Israeli international tennis player Shahar Peer, who year before that didn't get a visa to enter the country because of being Israeli:

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3976666,00.html

Another one by Israelis who spend there a day because their transition flight from India to Qatar was late for the plan from Qatar to Israel so they were allowed to enter the country despite being Israelis.

From their description there are many foreigners there so the dressing codes should not be a problem.

The questions for me are
1. There are a lot of Israelis that like football and despite Israel never qualify (and I don't think it will change even in 12 years, although it's going to be a totally different generation), they travel to the word champs.
Will they be allowed to enter? And if not, should Fiba give the host for countries that don't allow citizens of other countries to visit their country?

2. Aren't the prices there are too expensive for tourists from most of the countries?

Even though these articles are a year old you can read about this issue:

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=NTMzMDk1OTA0

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/10112009/58/world-cup-qatar-2022-green-lights-israel-booze.html

Hey

IP I actually think you are correct, but I doubt FIFA will address the problem of Israeli's trying to enter.

Here are some of my issues with Qatar as well as some I've heard.

1) It is incredibly hot
2) All the stadium they are building will be worthless once the world cup is over, but that is true for most events like the olympics world cup ect.
3) They have no culture/history/anything to do beside shop and avoid the heat...(This is not meant to be racist in anyway, but they have no tourist sites)
4)...The Arabian Gulf. Frankly I don't care if it is called the Persian or Arabian Gulf, but it always causes tension in the middle-east.
5) It is taking place in one city. This may be a problem.

Arguments for

1) Badass new stadiums
2) Tons of shopping
3) Air conditioning
4) New Metro system.
5) They are serving alcohol.

I think Qatar having it is fine. I honestly think the only other candidate that deserved a chance was Australia. The US had it in 94, and I feel it might just be too soon to host again.

As for Russia having it...I think England should have been given the World Cup. It has been a long time since they hosted, and they already have almost all the infrastructure in place.

[ip84]

Recently I read 2 descriptions of Israelis found themselves in Qatar.

One by the Israeli international tennis player Shahar Peer, who year before that didn't get a visa to enter the country because of being Israeli:

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3976666,00.html

Another one by Israelis who spend there a day because their transition flight from India to Qatar was late for the plan from Qatar to Israel so they were allowed to enter the country despite being Israelis.

From their description there are many foreigners there so the dressing codes should not be a problem.

The questions for me are
1. There are a lot of Israelis that like football and despite Israel never qualify (and I don't think it will change even in 12 years, although it's going to be a totally different generation), they travel to the word champs.
Will they be allowed to enter? And if not, should Fiba give the host for countries that don't allow citizens of other countries to visit their country?

2. Aren't the prices there are too expensive for tourists from most of the countries?

[Khalid80]

I was surprised that both Russia and Qatar won their respective bids. I'm sure that many Europeans are furious over Russia winning the bid for 2018.

I'm sure they're even more furious after Qatar won the 2022 bid (The Americans, Aussies, Japanese and South Koreans are definitely upset as well).

As for the serving of alcohol i'm sure Qatar will manage something...They'll probably build an Island just for the pleasures of others were you can do whatever you want

[golebanon]

congratulations for Qatar they deserve it
i think they'll naturalize ronaldino and drogba
i hope to see our nt in this worldcup,although this will not happen even in dreams

[enomakos]

Saskibaloia, i think that Qatar deserves more credit than you are given em

i'm sure that you will be awestruck by the level of proffesionalism of this WC, Qataris, unlike Saudi arabia and other gulf countries are not so conservative, plus, trust me, they already mentioned that they will invest in i dont know what cooling systems to cool the tourists even outside of the stadiums

Qatar is going to throw billions and billions of dollars, trust me, they have nothing more valuable to invest in, you will see smt spectacular, trust me

money makes everything possible

thank you bros,you are right man

congrats qatar