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  • #16
    The negative posts I have read here so far are typical of arrogant nations that think that only western countries deserve to host a world cup. These nations often fill their newspapers on how the countries that won the right dont deserve to have the games and how bad they will be for the sport etc. Why do you think they do this? Do you think there is any truth to this rubbish that is published or just media scare campaigns to make the locals feel superior in their dictatorships.

    Look at the Commonwealth Games in India as an example and how well they turned out to be. Australia and UK blasted these games and then they turned out just fine as I know people who attended this event and blasted such negative media hype afterwards.

    Have a look at Qatars bid. When I saw this the first time I thought it was truly amazing. I had even posted it on my facebook page 6 months ago for the engineering marvel that is presented here.



    When I compare this too something like Australias bid there is no comparison. No wonder they only got 1 vote and fell out first round, it was pathetic. As you will see it is not just Qatar but Bahrain as well so their is a joint effort taking place. I often work in Qatar and it is a fantastic location for a worldcup and they will have one of the best world cups in history.

    For those that are throwing up these negative comments based on propogandistic journalism, go eat your sour grapes and have a good cry as the results were not rigged and the best bids deserved to win.

    (Also did not one of the Australian officials get done for corruption? Tried to bribe some judge?)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lietuvis View Post
      The negative posts I have read here so far are typical of arrogant nations that think that only western countries deserve to host a world cup. These nations often fill their newspapers on how the countries that won the right dont deserve to have the games and how bad they will be for the sport etc. Why do you think they do this? Do you think there is any truth to this rubbish that is published or just media scare campaigns to make the locals feel superior in their dictatorships.

      Look at the Commonwealth Games in India as an example and how well they turned out to be. Australia and UK blasted these games and then they turned out just fine as I know people who attended this event and blasted such negative media hype afterwards.

      Have a look at Qatars bid. When I saw this the first time I thought it was truly amazing. I had even posted it on my facebook page 6 months ago for the engineering marvel that is presented here.



      When I compare this too something like Australias bid there is no comparison. No wonder they only got 1 vote and fell out first round, it was pathetic. As you will see it is not just Qatar but Bahrain as well so their is a joint effort taking place. I often work in Qatar and it is a fantastic location for a worldcup and they will have one of the best world cups in history.

      For those that are throwing up these negative comments based on propogandistic journalism, go eat your sour grapes and have a good cry as the results were not rigged and the best bids deserved to win.

      (Also did not one of the Australian officials get done for corruption? Tried to bribe some judge?)

      Why don't they let these nations to host a big sporting event? They have the financial and logistical capabilities to handle this. Just do your own thing Qatar!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lietuvis View Post
        The negative posts I have read here so far are typical of arrogant nations that think that only western countries deserve to host a world cup. These nations often fill their newspapers on how the countries that won the right dont deserve to have the games and how bad they will be for the sport etc. Why do you think they do this? Do you think there is any truth to this rubbish that is published or just media scare campaigns to make the locals feel superior in their dictatorships.

        Look at the Commonwealth Games in India as an example and how well they turned out to be. Australia and UK blasted these games and then they turned out just fine as I know people who attended this event and blasted such negative media hype afterwards.

        Have a look at Qatars bid. When I saw this the first time I thought it was truly amazing. I had even posted it on my facebook page 6 months ago for the engineering marvel that is presented here.



        When I compare this too something like Australias bid there is no comparison. No wonder they only got 1 vote and fell out first round, it was pathetic. As you will see it is not just Qatar but Bahrain as well so their is a joint effort taking place. I often work in Qatar and it is a fantastic location for a worldcup and they will have one of the best world cups in history.

        For those that are throwing up these negative comments based on propogandistic journalism, go eat your sour grapes and have a good cry as the results were not rigged and the best bids deserved to win.

        (Also did not one of the Australian officials get done for corruption? Tried to bribe some judge?)
        It has absolutely nothing to do with the press. It's the whole idea of placing a FIFA Soccer Worldchamps onto a small territory, where is hardly any population, no soccer history, no need for so many stadiums, may they become the most beautiful ones in th world. It's only about what oil/gas money can buy.

        Yes, Western countries are best suited for the job. There is no way around. Best leagues, best players, best infrastructure that has grown throughout many years. Nothing artificial. But, as I said, I didn't oppose Qatar as partial location for this event, although I have many objections because of weather conditions, lack of sightseeing places (please, don't bring shopping malls or hotels into the game), lack of indigenous population to crowd the arenas, sharia as the basis of law and problems that might (and most probably will) occur in regards to women, alcohol and celebration in public.

        They are not investing money in this event. They are simply spending some of their huge surplus because of prestige reasons. If FIFA really doesn't care about politics, there are enough big countries in the Middle East with better soccer traditions. But they lack money Qatar has.

        Interesting that no one dares to say a word about Russia, while people are discussing Qatar only.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Khalid80 View Post
          Israel probably won't be there, so it's not relevant.
          But what about Israelis, football fans, not the NT?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by goga78 View Post
            It has absolutely nothing to do with the press. It's the whole idea of placing a FIFA Soccer Worldchamps onto a small territory, where is hardly any population, no soccer history, no need for so many stadiums, may they become the most beautiful ones in th world. It's only about what oil/gas money can buy.

            Yes, Western countries are best suited for the job. There is no way around. Best leagues, best players, best infrastructure that has grown throughout many years. Nothing artificial. But, as I said, I didn't oppose Qatar as partial location for this event, although I have many objections because of weather conditions, lack of sightseeing places (please, don't bring shopping malls or hotels into the game), lack of indigenous population to crowd the arenas, sharia as the basis of law and problems that might (and most probably will) occur in regards to women, alcohol and celebration in public.

            They are not investing money in this event. They are simply spending some of their huge surplus because of prestige reasons. If FIFA really doesn't care about politics, there are enough big countries in the Middle East with better soccer traditions. But they lack money Qatar has.

            Interesting that no one dares to say a word about Russia, while people are discussing Qatar only.
            Regarding Russian, I don't think that it's a problem that they lack the stadiums.
            It will force them to build stadiums and contribute to the football and sport in the country.
            I have been in Barcelona and I heard that hosting the Olympic games of 92 contributed a lot to the sport in the city and in the country.
            I think the same can happen in Russia, a huge country, that like sports, that has a nice NT lately...
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            • #21
              I don't know why any of these countries even want to host the WC (or the Olympics). The cost to the public is far too great compared to what they bring in. These huge sporting events are "white elephants" for the countries that want them. It's like the NBA/NFL/MLB teams that threaten to leave US cities unless the city governments kick in $500+ million to build a new stadium.

              Qatar was chosen because it's a sexy, new country that the European and Asian aristocracy flocks to.
              "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ip84 View Post
                Regarding Russian, I don't think that it's a problem that they lack the stadiums.
                It will force them to build stadiums and contribute to the football and sport in the country.
                I have been in Barcelona and I heard that hosting the Olympic games of 92 contributed a lot to the sport in the city and in the country.
                I think the same can happen in Russia, a huge country, that like sports, that has a nice NT lately...
                They will build stadiums, no doubt. The problem is the massive corruption and the amount of money this World Champs will cost because of a huge chunk of money will vanish in pivate pockets. Russia would be better of investing money in the youth. We see all federations complaining that money is being pumped in professional teams, whereas recreational sports and youth teams have no funds and the situation is much worse than ever before. Same in basketball. Remember the last Winter Olympics, where the Russian delegation was partying hard every day at the expense of leaving coaches at home (!) and when Russia has hardly won any medals and this scandal came out, nobody was fired, everything remaine like it has been before.

                The only positive detail is that several cities will have good attractions after the championship, local professional teams could use. But providing a major boost for soccer in Russia? I doubt it. Soccer is #1 kind of sport anyway and enough people feel attracted to it. It's sth. different with Olympic games with many random disciplines. Basketball has profited world-wide after Barcelona because the world has seen the Dream Team. If an event like that would happen in a free country with a free press and transparent power system, these Games would truly be a boost and not yet another chance to steal money.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mvblair View Post

                  Qatar was chosen because it's a sexy, new country that the European and Asian aristocracy flocks to.
                  Soccer is known as sports for the masses not for the few chosen ones. In what regards do you consider Qatar as "sexy"? Lots to see in order to spend a whole week of holidays?

                  In any case, the choices have been announced and they will not be reversed. I just hope for political changes in Russia, so people can really benefit from these games (unlike the Sochi Olympics that already cost much more money than originally proposed, while nothing has been built so far). Qatar, well, it won't get bigger and it is sure to spend tons of money to make it a futuristic event. I still remain highly sceptical about tiny countries hosting such events.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by goga78 View Post
                    They will build stadiums, no doubt. The problem is the massive corruption and the amount of money this World Champs will cost because of a huge chunk of money will vanish in pivate pockets. Russia would be better of investing money in the youth. We see all federations complaining that money is being pumped in professional teams, whereas recreational sports and youth teams have no funds and the situation is much worse than ever before. Same in basketball. Remember the last Winter Olympics, where the Russian delegation was partying hard every day at the expense of leaving coaches at home (!) and when Russia has hardly won any medals and this scandal came out, nobody was fired, everything remaine like it has been before.

                    The only positive detail is that several cities will have good attractions after the championship, local professional teams could use. But providing a major boost for soccer in Russia? I doubt it. Soccer is #1 kind of sport anyway and enough people feel attracted to it. It's sth. different with Olympic games with many random disciplines. Basketball has profited world-wide after Barcelona because the world has seen the Dream Team. If an event like that would happen in a free country with a free press and transparent power system, these Games would truly be a boost and not yet another chance to steal money.
                    It will give a boost not by rising the popularity of the sport, which I wrote myself that is already popular, but by building facilities.

                    Hosting event requires investments but also return lot of incomes.
                    Anybody knows the numbers from the previous tournaments?
                    If like you say, the investment would be made from the state's money, and the outcome would go into the oligarch's pocket it's a problematic thing.
                    The question is if it should be FIBA's duty to investigate the corruption of the country, which is an interior political issue.
                    Besides, is the situations at Brazil, or South Africa, or Argentina for example are better? I really don't know, but who should judge it?
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                    • #25
                      I think MV and IP are right, but Goga if you had choice where would you decide to place the tourney.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by theleatherwallet View Post
                        I think MV and IP are right, but Goga if you had choice where would you decide to place the tourney.
                        Exactly, a negative argument could be formulated for just about every country in the world.

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                        • #27
                          Last 10 FIFA world cups:

                          South Africa (Africa )
                          Germany (WE)
                          Japan/Korea ?(Asia)
                          France (WE )
                          US (America)
                          Rome (WE )
                          Mexico (America)
                          Spain (WE )
                          Argentina (America)
                          Germany (WE )

                          I'd say Western European & American countries are kinda overexposed in this list, so it makes a sense that Eastern European (Russia) & Asia (Qatar) got the tickets.

                          Both countries aren't exactly beacons of freedoms & human rights , but if South Africa got it , why not those two ?

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                          • #28
                            lol:

                            (you can use the translator, plus there is a video there)
                            This is so pathetic !
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ip84 View Post
                              Regarding Russian, I don't think that it's a problem that they lack the stadiums.
                              It will force them to build stadiums and contribute to the football and sport in the country.
                              I have been in Barcelona and I heard that hosting the Olympic games of 92 contributed a lot to the sport in the city and in the country.
                              I think the same can happen in Russia, a huge country, that like sports, that has a nice NT lately...
                              I havent seen one single good reason why Qatar should not host the World Cup.. All arrogant favoritism and misconceptions.....Who has been to Qatar can someone tell me?

                              I am personally happy for Qatar to host the world cup...banish thoughts about no alcohol, inappropriate dress regulation. Western culture is already prevalent throughout the entire the higher classes and circles of Arabia like Western cultures and sometimes beaten the Westerns to it...

                              firstly it is going to be but very light restrictions.....secondly talk about no football history or no national team....well here's my answer

                              what the $%^* is your problem?!...get there, watch the bloomin world cup and leave...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sophie Hart View Post
                                I havent seen one single good reason why Qatar should not host the World Cup.. All arrogant favoritism and misconceptions.....Who has been to Qatar can someone tell me?

                                I am personally happy for Qatar to host the world cup...banish thoughts about no alcohol, inappropriate dress regulation. Western culture is already prevalent throughout the entire the higher classes and circles of Arabia like Western cultures and sometimes beaten the Westerns to it...

                                firstly it is going to be but very light restrictions.....secondly talk about no football history or no national team....well here's my answer

                                what the $%^* is your problem?!...get there, watch the bloomin world cup and leave...


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