16 of March - Murdered

[Big Lebowski]

[goga78]

You can call it a homicide or a manslaughter. A murder has a totally different quality. Besides, it's not even a full-consciuos homicide. So, with all regrets to Rachel Corrie's parents, you can stop your propaganda try right away.

[C02]

1. Nobody proved she was murdered.
2. When you come to a war area, trying to interfere with army operation you have a very good chance of not coming back.
3. I hope that her death has explained to the other brainless freaks of this kind that such games are dangerous and should be avoided.

[rikhardur]

Come on goga78 don't see that right away as propaganda (it kind of reminds me of our "debates" )

[goga78]

Come on goga78 don't see that right away as propaganda (it kind of reminds me of our "debates" )

Rik, amigo mio!
How should a call a statement that is only there to twist the facts? It's not like R.I.P. Rachel Corrie, it's calling sth. a marduer which wasn't a murder at all. She paid the risk of going to a no-go area where no one in his mind could guarantee safety to her. If you plant yourself infront of a bulldozer with the driver having no chance to see you, it's your own risk and no judge a this world (well, I'm overestimating this profession here and now ) would speak the bulldozer driver guilty of a negligent homicide, since th cause and the result was self-inflicted. A murder has different qualifications, which simply don't fit here. If you chose to call it a murder, it's simply not true and since it is being placed in here because of political reasons (not humanitarian in any sense), it's propaganda.
Why for all the reasons in the world is no one complaining and writing sth. about a mass genocide in Darfur or a recent REAL murder of the Russian journalist Ivan Safronov? It would be a good and sincere topic, where no one would be of a different opinion. Why don't we find a photo of an Israeli teenager, who was blown up, while riding a bus for a single reason - because he was a Jew and there was an intent to MURDER him or sb. else, regardless of who this man or woman is?

[C02]

Why for all the reasons in the world is no one complaining and writing sth. about a mass genocide in Darfur or a recent REAL murder of the Russian journalist Ivan Safronov? It would be a good and sincere topic, where no one would be of a different opinion. Why don't we find a photo of an Israeli teenager, who was blown up, while riding a bus for a single reason - because he was a Jew and there was an intent to MURDER him or sb. else, regardless of who this man or woman is?

Would you just stop this whining ?! One guy started anti-israeli propaganda
topic. So fucking what ? What is the big deal ?
And you know what ? May be this topic is even not about Israel, but about the driver of that bulldozer, who Big Lebowsky accuses of murder personally and he never intended to claim that Israel was a murderous state

[goga78]

Would you just stop this whining ?! One guy started anti-israeli propaganda
topic. So fucking what ? What is the big deal ?
And you know what ? May be this topic is even not about Israel, but about the driver of that bulldozer, who Big Lebowsky accuses of murder personally and he never intended to claim that Israel was a murderous state

You know, it's better to think before writing such stuff. If you tend not to answer to such topics and let lies stand alone, it's your businness, although this is not the right behaviour imho. You know pretty darn good, that Big Lebowski didn't mean a sigle person here.
So waht? Yes, we can't cure the world but we can have an argument with another person and delivers proofs and facts if we don't like some wrong statements being uttered. After all, there are enough people whoe have no clue what's going on and one-two such unanswered topics are enough for them to take one side in this conflict still without knowing anything.

[C02]

You know, it's better to think before writing such stuff. If you tend not to answer to such topics and let lies stand alone, it's your businness, although this is not the right behaviour imho. You know pretty darn good, that Big Lebowski didn't mean a sigle person here.
So whht? Yes, we can't cure the world but we can have an argument with another person and delivers proofs and facts if we don't like some wrong statements being uttered. After all, there are enough people whoe have no clue what's going on and one-two such unanswered topics are enough for them to take one side in this conflict still without knowing anything.

I did answer to the topic as you can see. I just hate this "why it's always about the jews" whining. Firstly, because it just NOT. Secondly, you sound intelligent enough to understand that arab-israeli conflict is much more popular and known topic than a murder of some russian journalist or a civil war in Sudan, or whatever it was and as such is much more likely to be brought up in whatever connection. Yet you chose being extremely naive about this specific issue making a laughable comparison with some anonymous to 99.999% of the earth population, russian journalist.
Looking for an excuse to start this "why they are always against the jews" whining. [edited].

[Jan van Grabski]

Flowers are beautiful because they die.

Is she your hero, BL ? Sad, when words like "hero" focus on the death, not the life.

[Calvin]

Didn't Rachel Corrie win a Darwin Award. If she didn't she was robbed. Anyone dumb enough to be a fail buffer in that conflict deserves what they get.

[Nikoo]

6,525,170,264.
Yes I'm emotionless freak

[HIGHLANDER]

Everything a side. You have to respect these people because they choose to go and try to help other people who are obviously powerless, regardless of how dangerous it might be. Yes we can all have an a opinion but really we are all just sitting on our arses and they are actually trying to make a difference.

[MikeMaccabiFan]

Everything a side. You have to respect these people because they choose to go and try to help other people who are obviously powerless, regardless of how dangerous it might be. Yes we can all have an a opinion but really we are all just sitting on our arses and they are actually trying to make a difference.

I have no respect for people helping (for whatever reason) terrorists to kill our children. They give them legitimation, publicity, and martyrs - she's not the one, though - I don't think she's any different from someone coming to building site and being killed by bulldozer.

[LuDux]

6,525,170,264.
Yes I'm emotionless freak

There did you get that number?


Here's my calculations according to http://www.ibiblio.org/lunarbin/worldpop

6,320,400,266 2003-3-16 12:00 am (1)
6,320,650,278 2003-3-17 12:00 am (2)
0,000,250,012 difference in 24 hours (3)
0,000,010,417 difference in 1 hour (4)
according to wikipedia it happened "[Between 16:45 and 17:00]"
10,417*16,75=174,488 (5a) and 10,417*17,00=177,092 (5b)
(1)+(5a)-1=6,320,574,753 and (1)+(5b)-1=6,320,577,357

[C02]

You people are nothing but cynical heartless bastards