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  • sinobball
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    Originally posted by JGX View Post
    His birth certificate has his correct birthdate (http://documents.latimes.com/shabazz...h-certificate/). It's not really clear how his father was able to lie about his age (and birthplace) and get away with it for years, you'd think they must have had some kind of fake document but I've never seen any details on that.
    Notice in the pic, his father's DOB is listed as "unknown". I suppose it's better than having an "unknown" for the father's name.


    The relevant paragraphs for those who aren't familiar with the story
    Court records show that Holmes used numerous aliases over the years but agreed to stick to his birth name as part of a 2000 probation agreement. In that federal criminal case, he pleaded guilty to using phony bank statements and tax returns to secure mortgages. He served six months' house arrest.

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    Asked about the discrepancy, Holmes insisted his son was 19 and born in Nevada. "It must be a mistake," he said. Several minutes later, he changed his account, saying that his son is, in fact, 20 and was born in Long Beach.

    Holmes expressed concern about disclosure of his son's true age and his own criminal record and questioned whether either was newsworthy. He followed up with a text message. "Bazz is going to blow up in the NBA lets team up and blow this thing up!!!" Holmes wrote to this reporter. "I'm going to need a publicist anyway why shouldn't it be you. We can do some big things together."
    I'm sure this man knows how to falsify legal documents. Which makes me wonder, how many American guys who did not "blow up" (and therefore aren't scrutinized) also had access to these means. Probably negligible in terms of percentage, but possibly quite a few considering the huge number of players the USA produces.
    Last edited by sinobball; 06-28-2013, 07:45 AM.

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  • carlo
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    There must have been some fake certificate, Shabazz was listed as 1993 born in the 2012 Nike Hoop Summit roster by USA Basketball.

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  • JGX
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    His birth certificate has his correct birthdate (http://documents.latimes.com/shabazz...h-certificate/). It's not really clear how his father was able to lie about his age (and birthplace) and get away with it for years, you'd think they must have had some kind of fake document but I've never seen any details on that.

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  • sinobball
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    Went #14 to Utah.

    I have a question though: did his father intentionally falsify his birth certificate? I didn't know it could be done in this country. And why would he admit that all of a sudden?

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  • CKR13
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    Good luck to Muhammad in the NBA Draft. One and done way that has gone wrong. He had a tumultuous college career from injuries, to eligibility questions, up and down production and the fake date of birth that his manipulative father exposed.

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  • CKR13
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    Not long after UCLA's defeat against Minnesota, Muhammad's father admitted that Muhammad is 20 years old and not 19 years old. What a very frustrating time for Shabazz.

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  • alex15
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    Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
    For my part the OR ones are Noel and McAdoo. Both were hyped so much during their recruitment.
    For me Noel is a top 5 pick, Defensively he's a beast a Marcus Camby type of a player.

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  • CKR13
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    Originally posted by alex15 View Post
    yeah I agree Bobcats needs a go to scorer they have the pieces, I think Muhammad is a perfect fit with the Bobcats, You'll have Walker, Kidd-Gilchrist, Mullens, Biyombo, Taylor and Henderson.

    How about overrated players whose on your list? for me Adonis Thomas, James McAdoo, Wear Twins, Poythress...
    For my part the OR ones are Noel and McAdoo. Both were hyped so much during their recruitment.

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  • alex15
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    Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
    Oh no, just I'm just a basketball follower. Anyways, been a fan of Calipari since he recruited Tyreke Evans.

    About Muhammad, a scout opened quite a pitch when he recommended that the Charlotte Bobcats, (who have been following Muhammad's progress) should trade Muhammad or pass up on Muhammad.
    yeah I agree Bobcats needs a go to scorer they have the pieces, I think Muhammad is a perfect fit with the Bobcats, You'll have Walker, Kidd-Gilchrist, Mullens, Biyombo, Taylor and Henderson.

    How about overrated players whose on your list? for me Adonis Thomas, James McAdoo, Wear Twins, Poythress...

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  • CKR13
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    Originally posted by alex15 View Post
    maaan you really know college basketball, are you an analysis or something?

    anyways have you seen this? after watching this just become a calipari fan lol
    Oh no, just I'm just a basketball follower. Anyways, been a fan of Calipari since he recruited Tyreke Evans.

    About Muhammad, a scout opened quite a pitch when he recommended that the Charlotte Bobcats, (who have been following Muhammad's progress) should trade Muhammad or pass up on Muhammad.

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  • alex15
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    Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
    Marcus Smart and Anthony Bennett have been big winners in terms of leap in most draft boards. Smart could be drafted into the top five due to his pedigree of an NBA lead guard prototype. Plus I like the ripple effect on which Smart is having towards beneficiary and teammate, LeBryan Nash.

    While Bennett I see could be a top ten pick. I'm not too sure if Bennett is an SF or PF. There will be questions on what position will Bennett thrive in the NBA. He's too small to be a PF while there are still deficiencies on his game to be an NBA level SF. Anyways, Canada wins big on him.
    maaan you really know college basketball, are you an analysis or something?

    anyways have you seen this? after watching this just become a calipari fan lol





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  • CKR13
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    Originally posted by alex15 View Post
    A lot of draft sites already had Ben Mclemore as the first pick in the 2013 draft, he is also being compared to Ray Allen. I agree for me Noel is overrated, Cody Zeller reminds me of a young Pau Gasol needs to improve his toughness I like Alex Len a lot his athletic, a great rebounder and he has a great footwork. and How about Marcus Smart and Anthony Bennett?
    Marcus Smart and Anthony Bennett have been big winners in terms of leap in most draft boards. Smart could be drafted into the top five due to his pedigree of an NBA lead guard prototype. Plus I like the ripple effect on which Smart is having towards beneficiary and teammate, LeBryan Nash.

    While Bennett I see could be a top ten pick. I'm not too sure if Bennett is an SF or PF. There will be questions on what position will Bennett thrive in the NBA. He's too small to be a PF while there are still deficiencies on his game to be an NBA level SF. Anyways, Canada wins big on him.

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  • alex15
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    Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
    It is hard to foresee, but it could happen if Kansas goes the distance and Mclemore still putting up those numbers or better. As for Noel, I find him raw in the offense, but his natural shot-blocking is an asset. I look for Noel to skid as March Madness approaches. At this point, I'll pick Cody Zeller, Alex Len and Willie Cauley-Stein ahead of Noel.
    A lot of draft sites already had Ben Mclemore as the first pick in the 2013 draft, he is also being compared to Ray Allen. I agree for me Noel is overrated, Cody Zeller reminds me of a young Pau Gasol needs to improve his toughness I like Alex Len a lot his athletic, a great rebounder and he has a great footwork. and How about Marcus Smart and Anthony Bennett?

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  • CKR13
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    Originally posted by alex15 View Post
    What do you think can Ben Mclemore can go #1 in the 2013 draft? and what do you think about Nerlens Noel?
    It is hard to foresee, but it could happen if Kansas goes the distance and Mclemore still putting up those numbers or better. As for Noel, I find him raw in the offense, but his natural shot-blocking is an asset. I look for Noel to skid as March Madness approaches. At this point, I'll pick Cody Zeller, Alex Len and Willie Cauley-Stein ahead of Noel.

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  • alex15
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    Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
    At this point, I would say yes. From my passive following of Muhammad this season, he is showing to be a one dimensional player; all he does is score and it did not fuel UCLA's PAC12 aspirations of lording it over. It seems, Muhammad is not even trying in defense as he has yet to block a shot this season and only five steals so far. While his assists numbers are extremely disappointing.

    No doubt, Mclemore is Mr. JayHawks now. His improved percentages from his fg% and 3pt% is a product of him choosing his shots wisely. More efficient than Muhammad.

    We'll see more comparisons as college hoops heat up.
    What do you think can Ben Mclemore can go #1 in the 2013 draft? and what do you think about Nerlens Noel?

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