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  • #76
    Originally posted by alex15 View Post
    yeah I agree Bobcats needs a go to scorer they have the pieces, I think Muhammad is a perfect fit with the Bobcats, You'll have Walker, Kidd-Gilchrist, Mullens, Biyombo, Taylor and Henderson.

    How about overrated players whose on your list? for me Adonis Thomas, James McAdoo, Wear Twins, Poythress...
    For my part the OR ones are Noel and McAdoo. Both were hyped so much during their recruitment.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
      For my part the OR ones are Noel and McAdoo. Both were hyped so much during their recruitment.
      For me Noel is a top 5 pick, Defensively he's a beast a Marcus Camby type of a player.

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      • #78
        Not long after UCLA's defeat against Minnesota, Muhammad's father admitted that Muhammad is 20 years old and not 19 years old. What a very frustrating time for Shabazz.
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        • #79
          Good luck to Muhammad in the NBA Draft. One and done way that has gone wrong. He had a tumultuous college career from injuries, to eligibility questions, up and down production and the fake date of birth that his manipulative father exposed.
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          • #80
            Went #14 to Utah.

            I have a question though: did his father intentionally falsify his birth certificate? I didn't know it could be done in this country. And why would he admit that all of a sudden?
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            • #81
              His birth certificate has his correct birthdate (http://documents.latimes.com/shabazz...h-certificate/). It's not really clear how his father was able to lie about his age (and birthplace) and get away with it for years, you'd think they must have had some kind of fake document but I've never seen any details on that.
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              • #82
                There must have been some fake certificate, Shabazz was listed as 1993 born in the 2012 Nike Hoop Summit roster by USA Basketball.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by JGX View Post
                  His birth certificate has his correct birthdate (http://documents.latimes.com/shabazz...h-certificate/). It's not really clear how his father was able to lie about his age (and birthplace) and get away with it for years, you'd think they must have had some kind of fake document but I've never seen any details on that.
                  Notice in the pic, his father's DOB is listed as "unknown". I suppose it's better than having an "unknown" for the father's name.


                  The relevant paragraphs for those who aren't familiar with the story
                  Court records show that Holmes used numerous aliases over the years but agreed to stick to his birth name as part of a 2000 probation agreement. In that federal criminal case, he pleaded guilty to using phony bank statements and tax returns to secure mortgages. He served six months' house arrest.

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                  Asked about the discrepancy, Holmes insisted his son was 19 and born in Nevada. "It must be a mistake," he said. Several minutes later, he changed his account, saying that his son is, in fact, 20 and was born in Long Beach.

                  Holmes expressed concern about disclosure of his son's true age and his own criminal record and questioned whether either was newsworthy. He followed up with a text message. "Bazz is going to blow up in the NBA lets team up and blow this thing up!!!" Holmes wrote to this reporter. "I'm going to need a publicist anyway why shouldn't it be you. We can do some big things together."
                  I'm sure this man knows how to falsify legal documents. Which makes me wonder, how many American guys who did not "blow up" (and therefore aren't scrutinized) also had access to these means. Probably negligible in terms of percentage, but possibly quite a few considering the huge number of players the USA produces.
                  Last edited by sinobball; 06-28-2013, 07:45 AM.
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