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Originally posted by mvblair View PostI like those expert picks. It goes to show that people are revisionists, just like me.
Up until the start of this season, I really, really, really thought Mike Brown should be sacked, even after they went to the Championship series. Then, this year, they seemed to be playing incredibly well. Everything was great during the regular season. LeBron was smooth, Shaq accepted his role, Varejao was hustling, we got Jamison, Mo Williams was shooting....and all those experts and fans thought the Cavs would be in the Finals again. Now this play-off disaster happens and all the experts and fans tell us that they saw it coming.
So, while I agree that Mike Brown shares some of the blame for the play-off loss, he was very successful this season and he deserves a lot of credit for the great season. That is a success and an important one.
...but...
Mike Brown did fail to make any significant adjustments during the Chicago series this year and the Boston debacle. We've been riding his horse for a long time. It probably is time for a change.
I'm sure Phil Jackson would be great, but I would hate it.
I always liked Paul Silas when he was the Cavs coach.
They have a king but no Chancellor. Just a King and his Serfs. No team wins this way. For me the Cavs lack some spirit. They are all very happy to be there and to wait for Lebron to bring them a ring.
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Interesting Article
courtesy of hoopsworld.com
This was because last weekend the Celtics had just been eviscerated by LeBron James and the Cavs in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals, by the final score of 124-95. The Cavs held a commanding 2-1 lead in the series, LeBron was his usual, unstoppable self (38 points on 63% shooting, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, and just 1 turnover in Game 3), and it appeared to most that it was only a matter of time before King James and the young Cavaliers dispatched the Celts.
Who in their right mind would have had the audacity to predict Boston would win the next three games - by a combined 51 points, no less! Or that the win last Friday night in Boston would be the Cavs last victory of the 2009-2010 season; and possibly the last time LeBron would walk off the floor as a winner in a Cavaliers uniform.
Nobody could have foreseen the meltdown ahead. Nor could anyone have imagined LeBron would (shockingly and inexplicably) barely break a sweat in a crucial Game 5. For a lack of a better word, it was all a bit inconceivable. Unfortunately for Cleveland and their fans, their worst nightmares became a sad reality.
And this is what makes "What's next for the Cavs?" such a difficult question to answer; no one expected to be facing these queries this soon, or under these particular circumstances.
The easy, short answer to the question: lots and lots of nervous handwringing. But after the autopsy is performed and the obituary of the 2009-2010 season is written, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth is over – the reality of the situation has to be dealt with.
Thus, let's take a look at what the Cavaliers franchise is currently facing.
LeBron. Obviously, any talk surrounding the future of the franchise begins and ends with LeBron James. Unfortunately for Cleveland, as depressing as the season-ending Game 6 defeat was, LeBron's comments in his postgame press conference afterwards were extremely disheartening as well. Not only did LeBron refuse to refer to the Cavs as "we," but whenever he spoke about "his team" he was alluding to his agents/friends/handlers. LeBron again spoke of keeping his options open and exploring different possibilities. In no way could it be interpreted as the reassurance Cavs fans were hoping they would hear.
Moreover, the manner in which the Cavs lost – in the second round as heavy favorites, with LeBron's teammates not carrying their weight – adds further fuel to the fire.
Moreover, LBJ isn't the only member of the organization with an uncertain future.
Head coach Mike Brown hasn't been fired yet, but 'yet' is the operative word. It is safe to assume his days in Cleveland are numbered.
General Manager Danny Ferry's contract is also up. Will he be brought back? Is owner Dan Gilbert satisfied with the players Ferry brought in to surround LeBron? Was LeBron satisfied with the players Ferry brought in to surround LeBron?
As far as the roster itself, there will actually be very little turnover. The only free agents, other than LeBron, are Shaquille O'Neal and Zydrunas Ilgauskus.
The rest of the team is locked up in long-term contracts. Antawn Jamison and Jamario Moon are signed thru 2012. Mo Williams and Daniel 'Boobie' Gibson's contracts don't expire until 2013. Anderson Varejao has another five years left on his deal (with a team option for the 2014-2015 season). The majority of the Cavs roster is essentially set. Barring a big trade, many of the starters and key bench contributors are locked in.
When the Cavs were steamrolling though the regular season and appeared to be developing into an eventual champion, this future stability and continuity of the Cavs roster was viewed as a saving grace and a significant advantage. Over the last year or so, when someone would play the "LeBron will never leave Cleveland" card, they would often point to the roster and insist that Cleveland gave LeBron the best chance to win, both now and in the future. Why would LeBron leave for uncertainty and inferior talent elsewhere?
Now, in light of all that has taken place this past week, can that argument really be made with the same conviction?
The gloomy reality staring Clevelanders in the face is that the way the Cavs season ended and the way the team disintegrated down the stretch was an absolute dream scenario for fans in Chicago, New York, and New Jersey. Bulls, Knicks, and Nets fans simply could not have asked for a better turn of events.
If we are going to examine what's next on the Cavaliers horizon, we have to at least address the possibility of LeBron leaving, right? As devastating as it would be for the franchise and the city and the state ($100+ million impact?), a contingency plan should be in place, just in case.
So, with that in mind, would the Cavs consider a sign-and-trade? As we know, the Cavs can offer LeBron the most money, both in terms of annual salary and length of contract, so signing his deal with Dan Gilbert makes the most fiscal sense for LeBron, even if he plans to relocate.
Subtracting the money owed to LeBron (once he opts out of his contract) Cleveland has $48.4 million in committed salaries for the 2010-2011 season. This means that they would only have about $7.7 million (assuming the cap land at $56.1 million) to spend on potential free agents in an attempt to make up for the loss of The King. A sign-and-trade scenario would allow the Cavs to add talented, high-salary players to their depleted roster. If LeBron was determined to desert Cleveland anyway, would the Cavs consider that option?
I would imagine it would be a difficult choice to make. In a way, it is giving LeBron a potential excuse – he could later claim that he was "helping" the franchise on his way out the door. Cleveland brass may want to put pressure on LBJ, and force him to stay in Cleveland or abandon his home town completely (and leave money on the table in the process). But would this be a case of cutting off their nose to spite their face?
For instance, if LeBron chose to sign with the Knicks, could the two sides discuss a sign-and-trade involving David Lee? With Shaq and Zydrunas out of the picture, the Cavs don't have a center on their roster and Lee was very solid in the middle for the Knicks the past couple of seasons, even earning an Eastern Conference All-Star nod back in February?
Or if LBJ decided on Chicago, would the Cavs consider accepting Luol Deng (despite his bloated contract) in exchange? This would give Cleveland a solid starting small forward. Otherwise, they'd be looking at a combination of Jamario Moon and Jawad Williams potentially splitting minutes at SF. Not a pretty proposition.
All things considered, the future of this franchise remains very much up in the air. There will be continuous conjecture and endless speculation over the next 45 days.
What's next for the Cavs? Very difficult to predict right now, check back in early July, we should have a much clearer idea by then…
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?...#ixzz0o8Shbgmo
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Shaq for 3 more years?
according to an article in nypost.com
CLEVELAND -- Cavaliers free agent center Shaquille O'Neal, a Newark native, told The Post he would consider the Nets as a destination this summer -- intrigued because they now reside in his hometown.
O'Neal, the Cavs "other" free agent, praised the new Prudential Center as being an NBA hotspot and said he would rather them not move to Brooklyn in 2013.
"I think it's better than most arenas, I think it's one of the best arenas in the country," O'Neal told The Post following the Cavaliers' stunning second-round elimination against Boston on Thursday night. "Hopefully they can stay there forever. I don't know what's going on with the Brooklyn situation, but it says a lot for the city of Newark." O'Neal has real-estate investments in Newark and is also intrigued in one day being a part-owner of the Nets because they now are in Newark. But he would want them to stay there. Shaq had long wondered why it took so long for the club to move to his hometown. Last season, while with Phoenix, he attended a Devils game at Prudential Center and got a grand tour by the owners.
O'Neal said he is happy to see the Nets have a new owner in Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov.
"It's great that they are in Newark and have a new owner," O'Neal said.
O'Neal said two years ago in a published report on Nets' ownership, "It'd be nice -- real nice. I know the area, I know the people, it's close to New York."
O'Neal, who missed nearly the final seven weeks of the regular season with torn ligaments in his thumb, did not have a good postseason in a starting role. His addition as one of the final pieces to a championship puzzle ultimately backfired because he didn't mesh well with LeBron James.
Nevertheless, the 350-pound O'Neal could make a good backup center to young Brook Lopez and show him the ropes as he nears retirement.
"I've got a lot of options," O'Neal said. "We'll just see. I still got to sit down and look at all my options. I don't want to comment on [the Nets]. It's too early."
But Shaq, at 38 the NBA's oldest active player, wants to keep playing a few more years.
"Of course. I missed 360 games due to injury in my career so by my calculations I still have 3.7 years left," O'Neal said. "That means I'm going to play until I'm 41. I've missed a lot of games, so I still feel I can play."
Perhaps O'Neal became the victim of the vaunted Sports Illustrated cover jinx as he graced the cover this week with the headline: "Win a Ring for the King." It didn't happen and now it's doubtful Cleveland will re-sign him. He was slow on defense in the Boston series and got eaten up in Game 6 by Kevin Garnett. In the playoffs, O'Neal averaged 11.5 points and 5.5 rebounds.
"There are a lot of free agents on the team," Shaq said. "We just have to sit back, and I'm sure everybody's going to do what's best for them."
The Knicks, meanwhile, have a glaring need at center but O'Neal's arrival in Phoenix with coach Mike D'Antoni wasn't a huge success.
But he didn't rule out the Knicks either.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/...#ixzz0o3MxL0x8
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I like those expert picks. It goes to show that people are revisionists, just like me.
Up until the start of this season, I really, really, really thought Mike Brown should be sacked, even after they went to the Championship series. Then, this year, they seemed to be playing incredibly well. Everything was great during the regular season. LeBron was smooth, Shaq accepted his role, Varejao was hustling, we got Jamison, Mo Williams was shooting....and all those experts and fans thought the Cavs would be in the Finals again. Now this play-off disaster happens and all the experts and fans tell us that they saw it coming.
So, while I agree that Mike Brown shares some of the blame for the play-off loss, he was very successful this season and he deserves a lot of credit for the great season. That is a success and an important one.
...but...
Mike Brown did fail to make any significant adjustments during the Chicago series this year and the Boston debacle. We've been riding his horse for a long time. It probably is time for a change.
I'm sure Phil Jackson would be great, but I would hate it.
I always liked Paul Silas when he was the Cavs coach.
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LOL at the experts.
Maybe I should get a job @ ESPN:
I didn't get it right either, but better than most
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Originally posted by Test View PostWell I say fuck Crabs and fuck King Crab too.
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Everybody talk on same topics:
Why Lebron James lost?
Where will Lebron go this summer?
What will happen with the Cavs?
Well I say fuck Crabs and fuck King Crab too.
Congratulations to BOSTON CELTICS - They won! Everybody only talks that CAVS LOST, but the true is that BOSTON WON? Now get it? Why nobody talks about KG, PP, Ray Allen and Bostons squad... They deserved to be talked about.
Oh and look here too, might be interesting
THIS is ESPN prediction experts.
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SI.com reports that Mike Brown was just dismissed
SI.com also reporting that Mike Brown was rehired and fired seven times to make the point.
Cavs owner denied first report
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Do you think Cleveland should keep Coach Mike Brown?
Coach Brown has been in the head coach of the Cavs for the past 5 seasons. Should the organisation keep him for another year or should they try another coach? The website: the Bleacher Report had an interesting article: "LeBron James: Forget a Scottie Pippen, He Needs a Phil Jackson" and in the article they say that Coach Brown is not LeBron's Phil Jackson. If Mike Brown isn't the coach for LeBron who do you think is? Should Cleveland go from a defensive team to a more balanced method of play? Or is the problem not of the coach or his systems but rather the supporting cast that LeBron has?
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Originally posted by Lebron23 View PostThe Cleveland Cavaliers clinched the best record in the league, and they are gonna have the HC advantage in the playoffs.
60 WINS
Someone needs to stop the Lakers this year - and hopefully that'll be the Cavs. If Kobe wins another ring, I'm going to puke.
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Atlanta Hawks vs Cleveland Cavaliers HQ April 2, 2010
Cleveland Cavaliers vs Boston Celtics April 4, 2010
download it here
enjoy watching guyz
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The Cleveland Cavaliers clinched the best record in the league, and they are gonna have the HC advantage in the playoffs.
60 WINS
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Originally posted by mvblair View PostRight now the Cavs are stacked at the center position: Z, Shaq, Hickson, Varejao...those are all big boys. Kaun was great at Kansas and is playing very well in Europe. I wouldn't be surprised to see get a small contract on an NBA team someday, but it won't happen with the Cavs anytime soon, unfortunately. Still, it looks like he's putting on some big muscles, doesn't it?
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