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    History of Wallyball



    Wallyball was invented in Calabasas, CA, in the summer of 1979 by Joe Garcia. The sport was created to provide racquetball club owners with an alternative use for empty courts due to the decline in the popularity of racquetball.

    Wallyball seems to be most popular in the Midwest and East, where the weather drives people indoors looking for fun and exercise, although San Diego has one of the largest year round wallyball programs in the world. Probably the most famous wallyball players of all time were President George Bush, who gave up his horseshoes for wallyball during his presidency and his son President George W. Bush. Click here to read about "Presidential Wallyball".

    Joe spent a lot of time and energy traveling around the country promoting his new sport. As a result of his tireless efforts, wallyball exists today giving pleasure to millions of players world wide.

    Joe eventually sold his rights to the game to Mike O'Hara, a businessman and former Olympic men's volleyball player. Mike then created Wallyball International Inc. (WII) and set out to sanction tournaments and leagues throughout the United States.

    In 1989, some members of the executive committee of WII disagreed with the direction Mike was taking the sport, so they broke with Mike and formed the American Wallyball Association (AWA). Rudy Morel, the leader of the AWA was one of these individuals. The AWA and the WII were now competing organizations.

    In the past, both organizations held State Championship tournaments in many states, and both held separate National Championship tournaments each year. The AWA also hosted international tournaments in a variety of other countries.

    Up until 2002, it both organizations were pretty passive.

    The WII sponsored just the single tournament most years. I recently (4/01) talked with Mike O'Hara about his plans for the sport and Mike admitted that he has hit a stone wall in his attempts to promote the sport further.

    Mike stated that it takes sponsors (read "money") to effectively promote the sport and over the years he has been in contact with lots of potential sponsors. However, he believes that the sport is not conducive to being broadcast on TV. Therefore, it's not possible to reach out to a large audience, something a sponsor needs to sell it's products. So the WII will not be doing anything to promote the sport other than host an occasional "National Championship Tournament".

    The AWA has tried to set itself up as a clearing house for wallyball information worldwide, and they sell wallyball related supplies and equipment. However, if you check out their web site, you will find old, outdated information. Very little effort is being expended in maintenance of the site - except for the area where products are being sold.

    The AWA advertises several local tournaments throughout the year, and they offer financial support to a few tournaments each year. But in recent years they have not been successful in ensuring that there are separate State Championship Tournaments, and they don't sponsor a National Championship Tournament each year. This is unfortunate as there are many of us that love to compete with, and against, "new opponents" in tournaments and leagues.

    In 2001, Joe Garcia re-surfaced with the desire to pick up where he left off. Joe really wants wallyball to grow and become a more popular sport. Joe's eventual goal is to make wallyball an Olympic event.

    Joe tried to partner with Rudy Morel and Mike O'Hara in an effort to focus all three organization's efforts toward promoting the sport. But Joe's efforts were strongly opposed by both Mike O'Hara and Rudy Morel. It's hard to accept that these two individuals that have had such a presence in the sport in the past are opposing plans to grow the sport.

    Rudy's reasons are fairly obvious. He needs to protect his company from competition. The AWA sells wallyball equipment, and if competition exists, profits go down.

    As for Mike's reasons,.......it's probably just a grudge between former partners.

    In May of 2001 Joe debuted a new wallyball website. This was his first step in putting together a coalition of wallyball players that will be willing to volunteer some of their time and professional expertise to get the ball rolling.

    In November of 2001 a new wallyball association was born. The Association of United Wallyball Players (AUWP) came alive with a new website in March of 2002. This is a non-profit Association that is truly devoted to the players.

    You will never guess what happened next!

    Late in 2002 Rudy Morel and Mike O'Hara agreed to jointly sponsor the next WII National Championship Tournament scheduled in New York in March of 2003.

    Of course one of the big questions players wanted answered had to do with the rules to be used in the tournament. Both the AWA and the WII have published rule books, and the rules differ in some respects. One of the biggest differences concerned the legality of blocking the serve. The AWA rules don't allow blocking the serve, while the WII rules do allow it. In the end, they decided to use the WII rules.

    What might have been the catalyst that caused these two long term adversaries to jointly sponsor a tournament?

    It's generally accepted that the advent of the AUWP is what brought these two individuals back together. Time will tell if the relationship sticks, but it appears that the AUWP has shown both of them that they need to get proactive and start building the sport again. They appear to be content being the AUWP's competitor for now. But most loyal wallyball addicts most likely hope that this is just another step toward the eventual unification of the three organizations.

    Tachikara, the world's largest producer of volleyballs, took note of the goals and management of the AUWP and agreed to partner with the new association. Tachikara produced a new line of wallyballs for the AUWP. For the first time, wallyball will be played with a multi-colored ball (players can't get away with bad set's anymore).

    In addition, Tachikara developed an eighteen panel wallyball (the first of it's kind), and tests have shown that the ball is a big improvement over the twelve panel balls. Players love the feel of the new ball, especially when setting the ball.

    Tachikara has also produced a new wallyball net for the AUWP.

    The Original Ball Bag company also took note of the AUWP and they agreed to underwrite the cost of the new AUWP rule book. A new ball bag will be produced for wallyball players. This new bag will join the current product line that includes ball bags for the NBA, Disney, McDonalds and others.

    If you love the sport of wallyball, you may be just the person we are looking for. We will be asking for help from volunteers to take on a variety of projects. I have to tell you that this Association has HUGE plans. I back it 100%, and I'm sure that once you have seen what is planned, and understand how it will benefit you, you will want to become involved.
    Last edited by luuij_ss; 09-11-2008, 05:20 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by luuij_ss
    George kenny and Jashaun Agosto
    It's Kenny George.
    Jashaun is still a kid (who knows what the future might bring him) and Kenny George might as well end up as a mere gentle giant. They are no prospects at all imo (especially Jashaun).
    Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
    Artificial Nature

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    • #3
      Kenny George:

      Size and strength are only a part of the requirements for a good center. Being 7"7 doesn't mean he will be great in the NBA. His comparison is Gheorghe Muresan.. The guy who got dunked in his face like a million times. Maybe Tyler Hansbrough's dunk on George foreshadows his career?

      The other guy:

      He's 11 years old. It's just ridiculous to say that he will be great in the NBA at this age.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pistol Pete
        His comparison is Gheorghe Muresan.
        Hey man, Murhesan was pretty good! He could start on a lot of NBA teams today. I just hope that Kenny George has a good, productive life, with or without basketball. I seem to recall he wasn't even interested in playing basketball professionally. I think he was studying film.
        "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mvblair
          Hey man, Murhesan was pretty good!
          True. He was not just a giant, he had some skills. And mind you he had a disease, like George, he was not like Sabas, Yao and others, so he did pretty good.
          Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
          Artificial Nature

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          • #6
            Originally posted by luuij_ss
            George kenny and Jashaun Agosto
            first, the title of thread is stupid

            second of all, kenny george doesnt start for his college team and ur expecting him to be 1 of the greatest 2 nba prospects in this century? u cant be serious

            third of all, its not the first kid that i see at his age with such skills
            go to youtube and type something like 11 years baller or something, im sure u will see a lot

            its too early to know what this kid will turn out to be, what if he had injuries that hindered his improvement? it happens all the time btw

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mvblair
              Hey man, Murhesan was pretty good!
              I'm not saying he was a bad player but this guy said George is the "best prospect of the century" and I cannot recall Muresan being anywhere close of an allstar player.

              Originally posted by luuij_ss
              (I was talking about his future) LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
              Lol at you for interpreting my words your own way

              Originally posted by luuij_ss
              and even me
              Not too shy, are we?

              Originally posted by lluuij_ss
              Trevor Ariza dunk on Ben Wallace
              Ben Wallace is ovverated IMO and a different subject, but anyway he doesn't have a TOP 10 video of "Dunks on Gheorghe Muresan".

              Anyway, Charbel Sakr has summed it up. That's what I wanted to say. My main idea was that such exceptional height does not mean that you're going to dominate people. From what I've seen of him, he's quite slow and doesn't possess good reflexes at all. His main skill is probably dunking without jumping. If the 3 second rule wouldn't exist, maybe he would be the MVP.

              And I still support my idea that it's ridiculous to talk anything serious about 11 year olds. All you can see is him dribbling the ball like the Harlem Globettroters. Maybe when he's about 16 we can see what he's really made of.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by luuij_ss
                George kenny and Jashaun Agosto
                people nowadays watch too much TV
                stop russia

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                • #9
                  luuij_ss is a very strange guy.

                  First he changed the first post of this thread from the original one to some article about wallyball and then he sent me this PM:

                  "Dude learn ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

                  I guess he can't take a discussion and is not ready for these forums...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pistol Pete
                    luuij_ss is a very strange guy.

                    First he changed the first post of this thread from the original one to some article about wallyball and then he sent me this PM:

                    "Dude learn ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

                    I guess he can't take a discussion and is not ready for these forums...
                    well there shouldnt be the option of editing a post after it has been replied to !!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pistol Pete
                      luuij_ss is a very strange guy.

                      First he changed the first post of this thread from the original one to some article about wallyball and then he sent me this PM:

                      "Dude learn ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

                      I guess he can't take a discussion and is not ready for these forums...
                      He did that to u too?

                      He actually sent me a PM saying:

                      "AL HALFORD IS NOT AMERICAN!!!!!!!" even though I wasn't the one who actually said it (I just posted the info. from an article I had read)

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