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  • Is the NBA competition system unfair?

    I think the issue was already discussed here, but I'm not sure. The thing is we come across players, some the best basketball ever produced, that never won anything in their lives (putting international competitions aside that is, and even not so there are plenty). Isn't this unfair?

    Imo the competition system NBA established is unfair because only a minority of players will ever win a champiosnhip and the astronomical amount of games they have to play proves unglorious most of the times. Adding to that there are countless stars that never won anything and some crappy players with a couple of rings.

    OK, you might say sports is not about fairness or unfairness, it's just the way it is. I'll agree. But the current competition system promotes unfairness in an outrageous way.

    It's known that many leagues around the world have more than one competition, usually a Cup and sometimes a League Cup. The same club might win both or the three competitions, but chances for others to clinch them are also there.

    That said, why not create something similar to a Cup within the NBA? Some of the games played during regular season could be transferred to that Cup. That would not only decrease the unfairness mentioned, but also relief the championship itself which we all know get's boring at some point with too many games. Some new enthusiasm would also, therefore, be created.
    Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
    Artificial Nature

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    Originally posted by rikhardur
    ...Isn't this unfair?
    Yes.

    Imo the competition system NBA established is unfair because only a minority of players will ever win a champiosnhip and the astronomical amount of games they have to play proves unglorious most of the times. Adding to that there are countless stars that never won anything and some crappy players with a couple of rings.
    It's a fact of sporting life that some crappy players will always win championships. Fortunately, they usually "ride the coat-tails" of great players.

    The real unfairness of competition is the financial system in place, which is true for most leagues, right?
    It's known that many leagues around the world have more than one competition, usually a Cup and sometimes a League Cup. The same club might win both or the three competitions, but chances for others to clinch them are also there.

    That said, why not create something similar to a Cup within the NBA? Some of the games played during regular season could be transferred to that Cup. That would not only decrease the unfairness mentioned, but also relief the championship itself which we all know get's boring at some point with too many games. Some new enthusiasm would also, therefore, be created.
    I think you're on the right track here, Rick.

    I would actually try to make the conference/division championships more important than just getting home court advantage. Maybe the winners of each division should get a free/extra victory in each round of the play-offs. When two division winners play each other, the team with the better record gets the free/extra victory. Thus, a division winner is always up 1 game in any series.

    I think that with a Cup, we'd be creating the dual season that exists in most leagues and sports. Yes, it would be interesting, but then the possibility exists that there is no Finals, which would kill the TV networks.

    Many years ago, in the NCAA, winning the conference (the 10-20 local teams) was always very prestigious. Of course the national championship was important, but people still took quite a bit of prestige in the conference championship.
    "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rikhardur
      I think the issue was already discussed here, but I'm not sure. The thing is we come across players, some the best basketball ever produced, that never won anything in their lives (putting international competitions aside that is, and even not so there are plenty). Isn't this unfair?

      Imo the competition system NBA established is unfair because only a minority of players will ever win a champiosnhip and the astronomical amount of games they have to play proves unglorious most of the times. Adding to that there are countless stars that never won anything and some crappy players with a couple of rings.

      OK, you might say sports is not about fairness or unfairness, it's just the way it is. I'll agree. But the current competition system promotes unfairness in an outrageous way.

      It's known that many leagues around the world have more than one competition, usually a Cup and sometimes a League Cup. The same club might win both or the three competitions, but chances for others to clinch them are also there.

      That said, why not create something similar to a Cup within the NBA? Some of the games played during regular season could be transferred to that Cup. That would not only decrease the unfairness mentioned, but also relief the championship itself which we all know get's boring at some point with too many games. Some new enthusiasm would also, therefore, be created.
      It is not a question of fairness. If you create these other "championships" you take away their significance. If everyone is walking around with a ring, then what's the big deal. It should be difficult to attain.

      Also, no one really remembers back-up players who win championships, they remember the star players, so a crappy player with rings is still regarded as a crappy player. That doesn't mean they don't deserve the ring. Can we really say a back-up player contributed nothing to their team's success? Ask some championship coaches for their opinion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Waneko
        It is not a question of fairness. If you create these other "championships" you take away their significance. If everyone is walking around with a ring, then what's the big deal. It should be difficult to attain.
        I'm not talking about rings, I'm talking about winning a competition. A Cup is not a championship. The NBA title would retain it's current importance, there would just be a side tournament if you prefer.

        Originally posted by Waneko
        Also, no one really remembers back-up players who win championships, they remember the star players, so a crappy player with rings is still regarded as a crappy player. That doesn't mean they don't deserve the ring. Can we really say a back-up player contributed nothing to their team's success? Ask some championship coaches for their opinion.
        Hey there's a difference between a crappy player and a backup one (take Ginóbili as an example)
        About remembering players, ask Malone if he wanted to be famous or win a ring. I think you know the answer
        Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
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        • #5
          well i do agree with you on the financial part but not the idea that because there is lack of cups/rings to be won is unfair. I mean, the NBA is just like real life: a minority become rich/respected (ie, win championships) while most people remain the normal population (ie, don't win championships)

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          • #6
            What about the split in two conferences when teams like Denvers Nuggets will be left out of this season's play-offs because they just happen to be in the Western conference while if they were in the Eastern they would be one of the best...

            Originally posted by parso
            Gomelsky doesn't know @@@@ about basketball
            Originally posted by sseppel
            it's not asking too much for someone to know where the fuck he is.
            Originally posted by UMUT_FB_LAL
            Scola makes me wanna touch myself, no homo

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            • #7
              Well You must be one of the first who noticed this. NBA system is really ****** up. This Denver Nuggets case prooves it. I think that Playoff System is very Good, but season.. 82 games?

              Well Season is long so NBA could take more money from people.
              And it also not about winnings IMO. Ask people who won NBA title last year and most of them will not answer but ask what kind headband LeBron was wearing 5 days ago and every fan will answer to you.

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              • #8
                The most fair system is the one of the regular season, because every team plays each other. Would it change many things about the amount of players winning it? Not much... So, is there any really fair system. It is fair if everybody plays with the same rules. No?
                It's a bird? It's a plane? No, it's Rudy!

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                • #9
                  i hope denver does not make the playoff they have the two most selfish players in the world and shoot all the time i really hate this "team" its not even a team is iverson-melo nuggets.

                  nuggets team play:
                  iverson holds the ball for 20 second he either

                  a)pass to melo and shoots
                  b)shoots himself

                  the end..

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ArkadiosV2
                    What about the split in two conferences when teams like Denvers Nuggets will be left out of this season's play-offs because they just happen to be in the Western conference while if they were in the Eastern they would be one of the best...
                    Yes, that's pretty unfair. I mean, right now, the Magic and the Cavs are the #3 and #4 teams in the East. Where would they be in the West? It's been pretty bad for the past 10 years.
                    "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by damelo
                      It is fair if everybody plays with the same rules
                      You are absoloutly right


                      BD4President I agree with you too. They almost ripp the ball each time while playing. Watching AI playing with Selfishelo is pathetic. Nuggests played best game when Carmelo was inured and Kleiza came with 41 points.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Test
                        You are absoloutly right


                        BD4President I agree with you too. They almost ripp the ball each time while playing. Watching AI playing with Selfishelo is pathetic. Nuggests played best game when Carmelo was inured and Kleiza came with 41 points.
                        i agree with you kleiza, also najera ...i like their style of play .but they dont get many touches on the ball because of the "team" playbook.

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                        • #13
                          It's your right to disagree about a team's tactic and I respect it, but... in the end of the day it is the results that count and Denver is not playing bad basketball, after all they set a new scoring record of the past 20 seasons!

                          A good solution could be to reduce the play-offs spots by 1 from both conferences and award these 2 spots to the teams with the best record overall, from both conferences... something like the best 6th team of Euroleague regular season...
                          Last edited by ArkadiosV2; 03-26-2008, 12:04 AM.

                          Originally posted by parso
                          Gomelsky doesn't know @@@@ about basketball
                          Originally posted by sseppel
                          it's not asking too much for someone to know where the fuck he is.
                          Originally posted by UMUT_FB_LAL
                          Scola makes me wanna touch myself, no homo

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                          • #14
                            Too complicated... EL is ways too complicated to have the public really implied in it.
                            It's a bird? It's a plane? No, it's Rudy!

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