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  • Test
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    Ok 20 voters and many opinions here. Looks like Kandi Man won the vote by more than 50%. Also people agreed that Kwame did not played as well as expected. Bogut plays not so good for 1st pick but he is still young and maybe one day he will show what he can.
    I made mistake putting Andrea Bargnani on the list, bobody voted for him, that means he is young and he got plenty of time.

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  • mvblair
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    Originally posted by Saskibaloia
    Concerning Bogut, though I am an Australian-Filipino and I love watching this guy play, I am expecting bigger numbers and bigger wins this seasons for the Bucks. Hence, if that does not occur I am having my doubts about my fellow countryman. Basically, I want to see definitely 15ppg 10rpg & 2bpg and the Bucks racking up at least a 45 win season.
    Yes, I would like to see Bogut playing a little better too. Well, he's averaging 13 points, 8 rebounds, and 2 blocks right now, so he's not far off (and 50% shooting).
    Whether or not Bogut becomes a bust you have to agree with the Bucks management that Bogut by far was the choice they HAD to make.
    No question. In fact, Chris Paul and Deron Williams (two players picked after Bogut), are very good players for their teams, but Milwaukee at the time, as you said, still doesn't need a guard, so I would make that pick again. Bogut is a big, young kid. He's only 23 and he's gotten better every year, so I think he was a good pick.

    Milwaukee plays Cleveland tonight, so I'm happy that I get to watch the game! I'll give a report on him in the Bogut thread after I see it.

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  • Gytaz
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    Originally posted by Lebron23
    Darko Milicic
    He was a second pick, after you know who.

    I agree with everyone saying that Olowokandi is the most disappointing 1st pick.

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  • thadzonline
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    Yao has so far rebounded from such a sorry performance..and is doing well the past few years, and even started for an All-Star team(oh well, thanks to the Asian votes)

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  • Nikoo
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    Kandi Man and its not even close. Bogut is a solid NBA center, Kwame is top10 post defender and Bargs is young(I dont like how he plays in his second season btw.)

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  • RayV
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    Ahhh so that's why joel put Yao on the bust list, basing it on their debut game... IMO, it should be based on how successful is the player's career... heck, it should even be the other way around with Yao having the most success so far... but, hey these guys are still young (except for the hopeless Kandi Man) and can still prove their worth being a 1st overall pick...

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  • Juan Carlos Nadal
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    Originally posted by joel23
    He got 0pt on his first game in NBA(2002).

    Yao got 0pt and 10 turnovers on his first NBA game as rookie. If should be the worst nba game statistics of all no. 1 pick player in NBA history. No other no. 1 pick rookie to scored less than 2pts and more TO in a game. Only Yao when as a rookie scored scoreless with 2rebs and 10 TOs.
    This is not a thread about the worse debut of a No1 draftee. You cannot say that Yao is a dissappointment judging on his first game (or even handful of games). He has been posting superb numbers since his first year and until now.

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  • joel23
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    Originally posted by mvblair
    What!? Joel, Yao is scoring 20+ points, 10+ rebounds, 2+ blocks, and shooting 50%+ on the year. That's awesome, man!

    He got 0pt on his first game in NBA(2002).

    Yao got 0pt and 10 turnovers on his first NBA game as rookie. If should be the worst nba game statistics of all no. 1 pick player in NBA history. No other no. 1 pick rookie to scored less than 2pts and more TO in a game. Only Yao when as a rookie scored scoreless with 2rebs and 10 TOs.
    Last edited by Juan Carlos Nadal; 12-17-2007, 03:41 AM.

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  • thadzonline
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    Funny how one can say Yao is a bust..Maybe they said so, becuase they expected Yao to be something different from what he is now..But Yao has good naumbers statistically

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  • Phantim3dx
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    who is this Michael Olo-what's his name?

    I tihnk you know my vote on this one

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  • Saskibaloia
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    Originally posted by mvblair

    Bogut and Bargani are still young and have had good seasons so far.

    That is true especially with Bargnani. You can see that he will eventually become a "Dirk Nowitzki" type player alongside the inside game of Chris Bosh.

    Concerning Bogut, though I am an Australian-Filipino and I love watching this guy play, I am expecting bigger numbers and bigger wins this seasons for the Bucks. Hence, if that does not occur I am having my doubts about my fellow countryman. Basically, I want to see definitely 15ppg 10rpg & 2bpg and the Bucks racking up at least a 45 win season.

    Whether or not Bogut becomes a bust you have to agree with the Bucks management that Bogut by far was the choice they HAD to make. In that draft class you look at the other 4 top picks alongside the "Bogey Man" (a Power Forward/ Small Forward and 3 point guards) and you can see that the Bucks did not need a forward or a point guard. They already had TJ Ford at the point. Now which starting five makes more sense, Joe Smith, Marvin Williams, Desmond Mason, Michael Redd, TJ Ford OR Andrew Bogut, Joe Smith, Desmond Mason, Michael Redd, TJ Ford. If you need a centre you get a centre you don't get a small forward who played the power forward position in college
    Last edited by Saskibaloia; 12-16-2007, 10:01 PM.

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  • elaj
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    Olowokandi is far worst, but in my opinion Bogut and Brown aren't far behind him.

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  • Saskibaloia
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    Going slightly off the topic

    Originally posted by Test
    NBA Draft 1998:


    3. Denver Raef LaFrentz Kansas
    6. Dallas Robert Traylor Michigan
    9. Milwaukee Dirk Nowitzki DJK Wurzburg (Germany)

    Just going slightly off the topic ... is anyone out there, like myself who thought that the former All American PF/C from the University of Kansas would be a superstar?

    And here is my favourite ... Tractor trailer for the mysterious kid from Germany

    Guess where Tractor Traylor is? ... Puerto Rico. Though I would rather be in the NBA and make heaps of $$$, I wouldn't mind playing in Puerto Rico in front of all those good looking Puerto Rican ladies while listening to the latest Reggaeton beats


    However, looking from the perspective of the Bucks organisation. The advantages of obtaining the former University of Michigan star was a safer bet because you have seen the big man develop slowly throughout his years in Michigan and on top of that you know that this Big Man has been used to playing in a stlye of play that is easier for him to adjust to the NBA than from a unknown kid who has been playing overseas and may find the adjustment to the NBA quite difficult. Do you go for the kid full of potential or do you go for the safe choice? Of course it is easier to comment now but then many manager would rather take the safer pick than the gamble.

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  • rikhardur
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    Originally posted by joel23
    It should put Yao Ming on the list.
    Yeah right
    Olowokandi by far of course.

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  • CigaretteBurns
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    Yeah, that guy who averages 20/10/2/2 and was an MVP candidate last season is a bust.

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