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  • Neozyrus
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    Note from the FEB (Spanish federation)

    Watching the news appeared in the different mass media in relation to the supposed demand of the Toronto Raptors to the FEB for the claim of some quantities for Jorge Garbajosas's injury, this FEB wants to clarify:

    1) At the date of today the FEB does not have any notification about the presentation of any demand against the FEB by Toronto Raptors

    2) The FEB has expired scrupulously with the requirements that the franchise requested to the FEB signing the policy of the assurance wished by the Raptors and that was agreed last September 2, 2007.

    3) Since the subscription of the mentioned policy, the FEB has not received any requirement for the payment of the quantitiesagreed in the policy, as it might not be otherwise, since the FEB already did the payment of the policy, not stemming any other type of obligations with the NBA team.

    4) The FEB always will collaborate in the satisfactory resolution of the interests of the implied parts.

    5) The FEB wishes the prompt recovery of the player Jorge Garbajosa as well as the biggest sports successes for him and for the Toronto Raptors.

    6) Finally, in order not to affect the normal functioning of the events, the FEB will abstain from realizing more declarations.

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  • DanMajerle
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    Honestly, as I already posted some months ago, I think the reason Garbajosa was "injured" and had to have a suergery was that Toronto wanted to have the insurance money. Garbajosa was declared inactive a few days before the injury insuance ended and it was declared he had to have a surgery.

    Now they are showing their true face and demand some money from the spanish basketball federation.

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  • mvblair
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    Originally posted by Neozyrus
    ...But he has been smart enough to accept that the players he has are really good and he has found ways to make the team work pretty good (tough he sometimes commits huge mistakes, as he did in the last game against Washington for example), and thats somthing that also deserves some recognition.
    Yes! That's exactly it. He's accepting his talent and he uses that talent very well.
    For example if in the pre-season Colangelo would have asked him, what do u prefer, Delfino or D. Stevenson (for example), i really have many doubts about what could have been his answer.
    I think you're probably right, Zyrus.
    And im sorry to look like some kind of conspiracies-addict here, but i still have some questions about the Garbo's issue in the first matches of the season, even if he was truly injuried.
    I don't know what was being said by Garbo to the Spanish media and so forth, so I can't really comment. It seems to me that Garbo was simply injured and couldn't play as well as he should be able to play.

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  • Neozyrus
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    In fact i agree quite a lot with Robbe, i wont say he's against europeans, but i still have the impression that he would like sometimes another kind of players, and that sometimes, for some reasons we probably dont know, he doesnt give the same opportunities to all the players (I couldnt agree more in the Rasho statement). But he has been smart enough to accept that the players he has are really good and he has found ways to make the team work pretty good (tough he sometimes commits huge mistakes, as he did in the last game against Washington for example), and thats somthing that also deserves some recognition.

    For example if in the pre-season Colangelo would have asked him, what do u prefer, Delfino or D. Stevenson (for example), i really have many doubts about what could have been his answer.

    And im sorry to look like some kind of conspiracies-addict here, but i still have some questions about the Garbo's issue in the first matches of the season, even if he was truly injuried.

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  • Joško Poljak Fan
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    just a thought for consideration.
    How to justify a system where Jason Kapono gets to shoot 14 3 pointers in 08' and Jamario Moon gets to shoot 56 of them in the same period?

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  • mvblair
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    Originally posted by robbe
    ...I don't think he hates Euros. He just doesn't know how to use them. And the fact that Nesterovic gets so few minutes when both Bosh and Bargnani are fit is just horrible. Nesterovic is still great and the only player on the Raptors that brings some toughness. Nothing against Parker and Calderon ... excellent basketball players technically, but won't bring the dirtyness that this team imo needs. With Nesterovic logging only 5-15 minutes per game (I know he's playing more with Bosh out) and Garbajosa out for the season, this is really only a bunch of jumpshooters that won't make it deep in the postseason. Garbajosa was a key player to last years success imo. As was Rasho.
    I agree with you about Rasho. Both Bargnani and Bosh are, frankly, "weak" players. I don't mean that in a bad way (I really don't!), but neither of them can take a whole lot of contact. Rasho is the opposite. He does much better when players are climbing on his shoulders, if you know what I mean. He's more like Charles Oakley than Peja Stojakovic.

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  • robbe
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    Originally posted by mvblair
    What do you guys think? Is Sam Mitchell still "against" European players?
    What are his alternatives? Colangelo gets him the players. He has to utilise them. And he can't just let Joey Graham and Derrick Martin play instead of Parker and Calderon.

    I don't think he hates Euros. He just doesn't know how to use them. And the fact that Nesterovic gets so few minutes when both Bosh and Bargnani are fit is just horrible. Nesterovic is still great and the only player on the Raptors that brings some toughness. Nothing against Parker and Calderon ... excellent basketball players technically, but won't bring the dirtyness that this team imo needs. With Nesterovic logging only 5-15 minutes per game (I know he's playing more with Bosh out) and Garbajosa out for the season, this is really only a bunch of jumpshooters that won't make it deep in the postseason. Garbajosa was a key player to last years success imo. As was Rasho.

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  • mvblair
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    I'd like to revisit this topic of whether or not Sam Mitchell is "good" to his European players. In last night's Toronto loss to Washington, Mitchell's top 3 scorers were "European": Bargani, Calderon, and Delfino (he played in Europe, so according to us Yanks, he's a European). They were also the top 3 Raptors in minutes played. Last night's game was not a fluke. A Raptor games recently reveals that the Raptors top statistical players are the European players (with Parker, who fits our Yank definition of Euro, in there too). Bosh is still by far Toronto's top scorer, but the European players are getting plenty of minutes and plenty of good statistics.

    I know that everyone was concerned about Garbajosa, whose minutes were very erratic earlier, but he was injured. In hindsight, was Mitchell right about Garbajosa? It appears that, yes, he was right about Garbajosa. And it also appears that all year, the European players have been excelling: Calderon is playing like an All-Star, Nesterovic is getting rebounds and playing great D, Bargnani is looking like the advertised draft pick, and Delfino is showing everyone the he could start on many NBA teams. And Parker, under Mitchell, has by far proven that he belongs in the NBA.

    What do you guys think? Is Sam Mitchell still "against" European players?

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  • jugoplastika
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    Originally posted by Richey666
    Luckily Raptors dont have "European" style of play, or they would lose all games with 20+points like best team of Europe did.
    Remember, in October, 2 months ago, the result was:

    ACB Spanish league clubs vs NBA clubs: 2-1

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  • Neozyrus
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    Its just curious that this guy that apparently seems to know so little about the european basket, is training the team with probably more europeans or "european-style" players.

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  • Richey666
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    Luckily Raptors dont have "European" style of play, or they would lose all games with 20+points like best team of Europe did.

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  • robbe
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    Originally posted by DanMajerle
    "I feel insulted when I hear that," Mitchell said. "I don’t see NBA players wanting to get out of their contract to play in Europe. you don’t see college kids leaving school early to play in Europe. Nothing against Europe, but this is our game … You watch European basketball and all they want to do is play like we play. All they want to do is dunk the ball."
    Oh my. I'm starting to feel sorry for this guy.

    Still I think there is nothing "European" about the Raptors' style of play. There might be players whose interpretation of their roles is "European" style, but speaking of the Raptors' systems, that is NBA style at its purest.

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  • mvblair
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    Originally posted by DanMajerle
    "I feel insulted when I hear that," Mitchell said. "I don’t see NBA players wanting to get out of their contract to play in Europe. you don’t see college kids leaving school early to play in Europe. Nothing against Europe, but this is our game … You watch European basketball and all they want to do is play like we play. All they want to do is dunk the ball."
    For the record, that quote is coming from the Toronto Sun newspaper (I followed the link from the Euroball site) under the headline Euro Trash.

    I liked the one marked in bold . He's really a real observer of basketball
    Wow. Wow. I really don't know what to say. I've tried to defend Sam Mitchell, but this comment is just, well, just wrong! It's wrong for two reasons: 1) he says that all Americans want to dunk the ball, and 2) he says that all Europeans want to dunk the ball.

    I think that a lot of young players, no matter where they are from, want to do the cool dunks and look pretty. That's true for youngsters like Bargani and Humphries on the Raptors. But most players, as they mature, move past the "Slam Dunk Contest" phase. Two European Raptors in that category are Anthony Parker and Jorge Garbajosa. Other mature guys like Grant Hill and Ginobili are wonderful dunkers, but they continue to work on other parts of their game: specifically play-making for both of them. That makes them much more valuable players.

    So, I think Sam Mitchell could say "all young players want to do is dunk" -- and he would be partly right (although some youngsters have never had the need to come into the league with a dunk-based game, like Danny Granger or Beno Udrih).

    But also, to say that when European players dunk, they want to be American, is just silly. I think that most players who can dunk on a given play will do so, just because it's a high-percentage field goal. That doesn't mean that everytime Andres Nocioni or Marko Jaric or Shane Battier dunk the ball, they're trying to imitate those great, Championship-winning American players like Fred Jones and Gerald Green that every coach would kill to have on their team.

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  • DanMajerle
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    "The Brain" talks again :

    Now we found out through the Toronto Sun that he even feels insulted when you try to tell Sam Mitchell they are playing European-style basketball:


    "I feel insulted when I hear that," Mitchell said. "I don’t see NBA players wanting to get out of their contract to play in Europe. you don’t see college kids leaving school early to play in Europe. Nothing against Europe, but this is our game … You watch European basketball and all they want to do is play like we play. All they want to do is dunk the ball."

    I liked the one marked in bold . He's really a real observer of basketball

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  • Lebron23
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    I think the Raptors find a gem, when they signed an undrafted Free Agent during the off season named Jamario Moon.





    Jamario Moon: Man with a Mission


    He attended Meridian Community College where he averaged 20.8 points per game and 8.7 rebounds. Moon entered the 2001 NBA Draft but failed to be drafted by any team in the NBA.

    After he had impressed in a three-day mini-camp held by the team, then he was offered a two-year deal with the Toronto Raptors
    Lists of draftees in the 2001 NBA Draft


    NBA Draft scouting reports, mock drafts, articles on NBA Draft Prospects. Extensive high school, NCAA and international NBA draft coverage.




    I think Moon would be the modern day version of Ben Wallace, an NBA player that became undrafted in the 1996 NBA Draft, and during his prime he became one of the best defender in the history of the NBA winning an NBA title in 2004, and becoming a 4 time NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

    He is one of my favorite Rookie in the NBA, and his life is such an inspiring story because he has been given a chance to play in the NBA. I hope he fulfill his dreams, and become one of the best role player in the history of the league.

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