Lebron 2018 Free Agency

[CHBB]

The next intelligent thing Cowherd says about sports will be the first one.

[usagre]

It sounds like a LeBron, Kawhi, Paul George union is a real possibility in LA.
The first step will be a trade for Leonard for a combination of Ball, Kuzma, Ingram,
and draft pick. You put those three two way stars on the same team and Golden State has met their match.

[Jazz]

I think the real question here is what this all means for LiAngelo Ball and where he is playing next season.

[usagre]

If the triumvirate of LeBron-Kawhi-Paul George is actually formed it would mean the best player in the world will be playing with the best player he has ever played with (Leonard) by a mile. It would also mean that Paul George as the third best player would be far better than Chris Bosh or Kevin Love. You add that all up and I think it spells Championships for the Lakers.

[Shawshank]

Sad to see how money changed really good kid Kawhi...If im Spurs im not taking Lonzo and his idiot father, but without both kuzma and ingram im not trading Leonard to Lakers.

If Lakers offers kuzma, ingram and bad deng contract im considering it.Atleast i get 2 really good promissing young athletes and begin rebuilt .

If Lakers are not giving those 2 young kids, spurs should trade kawhi to eastern conference.

Spurs will not panic as cavs did with irving, wont take shitty offer. They have Leonard under contract and after what he did last season i wouldnt be suprised if they gonna trade him to a bad team.

Wade in 2010 at age of 28 wasnt behind todays after injury Leonard.Atleast not by a mile.Wade was also true finals mvp .I would argue Wade would have proven more in playoffs till age of 28 than kawhi did till his today age of 27.

Wade was also top 7 nba player in 2006-2010 in most people eyes like today Leonard is considered.Dwayne both years 2009 and 2010 was first all nba team member before join forces with Lebron after 2010 season.

But yeah if Lakers gets all 3 Lebron, Leonard and George would be seriuos title contenders.

[CHBB]

I completely disagree. Kawhi was the biggest reason by far that the Spurs won in 2014 as opposed to Wade being simply what put his incredibly strong team over the top.

What the Spurs should do is demand picks with that because Ingram is a joke. They should also demand Hart and Thomas Bryant. Hart would make Green replaceable and Bryant would give them the strong true five they've been missing for so many years. Or maybe Zubac even.

If I'm Kawhi, no way I re-sign on the Lakers though. He's a better player than PG will ever be and arguably better than LeBron when healthy but he'll likely be the third option because of PG's inflated ego.

[usagre]

I agree I don’t see anyway Popovich and the Spurs would want to deal with Lonzo Ball’s father. But as you say with Kuzma, Ingram, maybe even a sign and trade with Randle the Lakers have the pieces.

I disagree about the Spurs not panicking. They can’t send him to a bad team for any true value since Kawhi can tell that team there is no chance of resigning. If they don’t get something decent back they will look like fools. I think the incentive is there for the Lakers to overpay since they know that Leonard will resign. Or if San Antonio refuses they can say fine we will keep all of our young pieces and then add Leonard in a year as a free agent without giving up anything.

I disagree that Leonard was changed by money. If it’s money he wants San Antonio with a super max deal can offer more and blow every other team out of the water. It appears that he feels San Antonio changed their attitude towards him when he sought a second opinion on his injury. Or maybe he’s just sick of playing for a personality type like Greg Popovich.

I think Dwyane Wade 2011-2014 postseasons is not Champion Wade from 5 years earlier. A really good player but not the same. Leonard 2016-2017 was at worst the fourth best player in the entire league and you can argue maybe as high as second.

[usagre]

The more I think about I am convinced that LeBron, Paul George and Magic Johnson have already talked and decided that they will play for the Lakers next year. The only variables are who will join them.

Kawhi by trade ?

Chris Paul ?

Or I wouldn’t discount holding on to all of their young pieces to start the season and then making a blockbuster mid season trade.

[Shawshank]

Remember in december Lebron turns 34, if wait one more season with Leonard...James will be 35...Lakers also cant wait too long .There will come time when lebrons game will begin decline usually it happens for superstars who take care of their body well around 34-35.

No way heat in 2006 without wade is better than 2014 spurs without kawhi.What Wade did in 2006 was far more impressive than what Leonard did in 2014 finals.Duncan had seriuos shot in 2014 finals mvp race.

Spurs were favorites in 2014 final, Heat were underdogs in 2006 nba finals.

How Wade played in 2005-2010 before joining James for me was atleast at same level as Leonard did 2013-2018.I would even give edge to Dwayne the men always show up in big games.

Some people forget how good dwade was before joining Lebron in 2010.

[usagre]

Yeah but a LeBron decline would mean less scoring and more playmaking, especially if he has the weapons to pass the ball to. I don’t see a LeBron scoring 30+ with such a group. Rather around 20 with 10 rebounds and 10-12 assists per game.
Basically turning into Magic Johnson for his final years.

You are stretching out the careers of Wade and Leonard and comparing resumes. That’s not the issue. It’s about who Wade was in 2011-2014 and who Kawhi is now. Not what they were before. And I think if Kawhi is over the injury he is far superior to Wade in those years. Leonard finished top 3 in MVP voting for back to back seasons.

[usagre]

If I am Boston I try to trade for Kawhi but I don’t give up any young pieces. Too risky considering you are renting Kawhi for a year. What I do is offer Kyrie Irving straight up. They are in similar positions and will probably walk after one year.

[Shawshank]

The more I think about I am convinced that LeBron, Paul George and Magic Johnson have already talked and decided that they will play for the Lakers next year. The only variables are who will join them.

Kawhi by trade ?

Chris Paul ?

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I agree about that 100%.B.Scott former Magics buddy teammate already was saying on tv months ago about that nobody believed or took it seriuosly.

Magic Johnson most likely already have made a deal with Lebron and George behind doors .Now they figuring it out who will be 3rd big 3 member.

But their title window is max 2-3 years because of Lebron age, so for them wait one more season for kawhi is big deal.They must go and get him now, not in 2019 or go with 33 years old star Chris Paul now.

Nobody know how leonard will look after injury and basically playing 9 games in 1.5 year...are sure he will play better being only 2 option to lebron than dwade look? Nobody knows that so i disagree about by a mile better that Kawhi would best lebron teammate.Give more respect for 3rd best shooting guard in modern era.Playing with Lebron is not easy by no means.

[CHBB]

No way in hell do I do that trade if I'm the Spurs. They're under no obligation to trade him.

This has not been discussed by anybody but assuming PG is likely to walk, what about OKC trading for Kawhi? Him next to Russ is a nightmare for opposing teams and gives them a guy who unlike "Playoff P" is not a myth. The only question is how do they get it done but remember, OKC has some pieces. It would be very difficult to beat out an offer from the Clippers, Lakers, or Sixers though.

[CHBB]

Remember in december Lebron turns 34, if wait one more season with Leonard...James will be 35...Lakers also cant wait too long .There will come time when lebrons game will begin decline usually it happens for superstars who take care of their body well around 34-35.

No way heat in 2006 without wade is better than 2014 spurs without kawhi.What Wade did in 2006 was far more impressive than what Leonard did in 2014 finals.Duncan had seriuos shot in 2014 finals mvp race.

Spurs were favorites in 2014 final, Heat were underdogs in 2006 nba finals.

How Wade played in 2005-2010 before joining James for me was atleast at same level as Leonard did 2013-2018.I would even give edge to Dwayne the men always show up in big games.

Some people forget how good dwade was before joining Lebron in 2010.

A few things....

You must be forgetting how strong that Heat team was. Some of the best role players of that era. Posey, Mourning off the bench, Damon Jones I believe... It was a strong team.

The Spurs were not favorites in 2014. The whole country expected the Heat to win. Kawhi turned that on its head.

Wade has never been the same player since he had the injury issues in 2006-07. It was looking like he wouldn't even be in the NBA his knees were so bad. 03-06 Wade maybe but not since '07.

[eshmawi]

If the triumvirate of LeBron-Kawhi-Paul George is actually formed it would mean the best player in the world will be playing with the best player he has ever played with (Leonard) by a mile. It would also mean that Paul George as the third best player would be far better than Chris Bosh or Kevin Love. You add that all up and I think it spells Championships for the Lakers.

I prefer Cousins to George.

Cousins
Lebron
Leonard
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I dont think 3 SF going to work.George - Lebron - Leonard. You need a center.