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  • #31
    Originally posted by CHBB View Post
    and IT was by far their biggest trade asset other than the Brooklyn pick.
    He actually has no trade value whatsoever. He's undersized and damaged and is a free agent next year. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers actually buy him out. You don't want that guy anywhere near a young developing team.
    Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by usagre View Post
      He actually has no trade value whatsoever. He's undersized and damaged and is a free agent next year. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers actually buy him out. You don't want that guy anywhere near a young developing team.
      Exactly. The idea behind getting Isiah is just to clear the bad contracts off the books. They are freeing up cap space, and they are going to give Isiah a run till the end of the season. They will evaluate him and see whether he can get back to his Boston form and if they think he can, they will offer him a midrange deal (18mil or so). He can test the market or take that. They will not be bitter anyway, since they are rebuilding and he would be a placeholder anyway.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by usagre View Post
        He actually has no trade value whatsoever. He's undersized and damaged and is a free agent next year. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers actually buy him out. You don't want that guy anywhere near a young developing team.
        I completely disagree.

        He's one of the best scorers in the game. He's shown that in a few games since coming back, and he's still shaking the rust off.

        He might be coming off of an injury but he's a bonafide superstar. Those don't grow on trees.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
          I wouldn't wish Mudiay on my worst enemy. Starting from his decision making, lack of court vision and shooting. To add to that, his defense has been a huge disappointment. That element was supposed to make easy transition to NBA level for him, which is just not the case.

          He doesn't really have a great basketball IQ, that is something that is a must at PG position.
          That's ridiculous.

          He's shooting better this year, for one. I've seen him be an excellent passer, and defense and decision-making are things that can be taught.

          I look forward to seeing him show what he can really do when not having to defer to guys like Gary Harris and Jamal Murray and having his detractors have to eat their words. The kid has the kind of talent that can't be taught or acquired.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by CHBB View Post
            That's ridiculous.

            He's shooting better this year, for one. I've seen him be an excellent passer, and defense and decision-making are things that can be taught.

            I look forward to seeing him show what he can really do when not having to defer to guys like Gary Harris and Jamal Murray and having his detractors have to eat their words. The kid has the kind of talent that can't be taught or acquired.
            Like you Buddy Hield story Or are we still waiting on that one until 2025?

            He is a FA. Teams don't want to give him a huge contract due to his injury, non-existant defense and ONE SEASON where he was among NBA elite.

            He is not a superstar. He has played ONE season in a system that suited him. He is a fringe all star player/scorer all of his career.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
              Like you Buddy Hield story Or are we still waiting on that one until 2025?

              He is a FA. Teams don't want to give him a huge contract due to his injury, non-existant defense and ONE SEASON where he was among NBA elite.

              He is not a superstar. He has played ONE season in a system that suited him. He is a fringe all star player/scorer all of his career.
              Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
              Like you Buddy Hield story Or are we still waiting on that one until 2025?

              He is a FA. Teams don't want to give him a huge contract due to his injury, non-existant defense and ONE SEASON where he was among NBA elite.

              He is not a superstar. He has played ONE season in a system that suited him. He is a fringe all star player/scorer all of his career.
              No. Buddy Hield is a completely different player, more like a... I honestly don't know who to compare him to. Players like that don't really get drafted much these days. But you're clueless if you think he doesn't have "it".

              Mudiay is like a point guard version of Lance or Tyreke. He's got excellent passing instincts and the kind of talent as a penetrator that just can't be taught. Plus he just screams winner.

              I don't think you comprehend just how difficult his NBA career has been. He didn't play in college, and played his high school ball in Texas before playing in China. He's never played in a league where defense and having a small margin of error is a thing, until now in the East. He was drafted basically as the savior of the Nuggets then a year later was relegated to inconsistent minutes and a back seat while they gave the keys to the franchise to a player who couldn't have carried his jock strap prior to coming to the NBA.

              Uhh na.... IT has been balling since Sactown. His last year there, not only was he averaging 20 a game but so was Boogie, and Rudy was close to that. Know what that means? It means he's not selfish or ball-dominant.

              He's been this good every year since his last year as a King. That's why Phoenix paid him all that money. He was this good every year in Boston. His numbers were only down in PHX because he was playing with two other point guards.

              You're ridiculous. It's asinine to drag him for his defense when the vast majority of point guards in the NBA don't play any, especially when you all talk up Kyrie -who has never been as good as IT and never will be.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CoachZ View Post

                He is not a superstar. He has played ONE season in a system that suited him. He is a fringe all star player/scorer all of his career.
                I agree 100%. Always be weary of guys who keep getting moved. 5 teams in 7 years and almost a lock to be 6th team in 8 years. He had a great year last year but I think that was an outlier.
                Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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                • #38
                  I don't think that was a good move by Jazz to trade Rodney Hood.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by usagre View Post
                    I agree 100%. Always be weary of guys who keep getting moved. 5 teams in 7 years and almost a lock to be 6th team in 8 years. He had a great year last year but I think that was an outlier.
                    I disagree. To me he's just one of those guys. Especially now.

                    He's too much of a big personality and too talented to be relegated to a bench role but too much of a unique player to be on every team for very long without being replaced. And now he's getting too old to be getting long-term deals, especially now that he's had a major injury.

                    Phoenix was a bad move on his part that completely derailed his career. He was absolutely balling in Sactown then did the same in Boston. But he got hurt so they traded him for the best player they could get who was healthy. His career has been determined in large part by having to prove people wrong after being drafted so low. Most late picks never get that shot.

                    And it doesn't help that there's so many similar point guards coming out, some like Whitehead who are 6'4".

                    But there's no denying he can average twenty in a way that changes any team no matter who he plays for. Cleveland was just bad timing.

                    Put him on a team like the Clippers minus Lou Will and Austin and he's not just an All-Star but part of a strong core that fits him perfectly if they can keep DeAndre and Avery.

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                    • #40
                      I hadn't realized there were some smaller deals right before the deadline.

                      Pistons moved Brice Johnson and Willie Reed to Memphis and Chicago, respectively, for James Ennis III and Jameer.

                      I really like this move for Detroit, getting Ennis when they desperately need that two-way wing. Bullock has impressed now that he's finally been given a shot but Ennis has been doing it for a few years now.

                      I don't understand trading away all of their backup bigs not named Henry Ellenson, however. Nor do I understand this trade from Memphis' side unless it's to free up minutes for Selden and Brooks and/or they think they need a true five behind Marc Gasol.

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