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  • Kyrie already had his prime. It was his first two years in the league. He's declined ever since. The only time he's anything other than ineffective is when fully healthy because he's able to use his quickness to make up for his lack of skill past the "impressive rookie" level. Otherwise he's going to cost you games. People forget that what made Kyrie so effective his first few years was his physical attributes like speed and quickness. Not having that the past few years has made him much less effective despite what the numbers say.

    I'm not a Kyrie hater -even though I think he's a spoiled brat who needs to grow up and get over himself. Teams just need to know what they're getting in him. Boston now has one vet -who has only been there a year- and Kyrie has a giant, inflated ego. Brad Stevens better check him because no way any of his teammates can.

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    • That said, the IT aspect is a very real thing. If he's healthy then Cleveland finally has that effective second superstar and a guy who they can sign to say a three year max deal in case LeBron leaves. If not, they can let him walk and hang on to the other pieces of the deal. Boston on the other hand was up against it with him. Their best move was to bring in a starting point guard they feel could start via trade because if they didn't resign their only true superstar in 2018 well it's hard to sell that to their fanbase.

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      • Potentially bizarre turn of events in the Kyrie Irving trade. After examining Thomas' hip it appears the Cavs are concerned and may void the deal. If I am Cleveland I try to get Boston to substitute the Lakers draft pick that they possess for Thomas. Cleveland in a much stronger position now than Boston. You can always bring Irving back and trade him to another suitor, but how do you bring Thomas and Crowder back if you're Boston ? Thomas potentially becomes untradeable due to his hip and the Boston team chemistry is shot to hell.
        Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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        • Wow. I had a feeling that might happen.

          If I'm Cleveland, I do the deal with Phoenix if IT isn't healthy. They need a point guard in case Rose doesn't get and stay healthy.

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          • Nerlens Noel signs Dallas' qualifying offer of 4 million and change.

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            • Originally posted by CHBB View Post
              Nerlens Noel signs Dallas' qualifying offer of 4 million and change.
              Unbelievable! Mark Cuban really should have influenced his contract more! The ONLY thing that makes sense is that Nerlens loves it there and there is underlying talks that a long-term contract will strike before the season ends. I mean damn... Dwight Powell is getting paid more than 2x that amount for the next (3) years and Josh McRoberts' is being paid 2MIL more than Noel. Jesus! It just doesn't add up. But, you gotta hand it to Cuban since Dallas remains the 28th lowest budget used out there!

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              • Nerlens is betting on himself.

                Unfortunately for him though, multiple impact bigs keep being drafted every year for the past three years, and 2018 should be no different.

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                • Nigel Williams-Goss signs with Partizan. I have to say this seems really dumb of Utah to let him walk. They lost two major point guards this offseason and gained only Rubio.

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                  • Portland as expected waives and stretches Andrew Nicholson. I'm very surprised it took them this long.

                    I bet he ends up in China. If anybody is a fit for the CBA, it's a scoring forward like him.

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                    • Originally posted by CHBB View Post
                      Nerlens is betting on himself.

                      Unfortunately for him though, multiple impact bigs keep being drafted every year for the past three years, and 2018 should be no different.
                      I don't get how the Mavs are trying to mold him into a Tyson Chandler, when he can do so much more like KAT.
                      Sacramento Kings
                      HERE WE STAY UNTIL THE COWBELLS COME HOME

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                      • Originally posted by CKR13 View Post
                        I don't get how the Mavs are trying to mold him into a Tyson Chandler, when he can do so much more like KAT.
                        I've said time and time again he's a four. It's beyond obvious. But people keep trying to force him as a five. It's insane.

                        Him and Dieng get the same incorrect "offensively limited" label despite being very talented on that end.

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                        • New Orleans trades Pondexter and a second rounder to Chicago for a second rounder. They must not be very confident he'll play and make an impact this season.

                          Pels now 4 million and change under the cap.

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                          • So cleveland and Celtics finished the deal,cetics sended also 2 draft pick to finished it,because Thomas most likely is out till all star break.I dont believe IT will ever have season better than last one.Any such seriuos injury for small player that is closing to 30s is real deal.After knowing IT health now is obviuos who won the trade.Not only in long term,but for next season too.

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                            • These outcomes will decide who won the trade:

                              Short term= who wins the east this upcoming season.

                              Long term= Does Kyrie resign with Boston ? How high of a lottery park does it turn out to be ?

                              As of now both teams should be happy. Boston upgraded their point guard position and parted with an important future asset but it still has another potentially high lottery pick next year. Cleveland was looking for a very high pick and no other team was offering it except Boston. So they can rebuild once LeBron leaves which seems inevitable.
                              Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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                              • Andrew Nicholson to China. I so called it. 1 year deal with the Southern Tigers worth $1 million.

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