The New Orleans Pelicans

[Steadysoul]

a lot of movements\trades start as rumors. And there has been rumors for AD to GSW(centered around Klay and possibly Green) and AD to Celtics around Kyrie.

Like I said, I doubt it, but its worth to listen to atleast. Im not that familiar with NO salary but my understanding is bulk of it is on AD and Holiday. if Boogie walks away, will you be able to sign substantial support for AD to atleast stay in the playoffs if not move further? If you can get a good deal for AD and convince Boogie to stay, that might keep you guys in the hunt for a few more years. Resigning Boogie will be heaps expensive, I dont know how much you can augment your team between the salaris of AD-Holiday-Boogie.

top of my head if a trade from GSW\Boston is put into table without looking at salaries yet - just me so there is absolutely no truth in this:

GSW - AD
NO - Klay and Green or Klay, Iggy, and Bell
----
Boston - AD
NO - Kyrie plus multiple picks; or Kyrie and Morris

GSW trade gives you depth and Boston gets you Kyrie to pair with Boogie and chance to get young assets.

It's not worth listening to. It's all shallow rumors.

[CHBB]

These rumors have been around for the last two years and none of them are coming from New Orleans. It's wish fulfillment from mediocre sports writers.
No one who works for The Pelicans or writes about them actually thinks AD will be traded anytime soon. Don't let Boston sports media fool you and don't let misleading writing tell you the Warriors are actively trying to trade for him.

I'm well aware of that and called it out the first time a rumor about it came out.

But you said nobody in New Orleans is saying to trade him and well that's impossible to know unless you actually live there.

Prior to acquiring Boogie it was probably the case -and most Pels fans probably still view AD as the best thing that ever has or ever will happen to their franchise- but considering his value might never be higher and a healthy Cousins is 1A to AD's 1 as far as the best big men go (even if he isn't the same player once he comes back) and is more dominant down low, it's a legit thought if they do in fact re-sign Cousins. The return they would get for AD would set them up for years, and the immediate return of a team's young core would allow them to put a contender around Boogie and Jrue. There's no way that nobody in New Orleans wants to see it happen. Not unless they can't re-sign Cousins or he can't stay on the court.

[Steadysoul]

I'm well aware of that and called it out the first time a rumor about it came out.

But you said nobody in New Orleans is saying to trade him and well that's impossible to know unless you actually live there.

Prior to acquiring Boogie it was probably the case -and most Pels fans probably still view AD as the best thing that ever has or ever will happen to their franchise- but considering his value might never be higher and a healthy Cousins is 1A to AD's 1 as far as the best big men go (even if he isn't the same player once he comes back) and is more dominant down low, it's a legit thought if they do in fact re-sign Cousins. The return they would get for AD would set them up for years, and the immediate return of a team's young core would allow them to put a contender around Boogie and Jrue. There's no way that nobody in New Orleans wants to see it happen. Not unless they can't re-sign Cousins or he can't stay on the court.

The Pelicans have their best season since Brow was drafted and you think the wise choice is to trade him? No one in that front office is considering trading Brow. No need to obsess over what ifs to entertain yourself during the offseason.

[C2Hamm]

a lot of movements\trades start as rumors. And there has been rumors for AD to GSW(centered around Klay and possibly Green) and AD to Celtics around Kyrie.

Like I said, I doubt it, but its worth to listen to atleast. Im not that familiar with NO salary but my understanding is bulk of it is on AD and Holiday. if Boogie walks away, will you be able to sign substantial support for AD to atleast stay in the playoffs if not move further? If you can get a good deal for AD and convince Boogie to stay, that might keep you guys in the hunt for a few more years. Resigning Boogie will be heaps expensive, I dont know how much you can augment your team between the salaris of AD-Holiday-Boogie.

top of my head if a trade from GSW\Boston is put into table without looking at salaries yet - just me so there is absolutely no truth in this:

GSW - AD
NO - Klay and Green or Klay, Iggy, and Bell
----
Boston - AD
NO - Kyrie plus multiple picks; or Kyrie and Morris

GSW trade gives you depth and Boston gets you Kyrie to pair with Boogie and chance to get young assets.

well...... i dont know now

[CHBB]

The Pelicans have their best season since Brow was drafted and you think the wise choice is to trade him? No one in that front office is considering trading Brow. No need to obsess over what ifs to entertain yourself during the offseason.

Is that what I said?

And lol you have absolutely no idea what anybody in any front office is doing or thinking so stop pretending.

[CHBB]

Love the Randle signing and not re-signing Rondo. They got a max player for nine million this year and somebody who gives them serious toughness down low and a very versatile offensive game.

Their run on point guards is a little odd though.

[C2Hamm]

It's not worth listening to. It's all shallow rumors.

not a rumor anymore....

having said that, what do you guys think of this? how should NO handle this?

I thnk NO should wait till draft night before trading. Davis locked this season and next. waiting game favors Boston mostly and NYK a bit. Trading now, moves the finger to LAL because of the assets they can send over now. NO can ask LAL for BI, Lonzo, Kuzma, and Zubac and I wouldnt argue with it.

however, if they wait, an unprotected 1st round pick from NYK and KP is more tempting. thats 2 top 10 picks, and KP. thats a new team as well.

I dont think Boston will let go of Tatum, but they can give Hayward and Brown with picks. people might say, Hayward is a shell of himself. well, he came from major injury and he isnt really getting confidence since coming back because Kyrie is hogging it. not that I blame Kyrie but it does slow down getting Hayward flow in with the team. if NO takes that, they get a former All Star who can still be an all start, and a young guard who has all star potential. i dont think he will be anytime soon but has that potential.

[usagre]

When Anthony Davis fired his agent and signed with Lebrons team anyone with half a brain can see that both he and the agent were in agreement that he would end up with the Lakers and sign long term there when the opportunity arose.
So with that said these teams are all trading for a rental except for the Lakers. If I am the Pelicans I get the Lakers best offer now which as you mentioned is sizable. I can’t trust the Celtics offering Tatum, Brown and picks in the summer because they too must know that they are purchasing a rental so they can’t mortgage their future. Gordon Hayward is useless as a trade piece because his contract is enormous. I’ve said it since last year when I heard nobody mentioning it at the time that Kyrie Irving is never going to sign long term with the Celtics.

Now fron the Lakers point of view I play hardball leading up to the trade deadline. I offer a great package but I tell the Pelicans that it’s off the table after this week. We will not be pursuing a trade next year. We are pretty confident that no matter where you trade him next year that he will end up with us the following year when he is free to go anywhere he pleases. This is so obvious due to his choice of representation.

This is gonna be a crazy week.

[C2Hamm]

When Anthony Davis fired his agent and signed with Lebrons team anyone with half a brain can see that both he and the agent were in agreement that he would end up with the Lakers and sign long term there when the opportunity arose.
So with that said these teams are all trading for a rental except for the Lakers. If I am the Pelicans I get the Lakers best offer now which as you mentioned is sizable. I can’t trust the Celtics offering Tatum, Brown and picks in the summer because they too must know that they are purchasing a rental so they can’t mortgage their future. Gordon Hayward is useless as a trade piece because his contract is enormous. I’ve said it since last year when I heard nobody mentioning it at the time that Kyrie Irving is never going to sign long term with the Celtics.

Now fron the Lakers point of view I play hardball leading up to the trade deadline. I offer a great package but I tell the Pelicans that it’s off the table after this week. We will not be pursuing a trade next year. We are pretty confident that no matter where you trade him next year that he will end up with us the following year when he is free to go anywhere he pleases. This is so obvious due to his choice of representation.

This is gonna be a crazy week.

although you are correct, if LAL doesnt trade for AD now and wait till contract is up, they will get him by 20-21 season. Thats LBJs contract year as well as Lonzo and Kuzma. BI should have extended by then as well. That means, the young assets would have more expensive contracts that could complicate things.
Boston can go different ways, and even if they rented a year, whole of next season, i see them taking the east from Bucks (Kawhi should have left Toronto by then) and depending how GSW handle Boogie and Durant (i think both leaves) Boston having Kyrie and AD should have a chance to win a ship.

[usagre]

although you are correct, if LAL doesnt trade for AD now and wait till contract is up, they will get him by 20-21 season. Thats LBJs contract year as well as Lonzo and Kuzma. BI should have extended by then as well. That means, the young assets would have more expensive contracts that could complicate things.
Boston can go different ways, and even if they rented a year, whole of next season, i see them taking the east from Bucks (Kawhi should have left Toronto by then) and depending how GSW handle Boogie and Durant (i think both leaves) Boston having Kyrie and AD should have a chance to win a ship.

Kyrie Irving leaving the Celtics to me is almost as sure a bet as LeBron going to the Lakers was. And an even better chance than both of those is Anthony Davis eventually signing with the Lakers in 2 years. Danny Ainge is fully aware of this and its the same reason he didn’t give up Tatum for a Kawhi rental last year. He will never offer Tatum and Brown for a one year Davis rental. If he did the best case scenario would be Kyrie resigning for a one year with a player option fully knowing that Davis is gone the following year and hope to catch lightning in a bottle and win a title in that one year. Then they both will be gone the following year no matter what. Take it to the bank. Ainge would never mortgage his team’s future like that.

I definitely can see New Orleans making a dumb deal like that miserable human being known as Popovich and trading their star away for a worse deal with no future upside just out of spite.

[C2Hamm]

Kyrie Irving leaving the Celtics to me is almost as sure a bet as LeBron going to the Lakers was. And an even better chance than both of those is Anthony Davis eventually signing with the Lakers in 2 years. Danny Ainge is fully aware of this and its the same reason he didn’t give up Tatum for a Kawhi rental last year. He will never offer Tatum and Brown for a one year Davis rental. If he did the best case scenario would be Kyrie resigning for a one year with a player option fully knowing that Davis is gone the following year and hope to catch lightning in a bottle and win a title in that one year. Then they both will be gone the following year no matter what. Take it to the bank. Ainge would never mortgage his team’s future like that.

I definitely can see New Orleans making a dumb deal like that miserable human being known as Popovich and trading their star away for a worse deal with no future upside just out of spite.

I agree that Ainge wont let go of Tatum and Brown. But i see he will let go of one (Brown most likely) for a good deal. If Kyrie does a year for Celtics and get AD for a year, i think Ainge will book it provided it doesn't gut the team. if that happens this season, i feel GSW still wins it. but if Boston pulls this off for next season and Durant and Boogie leaves GSW, Boston has a legit chance to win it all.

and i agree again, that NO might be more inclined to trade to the East. but im fine if they trade to LAL for BI, Kuzma, Zubac, and Hart (i dont like Ball in NO)

[usagre]

I agree that Ainge wont let go of Tatum and Brown. But i see he will let go of one (Brown most likely) for a good deal. If Kyrie does a year for Celtics and get AD for a year, i think Ainge will book it provided it doesn't gut the team. if that happens this season, i feel GSW still wins it. but if Boston pulls this off for next season and Durant and Boogie leaves GSW, Boston has a legit chance to win it all.

and i agree again, that NO might be more inclined to trade to the East. but im fine if they trade to LAL for BI, Kuzma, Zubac, and Hart (i dont like Ball in NO)

Boston isn’t allowed to trade for Anthony Davis this year due to CBA rules, so they are sweating it out hoping that he doesn’t get dealt in the upcoming days. But if they get their shot in the summer they will definitely have to offer both Tatum and Brown in order to compete with what the other teams will offer. But like I said unless Kyrie signs long term which I don’t think he will, Ainge in my opinion will not make that offer for an Anthony Davis rental.

[klimbo]

a lot of movements\trades start as rumors. And there has been rumors for AD to GSW(centered around Klay and possibly Green) and AD to Celtics around Kyrie.

Like I said, I doubt it, but its worth to listen to atleast. Im not that familiar with NO salary but my understanding is bulk of it is on AD and Holiday. if Boogie walks away, will you be able to sign substantial support for AD to atleast stay in the playoffs if not move further? If you can get a good deal for AD and convince Boogie to stay, that might keep you guys in the hunt for a few more years. Resigning Boogie will be heaps expensive, I dont know how much you can augment your team between the salaris of AD-Holiday-Boogie.

top of my head if a trade from GSW\Boston is put into table without looking at salaries yet - just me so there is absolutely no truth in this:

GSW - AD
NO - Klay and Green or Klay, Iggy, and Bell
----
Boston - AD
NO - Kyrie plus multiple picks; or Kyrie and Morris

GSW trade gives you depth and Boston gets you Kyrie to pair with Boogie and chance to get young assets.

i think this is just a rumors

[klimbo]

a lot of movements\trades start as rumors. And there has been rumors for AD to GSW(centered around Klay and possibly Green) and AD to Celtics around Kyrie.

Like I said, I doubt it, but its worth to listen to atleast. Im not that familiar with NO salary but my understanding is bulk of it is on AD and Holiday. if Boogie walks away, will you be able to sign substantial support for AD to atleast stay in the playoffs if not move further? If you can get a good deal for AD and convince Boogie to stay, that might keep you guys in the hunt for a few more years. Resigning Boogie will be heaps expensive, I dont know how much you can augment your team between the salaris of AD-Holiday-Boogie.

top of my head if a trade from GSW\Boston is put into table without looking at salaries yet - just me so there is absolutely no truth in this:

GSW - AD
NO - Klay and Green or Klay, Iggy, and Bell
----
Boston - AD
NO - Kyrie plus multiple picks; or Kyrie and Morris Tutuapp 9apps Showbox

GSW trade gives you depth and Boston gets you Kyrie to pair with Boogie and chance to get young assets.

i think this is just a rumors

[C2Hamm]

i think this is just a rumors

yeah, i posted that June 2018......