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    http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spor...ers_for_t.html
    Riley: No foreign players for the Heat
    > Posted by Dave Hyde on May 3, 2010 04:09 PM

    Pat Riley explained something that's been mystifying to me: Why doesn't the Heat ever invest in a foreign player?

    Here's what he said:

    "We haven't (one of significance) even though (scout) Adam Simons spends a lot of time in Europe,'' he said. "We have a lot of contacts in Europe. And while we have looked very closely at European players, foreign players, one of them that came across my desk, three, four, five years ago was (Andres) Nocioni, I probably missed on. I'll be very honest with you, I like the homegrown product, I just do. I feel comfortable with it. And maybe somewhere in free agency or via some trades, we may have missed somewhere along the line, but I just felt I just like the players here. That's where I've gone. I not saying that we're not going to ever draft a foreign player or sign one, but it hasn't been at the top of our priority list."
    aim low, score high

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    Well, if that's Pat Riley's thinking, he's really limiting himself. It seems like most NBA teams have major international players. The only two good teams I can think of that don't have major international players are Boston and Orlando, and even Orlando has Gortat (and was better with Turkoglu).

    I think Pat Riley may have coached Rony Seikaly or Vlade Divac. I wonder how he thought about them.
    "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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    • #3
      You don't like pietrus ?

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      • #4
        He should look at San Antonio and Dallas.

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        • #5
          What about Joel Anthony and Jamal Maglorie?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sinobball View Post
            Pat Riley prefers American players
            Nothing new here.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ajaxballer View Post
              What about Joel Anthony and Jamal Maglorie?
              United States of Canada - what?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LFGC79 View Post
                He should look at San Antonio and Dallas.
                Or Boston...oh, never mind.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ajaxballer View Post
                  What about Joel Anthony and Jamal Maglorie?
                  Or Arroyo, but I suppose any guy going through NCAA is considered as homegrown?
                  It's a bird? It's a plane? No, it's Rudy!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by damelo View Post
                    Or Arroyo, but I suppose any guy going through NCAA is considered as homegrown?
                    Puerto Rico is an American colony (or commonwealth in more PC words), and Canada's only pro basketball team belongs to the National Basketball Association.

                    But seriously I think you are right. In other words, Riley doesn't like players from European/Asian clubs. I won't be surprised if he's the only one; but being so upfront about this (is this discrimination?) is a little surprising.
                    aim low, score high

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                    • #11
                      I don't think it's discrimination. European players and others have a flavour Riley doesn't like, perfectly normal.
                      Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
                      Artificial Nature

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sinobball View Post
                        Puerto Rico is an American colony (or commonwealth in more PC words), and Canada's only pro basketball team belongs to the National Basketball Association.

                        But seriously I think you are right. In other words, Riley doesn't like players from European/Asian clubs. I won't be surprised if he's the only one; but being so upfront about this (is this discrimination?) is a little surprising.
                        Yeah, I believe all those players went through the U.S. collegiate system. I think Riley's issue is with picking players overseas with no U.S. experience.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
                          I don't think it's discrimination. European players and others have a flavour Riley doesn't like, perfectly normal.
                          Yeah, Riley likes physical guys with limited skills while having the whole offense go through one guy while the rest stand and watch.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Czarkazem13 View Post
                            Yeah, Riley likes physical guys with limited skills while having the whole offense go through one guy while the rest stand and watch.
                            Youch.

                            It's kind of true, though. His best teams were the Showtime Lakers, and I think Magic and Kareem deserve credit for how that team flowed. The Knicks ran everything through Ewing. Miami in the '90s ran everything through Mourning. Both of those teams were terribly boring to watch, which is a shame because Ewing was such a good offensive player and came close to a Championship a few times.

                            Besides his "stance" on international players (which seems pretty immature and detrimental), he's been a bad GM. He quit as coach when his team was doing bad, then made himself coach again once Van Gundy corrected the problems, then quit again once his team was doing bad. Spoelstra will be forced to quit pretty soon if he continues to do a good job coaching.
                            "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mvblair View Post
                              Youch.

                              It's kind of true, though. His best teams were the Showtime Lakers, and I think Magic and Kareem deserve credit for how that team flowed. The Knicks ran everything through Ewing. Miami in the '90s ran everything through Mourning. Both of those teams were terribly boring to watch, which is a shame because Ewing was such a good offensive player and came close to a Championship a few times.

                              Besides his "stance" on international players (which seems pretty immature and detrimental), he's been a bad GM. He quit as coach when his team was doing bad, then made himself coach again once Van Gundy corrected the problems, then quit again once his team was doing bad. Spoelstra will be forced to quit pretty soon if he continues to do a good job coaching.
                              Yeah the Showtime Lakers were the exception, but even he couldn't hold Magic back.

                              To me, Riley is one of the main reasons (add Jeff Van Gundy) for how boring the NBA is (like the old Big East basketball), relying on athleticism over skill. Plus, I'm tired of coaches that slow down their offense and then all of the sudden they are considered defensive geniuses.

                              I continue to hold my breath for the day that he departs from the Heat.

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