PHX owner has team to wear "Los Suns" to protest immigration law

[perucho123]

immigration is a complicated issue in america. unlike europe america is a country of immigrants. in america you see last names like ruggerio,lopez,o'flaugherty,eick,shwartz,wentz,joh ansson, jackson etc.. you get my point. the problem is that america is in a economical reseccion. so many americans are forgetting their past because of the economical pinch. compettition for jobs, housing, etc... plus sept. 11 created resentment and mistrust towards immigrants, even though latins were not envolved, they get the backlash. plus a small group of right wing ,white supremacist have controlled the immigration debate and are using that as well as a black president to fuel their comeback.

[mvblair]

Rush Limbaugh called this "who called the move sad and shortsighted." LOL. That's how I feel about the law (and actually Rush Limbaugh for that matter).

Dittos.

The real problem is how all the Latino baseball players are reacting and that the All-Star Game will be there next year I believe.

The All-Star game and the spring training in 2011. Latinos are much bigger in baseball than they are in basketball, so if they decide to protest, it'll be awful for the MLB. And the MLB will probably support those players because they're so important to their game.

the problem is that america is in a economical reseccion. so many americans are forgetting their past because of the economical pinch.

That's right. We're getting off-topic, but you're right that immigration is not really a big issue when the economy is good. Immigrants have always been easy "scapegoats" for when the economy is bad.

[kisssabayhug]

I look at the jerseys and I start thinking, "Nice gesture, but shouldn't that read LOS SOLES?"

[Czarkazem13]

immigration is a complicated issue in america. unlike europe america is a country of immigrants. in america you see last names like ruggerio,lopez,o'flaugherty,eick,shwartz,wentz,joh ansson, jackson etc.. you get my point. the problem is that america is in a economical reseccion. so many americans are forgetting their past because of the economical pinch. compettition for jobs, housing, etc... plus sept. 11 created resentment and mistrust towards immigrants, even though latins were not envolved, they get the backlash. plus a small group of right wing ,white supremacist have controlled the immigration debate and are using that as well as a black president to fuel their comeback.

That's right. We're getting off-topic, but you're right that immigration is not really a big issue when the economy is good. Immigrants have always been easy "scapegoats" for when the economy is bad.

I have to disagree with you that this is a recession thing or 9/11 thing. This attitude towards immigratants and "illegal" immigrants is nothing new. In fact just look at attitudes towards Italian and Irish Catholics at the beginning of the 20th century, even more towards Jews and the Chinese.

Not to mention but all through the 90s I heard the immigration debate. It's a good wedge issue for Republicans to attach Democrats on.

Again, nothing new.

Also, I would say that Obama is mixed (being both black and white). Not to mention that there have been more raids and harsher laws against "illegals" under Obama's first year then Bush's worse (best?).

I look at the jerseys and I start thinking, "Nice gesture, but shouldn't that read LOS SOLES?"

I would say no, because "Suns" is the name. One usually doesn't translate the official name of a team or etc...

[sinobball]

Somewhat related... This is what mixing politics and basketball can do... sigh

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/12...-safety-fears/
Illinois School Nixes Basketball Team's Trip to Arizona Over Immigration Law

[Czarkazem13]

Somewhat related... This is what mixing politics and basketball can do... sigh

Two different things. One is the owner of a private company (NBA team) that got the input from his employees (players) that decided to make a stand, the other is a public school that a superintendent decided she would make the players make a stance without their input or their parents'. So I don't see the relation.

But don't worry, Sarah "You Betcha'" Palin is on the way.

[robbe]

But don't worry, Sarah "You Betcha'" Palin is on the way.

With a ship, through the Great Basin.

[Lewis]

sinobball I'm 100 % sure that if this law were directed towards Chinese/Asian people you'd the first one to speak up in this forum and would be as disgusted as about 40 % of us who still has a functioning brain in this country.

Imagine, you're walking down the street and a cop stop you and ask you for you document, let's say you forgot them at home, so he then proceed to arrest you and treat you like an average criminal. Then you asking him "but what have I done?, what's my crime officer" and he tells you that he arrested you because you look Chinese

How would you feel then

Illegal immigration in Arizona, and any area near Mexico for that Matter is crazy, and it as certainly become a HUGE social issue, and has brought us a lot of problems, So I do believe that Illegal Immigration should be radically tackle, this wave of undocumented coming in and out of the country at will by illegal means, Must not be permitted. BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO THAT, this is a violation to Human Rights violations, there is no need to humiliate a person for looking different/foreign/non-American.

[sinobball]

sinobball I'm 100 % sure that if this law were directed towards Chinese/Asian people you'd the first one to speak up in this forum and would be as disgusted as about 40 % of us who still has a functioning brain in this country.

100% eh? Since you belong to a certain 60% who don't seem to understand "personally I'm not in favor of this law", I guess it is also impossible for you to understand my position of "mixing politics and sports is wrong REGARDLESS OF what the politics is".

[kfcfish]

hope Sun will beat LA

[Uto-uto PBA Fans]

Personally I'm not in favor of this law, but that's another issue. I don't think Mr. Sarver's actions are appropriate. While "Los Suns" are not offensive -- like he said the words are just there to honor the Latino population, and the Suns have worn the uniforms before -- the message is clearly political this time around. To me mixing sports and politics is a no-no. What's your take?

My take on this is that "Los Suns" of Arizona just tried to diffuse a potential backlash from the large latino population of the San Antonio Spurs homecourt.