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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ridirkulous View Post

    They changed the format in the Tokyo Olympics to reduce the number of games to risk less infections and also because the compressed schedule was already tough on the players. FIBA is fully expected to go back to the "two groups of six teams" format in Paris, I think.
    Check this page – from 27.07 to 03.08 they have min.18 & max.24 GS matches, QF starts from 06.08. It's either this or new format
    https:// olympics.com/ en/ news/ olympic-games-paris-2024-full-schedule-and-day-by-day-competitions​

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
      Ben Simmons says he's gonna suit up for Boomers. Him and Josh Giddey would make funny size at 1.

      Heard USA into competition for Embiid with France. But do France need Embiid when they have Wemby? Hard to say.

      Steph Curry wants to play for USA if healthy. Durant says "we'll see". Next best Americans are Tatum, Morant and healthy Zion (IMO). This would probably mean better roster than 2020 and 2016, but it's safe to say USA has no talent to replace Lebron, Kobe, Durant as 2012 went.

      Obviously Canada is getting more and more stacked with one of the best rookies in B. Mathurin. They could gather not much worse backcourt than USA's basically.

      Europe as 2022 EB showed is a wild continent. Like 10 competitive NTs that can win it all. But still I think France, Serbia, Spain, Slovenia remain top contenders, followed by Greece, Lithuania, Germany, Italy, Turkey.

      Don't know that to make from Argentina? Will they still be competitive Campazzo, Bolmaro, Vildoza, Laprovitolla, Gabriel Deck? Probably still pretty nice and competitive team.

      Thought this thread will be useful since the news about Simmons came out tonight.
      I get this is a post from 2022 but Slovenia each time Doncic won't take part in a competition they will be either absent from the tournament or Belgium level at best. They are also not hosting a tournament next year so for me they are the most beatable opposition from the pot 1.

      GRE will probably go with Spanoulis as they think he got better recruiting abilities and can gather the whole roster together.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cameronwraitz View Post

        Check this page – from 27.07 to 03.08 they have min.18 & max.24 GS matches, QF starts from 06.08. It's either this or new format
        https:// olympics.com/ en/ news/ olympic-games-paris-2024-full-schedule-and-day-by-day-competitions​
        Oh then you are probably right. It sucks for the fans though: with the old format we were guaranteed at least 5 quality games for each team. On the other hand it means Germany is a top seed and thus avoiding the USA in the group stage.

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        • #19
          After watching 2021 Olympics im not fan of that new playing format

          8 games in 2 weeks is normal amount for any fiba tournament historically, 6 feels too little

          Especially when we can see in horizont like 8-9 very strong rosters in 2024 olympic tournament

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
            After watching 2021 Olympics im not fan of that new playing format

            8 games in 2 weeks is normal amount for any fiba tournament historically, 6 feels too little

            Especially when we can see in horizont like 8-9 very strong rosters in 2024 olympic tournament

            Only 8-9 rosters? Considering Carlik Jones NBA contract and Rui Hachimura play for Japan(adding big man and players with USA NCAA, league experience)- all games can be very interesting.

            Germany now looks way stronger.

            And Canada over Argentina
            Last edited by basketfann; 09-21-2023, 11:22 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
              After watching 2021 Olympics im not fan of that new playing format

              8 games in 2 weeks is normal amount for any fiba tournament historically, 6 feels too little

              Especially when we can see in horizont like 8-9 very strong rosters in 2024 olympic tournament
              Agreed. I think a fair compromise is to have 4 groups of 3 teams. The top two in each group then form 2 groups of 4 (and results carry over). I think the first 3 of each group go the quarterfinals and the bottom two have to play the 9-10th team (coming from a 9-12th group played in the meantime) to get their spot. So top 6 teams play 7 game maximum. Teams 7-8 from the the pool play can technically still win a medal but they have to play 8 games. Teams 9-12 have to play 9 games to win a medal (but let's face it, they won't)



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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ridirkulous View Post

                Agreed. I think a fair compromise is to have 4 groups of 3 teams. The top two in each group then form 2 groups of 4 (and results carry over). I think the first 3 of each group go the quarterfinals and the bottom two have to play the 9-10th team (coming from a 9-12th group played in the meantime) to get their spot. So top 6 teams play 7 game maximum. Teams 7-8 from the the pool play can technically still win a medal but they have to play 8 games. Teams 9-12 have to play 9 games to win a medal (but let's face it, they won't)



                In football Olympics they play 6 games too, and in World Cup other than 1/2 teams(they are playing only 5 games or less)

                In football we can see all best players when we want, in basketball little bit harder to see.

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                • #23
                  Seems like Durant, Curry in.
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • #24
                    Embiid chose to play for USA.
                    Weak move by Embiid, as expected. It would have been admireable had he chosen to play for Cameroon. I guess USA also went hard for him, considering noticeable drop of talent compared to some earlier years. Scare of getting beaten in Olympics is real. Still have to rely on Lebron, Curry, Durant...who are like closer to their 40 than 30.
                    Last edited by Serbian_Layup; 10-05-2023, 04:20 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Just a horrible look all round Embiid joining USA. Otherwise, I'm sure Spain, Slovenia & most international teams won't be hypocritical & show support for this move.

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                      • #26
                        2023/2024 nba season stats of top 20 europeans

                        1.L.Doncic 32,7pts
                        2.Giannis 31,6pts
                        3.N.Jokic 27pts

                        4.L.Markannen 23,4pts (Finland)
                        5.F.Wagner 20,5pts (Germany)
                        6.B.Bogdanovic 20,5pts (Croatia)
                        7.A.Sengun 19,7pts (Turkey)
                        8.K.Porzingis 19,1pts (Latvia)
                        9.Vembanyama 19pts (France)
                        10.D.Sabonis 18,5pts (Lithuania)
                        11.B.Bogdanovich 17,5pts (Serbia)
                        12.N.Vucevic 16,5pts (Montenegro)
                        13.D.Schroder 15pts (Gemany)
                        14.J.Valanciunas 14.6pts (Lithuania)
                        15.R.Gobert 13pts (France)
                        16.I.Zubac 12pts (Croatia)
                        17.M.Wagner 11,9pts (Germany)
                        18.D.Avdija 11,8pts (Israel)
                        19.J.Poeltl 11,1pts (Austria)
                        20.D.Saric 10,7pts (Croatia)

                        Big 3 is gods is head and shoulders better than others. If you could choose any 3 other european players play for your NT for 2024 Olympics which would it be?


                        My choice would be Markannen,F.Wagner and serbias Bogdanovich

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                          If you could choose any 3 other european players play for your NT for 2024 Olympics which would it be?
                          My choice would be Schroder, Bogi and Wagner. Guard presence offensively with good size and all three are at least good defenders (Schroder and Wagner are elite defenders). The more guard power you have, the better. Specially when they can play D too.

                          Another choice Schroder, Wagner, Porzingis. Great positional size and Porzingis in FIBA is a monster. Not only he can comfortably shoot closer (FIBA) threes, but he is effective defensively too. This would make a crazy chemistry at both ends. I don't need Markannen cause he's not a good defender and he's not a good passer. He can only score.
                          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                          Buzelis, Lelevicius
                          Murauskas, Sirvydis
                          Tubelis, Krivas

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                          • #28


                            It seems like you're discussing various basketball-related topics, including players' decisions on international competitions and speculating about the strength of different national teams. Here are some comments on the points you raised:
                            1. Ben Simmons and Josh Giddey: It would indeed be interesting to see them play together for the Boomers. Their combination of skills and size could make for a unique dynamic.
                            2. Embiid's Competition: The competition for players like Joel Embiid between the USA and other national teams adds an extra layer of excitement to international basketball. It reflects the global growth and competitiveness of the sport.
                            3. Team USA Roster: The potential inclusion of players like Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum, Ja Morant, and Zion Williamson would certainly strengthen Team USA. However, comparing rosters across years can be subjective, as each team has its own strengths and dynamics.
                            4. Canada's Rising Talent: The mention of Canada's growing talent, including players like B. Mathurin, highlights the increasing depth of basketball talent in various countries.
                            5. European Competition: Europe's competitiveness in basketball is evident, with several strong national teams. The balance of power among nations like France, Serbia, Spain, and Slovenia makes international competitions intriguing.
                            6. Argentina's Team: Argentina has a rich basketball history, and the mentioned players like Campazzo, Bolmaro, Vildoza, Laprovitolla, and Gabriel Deck have the potential to form a competitive team.
                            7. Ben Simmons' Decision: The news about Ben Simmons choosing to play for the Boomers adds another storyline to international basketball. It's always interesting to see how NBA players contribute to their national teams.

                            International basketball competitions provide fans with exciting matchups and showcase the diverse talent present in the sport globally. It will be intriguing to see how these storylines develop as competitions approach.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by christodoulou76 View Post
                              Apparently Lebron, Durant and Steph Curry might be on the US Olympic team next year.
                              LBJ, KD and Steph are locks. Players who could be joining them in roster are Embiid, Kawhi, AD, Lillard, Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, Haliburton and Ant Edwards. That makes 11 and anyone of the 41 men pool could be inserted as the 12th man…
                              Last edited by FilWelsh; 02-21-2024, 09:25 PM.

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                              • #30
                                I believe France will go on full gear in Paris. I think Wemby and Spurs has mutual understanding that the organization will not utilise optimally so as to preserve him for Paris. They are pacing the youngster so as to prevent unnecessary injuries before quadrennial meet. Then by next NBA season he will go all out and full blast for Spurs…

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