Would the U.S. win gold with this team?

[auris1]

I went to the FIBA site and watched the video. Other than being thoroughly confusing, what's the main concern about the new qualification process?

To WC 2019 ?
It is absolute shambles and pile of shit .
In Europe ,we have no time for mid season NT games . No one will turn up ,that is another reason .
And i really, really like European championships . Now that is ruined , because instead of having that tournament we will have some fucking qualifiers to play .
FIBA wants to ruin euruleague and diminish importance of European championships .
FIBA wants to be similar to FIFA, and we all know how corrupt they are . Money money money ,and some bulshit given it is because of the greater good .
Who did they ask ? Fucking wankers

[R1ou]

I went to the FIBA site and watched the video. Other than being thoroughly confusing, what's the main concern about the new qualification process?

That the qualification games will be played during the club and the NBA season and that makes it difficult for those players to participate.

[Beez]

To WC 2019 ?
It is absolute shambles and pile of shit .
In Europe ,we have no time for mid season NT games . No one will turn up ,that is another reason .
And i really, really like European championships . Now that is ruined , because instead of having that tournament we will have some fucking qualifiers to play .
FIBA wants to ruin euruleague and diminish importance of European championships .
FIBA wants to be similar to FIFA, and we all know how corrupt they are . Money money money ,and some bulshit given it is because of the greater good .
Who did they ask ? Fucking wankers

That's not good at all. What's FIBA's end game? To shake down European teams for a favorable schedule?

That the qualification games will be played during the club and the NBA season and that makes it difficult for those players to participate.

USA's starting 5 for its 2017 qualifier against Honduras:

F Shawn Marion
F Kevin Garnett
C Tim Duncan
G Andre Miller
G Kobe Bryant

[reamily]

That's not good at all. What's FIBA's end game? To shake down European teams for a favorable schedule?



USA's starting 5 for its 2017 qualifier against Honduras:

F Shawn Marion
F Kevin Garnett
C Tim Duncan
G Andre Miller
G Kobe Bryant

The nba legends tour would sell well in Honduras

[Bruno Díaz es Batman]

And with this?

C Lopez-Plumlee
PF Love-Lee-Anderson
SF Parsons-McDermott
SG Hayward-Redick-Korver
PG Lin-McConell

[Shawshank]

And with this?

C Lopez-Plumlee
PF Love-Lee-Anderson
SF Parsons-McDermott
SG Hayward-Redick-Korver
PG Lin-McConell

Exactly !

put any nba lineup with only white usa players and they without that athletic ,speed,strenght huge advantage afroameiricans have,than Olympics basketball would be fair and i dont see them as favorites in Olympics...Game of basketball is more suited for africans genes overall and americans understood that 40 years ago...its impossible to beat faster,stronger 12 men lineup when all 12 are have such advantage,doesnt matter if you play smarter or something...You can prepare white body as hard as you want you wont get same abilities as trained africans can have.There is a reason why we dont see in olympics 100m finals white runners...dont fool yourself if you think they do not train hard...they train even harder than those 100m finalist,but abilities are diffrent.Same in basketball,one naturalised good afro-american PG is changing entire team alot,when they put 12 players like that ofcourse if not realistic to beat them for white,slow players nobody naturalises white american players

[Straight forward]

And with this?

C Lopez-Plumlee
PF Love-Lee-Anderson
SF Parsons-McDermott
SG Hayward-Redick-Korver
PG Lin-McConell

Still would probably be top favourite to win it all. Hayward, Parsons, Love, Anderson are pretty much at the level to make USA roster on a typical day, let's say borderline USA NT material. Another options also still damn solid. Off course, this team would be much more vulnerable and maybe would suffer because of lack of FIBA's basketball experience.

[Bruno Díaz es Batman]

Well, if we consider that the US has 318 million inhabitans it's logical that they make up a good team even with no black players

But, What if they play vs an European team?

Dragic-Kalnietis-Llull-Rubio-Rodriguez-Heurtel-Satoransky
Bogdanovic-De Colo-Gentile-Belinelli-Bogdanovic (Bogdan)
Gallinari-Rudy-Kuzminskas-Hezonja-Papanikolau
Dirk-Porzingis-Jokic-Bjelica-Mirotic-Teletovic
Pau-Marc-Vucevic-Raduljica-Borousis-Koufos-Kanter-Vesely-Gortat-Pachulia

[Dirtyh]

What if USA takes part with Euroleague players team?

World tournaments are ruined because USA is so dominant. Now Eurobaskets are in trouble because of Fiba. Great times!

[HeinrichMohr]

nobody naturalises white american players

Spain did in the early 70s with Wayne Brabender and Clifford Luyk.

[Beez]

Still would probably be top favourite to win it all. Hayward, Parsons, Love, Anderson are pretty much at the level to make USA roster on a typical day, let's say borderline USA NT material. Another options also still damn solid. Off course, this team would be much more vulnerable and maybe would suffer because of lack of FIBA's basketball experience.

Love and Hayward turned down spots on this year's team.

If someone made non-black NBA all star team from 2016 it would be Heyward, Love, Lopez, Redick, Dragic. (I used "non-black" instead of "white" because players like Klay Thompson and Blake Griffith are as much white as they are black).

5 year ago it would have been: Dirk, Gasol, Yao Ming, Manu, Nash

That's a rather significant drop off in international players (China can't produce a better basketball player than Jeremy Lin!?). But that's certain to change. Porzingis and Jokic look like future all-stars.

[R1ou]

Well, if we consider that the US has 318 million inhabitans it's logical that they make up a good team even with no black players

But, What if they play vs an European team?

Dragic-Kalnietis-Llull-Rubio-Rodriguez-Heurtel-Satoransky
Bogdanovic-De Colo-Gentile-Belinelli-Bogdanovic (Bogdan)
Gallinari-Rudy-Kuzminskas-Hezonja-Papanikolau
Dirk-Porzingis-Jokic-Bjelica-Mirotic-Teletovic
Pau-Marc-Vucevic-Raduljica-Borousis-Koufos-Kanter-Vesely-Gortat-Pachulia

I'd go with something like this,on a 30-men pool.



Teodosic,Llull,Dragic,Rubio,Schroeder,Satoransky
Belinelli,DeColo,Rodriguez,Fournier,Bogdanovic,Osm an
Batum,Kuzminskas,Datome,Antetokounmpo,Gallinari
Jokic,Saric,Printezis,Motiejunas,Porzingis,Bjelica ,Mirotic
Gasol,Gobert,Valanciunas,Bourousis,Marjanovic,Vuce vic

[Jon_Koncak]

Exactly !

put any nba lineup with only white usa players and they without that athletic ,speed,strenght huge advantage afroameiricans have,than Olympics basketball would be fair and i dont see them as favorites in Olympics...Game of basketball is more suited for africans genes overall and americans understood that 40 years ago...its impossible to beat faster,stronger 12 men lineup when all 12 are have such advantage,doesnt matter if you play smarter or something...You can prepare white body as hard as you want you wont get same abilities as trained africans can have.

will this nonsense ever end?Lets assume what you write here is true.Then explain to me why African teams constantly fail to win more than one or two games in international competitions..If being black alone gives you such a huge advantage why isnt Senegal a powerhouse?Have you seen Senegal squad?They are black!they are athletic!they run as fast as anyone..yet they hardly win any games.what gives?

The truth whether you want to admit it or not is that Americans arent dominating because they are..black..but because they are simply better players.They dribble better,they have elite ballhandling,they are better shooters,they can create their own shot much better than a typical
european.they learn the game on the streets,it's in their blood...they're not waiting for some random trainer to teach them at age of 10 how to pivot or play pick n roll..Americans are better in bball for the same reason Argentinians are better than english in football.BBALL is an integral part of afroamericans culture just like football is in south america.But if you want to believe that Kyrie Irving has the ball handling he has just because of hi color,or Durant shoots the way he does just because he is black,be my guest..

[Joško Poljak Fan]

The fact is that basketball just isn't as widely played in europe as it is in the US. 2 hours of practices aren't enough if you want to reach some notable level. After that it takes hours of playing in the street to really master the game.
Most often that shows with the guards. People are looking at the number of NBA players from europe and saying we're getting closer, due to more euro players there. What a sloppy bullshit, take a look at how many of those are big man and how many are PG's and SG's, as those are the true indicator of a bball school efficiency. Unless you want to say there is a nation that has a hard time finding adult man under 195 cm of height, there is no excuse there. The fact that almost half of players in europe on PG are americans speaks for itself.
Raising a tall guy? Well first of all, he is tall. If he is remotely talented and dedicated to the sport, almost anyone with 210cm+ can play basketball professionaly at one point. Raising a good C/PF is more a matter of numbers than anything else... or better said, it's less dependent on bball school efficiency, the time players spend on court, knowledge and ability of coaches which they pass on on their players etc.

I witnessed years in my town, when what would nowadays be considered a top-notch talents were passed on solely due to not standing out, these guys were on courts every single available free hour they had and didn't make it, yet some guards from our bball school that stood out made some fine careers considering the 2 million population pool only. Nowadays... well, Slovenia is just getting back to the average bball euro popularity and we'll stop producing those guards eventually since the competition they face among themselves is worse with every following year- and that's the story on why there is such a difference between US and the rest. Forget about the race. Sure jumping ouut of the gym helps, but it's far from being the excuse some people would like it to be...

[ncjazz]

That's not good at all. What's FIBA's end game? To shake down European teams for a favorable schedule?



USA's starting 5 for its 2017 qualifier against Honduras:

F Shawn Marion
F Kevin Garnett
C Tim Duncan
G Andre Miller
G Kobe Bryant

Will the games be played in wheelchairs?