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Originally posted by CoachZ View PostYep I am. Basketball is a game of matchups. Beaten by Lithuania, killed Spain. When talking about other teams, always take into account how you play against them before making claims that you would sweep them and destroy them. Serbia and Spain games are always tough and tight and this generation with Teodosic has always given Spain fits. That is all I said.
So, the "always tough games" you're talking about are, in reality, 3 close games (and 4 blowouts) since 2009. I'm pretty sure other countries have a much better record.
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Originally posted by SashKX View PostThis game will depend completely on which Serbian team shows up. Australia has been very consistent this entire tournament and we all know what to expect. On the other hand, our team had games that ranged from challenging USA harder than anyone has for a long time, down to games where we played like our women's team, good hustling work followed by missed layups, as was what happened against Croatia. I doubt the latter will happen, considering our games with our dear western brethren are always special, but team could easily be mentally exhausted after that one. If we approach the game like we did against the USA (except for those dreadful first 5 minutes), it's gonna be a win in double digits easily, but I doubt it will go that way either, Aussies have so far played much better defense than USA.
So, it might seem to someone that Australia is the favorite here, based on their consistent performance and deceptively large point difference in that group win, but they're really not, there's no favorite in this game.
As I said it before, we need to win this one or we ain't getting a medal, right now the most important game of the tournament so they better show up.
Mate Australia pushed America way harder then the Serbs lol that's a fact, we were leading the game for most of it. Did Serbia even take the lead against America ? They took the foot off the pedal and just did what they had too. I still feel the Europeans on here are struggling to come to terms with the fact that this Australian team is shit hot. Better then the Europeans, Spain vs Australia would be a tight game. It's time to real and accept the changing of the guard. Can Serbia beat Australia ? Yes I think they could if this Australian team has an off night. if both teams play to the maximum level, Australia wins, and wins with some space to spare.
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Originally posted by Boomer View PostMate Australia pushed America way harder then the Serbs lol that's a fact, we were leading the game for most of it. Did Serbia even take the lead against America ? They took the foot off the pedal and just did what they had too. I still feel the Europeans on here are struggling to come to terms with the fact that this Australian team is shit hot. Better then the Europeans, Spain vs Australia would be a tight game. It's time to real and accept the changing of the guard. Can Serbia beat Australia ? Yes I think they could if this Australian team has an off night. if both teams play to the maximum level, Australia wins, and wins with some space to spare.
Also no one is denying Australia that they're shit hot, but that doesn't mean they're better, not after having a good start on one tournament.
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Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View PostSure. 2009 was a great start by this current generation being beaten by 22 points by Spain in the final game. In 2010 it really was a tight game which fell on Serbia's side. It was also a great display of winning character by Teodosic and friends, failing to win a game in the medal round. Then in 2011 another 20+ points drumming on the second round, and Serbia failed to advance to the semis. In 2012 there was no Serbia in the Olympics. In 2013, a not-so-strong Spanish squad just demolished Serbia by 30 points in the quarter-finals. In 2014 Serbia fared much better, losing only by 16 points in a non-elimination game. France's lucky day prevented a Spain vs. Serbia match in the semis. And, of course, in 2015 Serbia scored another meaningless win. I must say it's quite a lucky charm to lose to Serbia the first day of a competition, as Spain has ended up winning it all each time.
So, the "always tough games" you're talking about are, in reality, 3 close games (and 4 blowouts) since 2009. I'm pretty sure other countries have a much better record.
Each country has it's period of dominance and those come in cycles. So be happy that you witnessed yours, since others are rising.
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Originally posted by SashKX View PostSerbia had a wide open 3 for an over time with USA, after completely outplaying them for 3 quarters, Australia didn't, so I'm not sure where does this fact about Australia pushing them harder comes from.
Also no one is denying Australia that they're shit hot, but that doesn't mean they're better, not after having a good start on one tournament.
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Originally posted by CoachZ View PostThis current generation? Teodosic, Markovic, Bjelica, Raduljica was there. Everybody else has nothing to do with those teams. If you want to be selective, I can play that game too, and start pulling up generations that I want. Like I said, you have it all in you hands. Beat USA and if we do our job, you will have another crack at us. If any one of us fails, it is not meant to be. Also there are very few meaningless games, since losses in "meaningless games" have sent you in the path of USA now, when you could've been playing Serbia in the 1/4.
Each country has it's period of dominance and those come in cycles. So be happy that you witnessed yours, since others are rising.
Anyway, the demise of the Spanish Golden Generation has been announced so many times, it's not even funny. I remember posters on this board claiming Spain would never rise again after 2014's defeat to France. And you saw what happened. Meeting Team USA in the medal round was the goal this time, and has been achieved. We'll probably lose again, but at least we have one last chance.
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Originally posted by Boomer View PostI'd be interested to see what the American fans think about it, who they think is a bigger threat to America and who pushed them harder in the group games.Last edited by usagre; 08-18-2016, 04:43 PM.Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.
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Originally posted by Boomer View PostI'd be interested to see what the American fans think about it, who they think is a bigger threat to America and who pushed them harder in the group games.
Spain looks like the best team out of the three and I think would handle Australia easily. Serbia would give Spain a better challenge, but I still think Spain would win.
I agree with the poster about the USA's familiarity with he Aussie players. These are just not great players in the NBA, they would need to play out of their minds coupled with the US being dysfunctional to keep close. But as we already saw, that can happen.
The Aussie's desperately need 25-30 points from Mills and it seems like if you told Butler or Thompson all they need to do the entire game is blanket Mills the game wouldn't be close.Last edited by mojo13; 08-18-2016, 07:01 PM.
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3 straight final four appearance at least for the Serbians under Djordevic and what had change from the previous coaches? as I observe the Serbian NT was used as a tool back then to market young players to have contract in the euro teams, some really arent cut to the nt, its better to ahve Bircevic, Stimac and Simonovic who know their role on the team rather than a young guy who just there to apply for a job..To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.
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Originally posted by Jazz View PostMight actually be Joe Ingles...
But honestly the only ones who looked liked overrated nba players were the Serbian ones when Australia played them, and made them look like boys. Except the Serbian centre he played great.
I'll let the boomers do the talking for me, then the Europeans might have to admit Australia have the far better players, the fact that Australia has like 8 nba players now speaks volumes about the caliuatites of the players we are producing. It's not easy to make the nba. How many Serbians are in the nba ? Instead of attacking a poster personally lol how about you guys talk about the national teams lol.Last edited by Boomer; 08-19-2016, 12:07 AM.
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