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  • Originally posted by Oly_fan View Post
    Greece was also missing players in the qualifiers and has given the reigns to a 22 year-old but it's 'fading fast'.

    I think all of us whose countries failed to even be there should just sit back and watch the games instead of talking about what our national teams would be doing 'if'.

    Point taken, but this is one of the reasons I don't like the Olympics. 12 teams aren't enough, especially when two teams arn't nearly competitive. Thus the WCs are so much more intriguing. It is a shame the Olympics are such higher profile (at least in North America) than the WCs as it is less meaningful and exciting tournament to most bball fans. I would have really enjoyed seeing the full contingents of Greece, Italy, NZ, Philippines, Czech, Latvia,Turkey and others playing this summer (and of course Canada).

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    • Originally posted by Ashtrusis_dantis View Post

      If EC 2017 means nothing we should rest our veterans and send young players.
      I agree with this alot a new generation has to come in guys like M.Varnas T.Sedekerskis even A.Velicka have to be called for NT camp and not necessarily be real contenders for the final roster but to get them ready from an earlier age thats what Serbia has done in the past.

      And lets just make peace with this for ones a country of just barely 3 million people cant always produce talent which can compete on the elite level we dont only have the population capacity for this to keep up but also other resources like money + most of our youngsters go to Spain were they are thought individually which many of LT coaches dont do that.

      If Kurtinaitis does take over i see this happening.
      Lithuania

      Olympic Games: Bronze 1992-1996-2000.
      FIBA World Championship : Bronze 2010.
      FIBA EuroBasket : Gold 1937-1939-2003. Silver 1995-2013-2015. Bronze 2007.

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      • Originally posted by Ashtrusis_dantis View Post
        Few differences - some players came very late at our camp, so had no time for full preparation. Maciulis for example had only 10 days rest after finals in ACB, Kuzminskas almost the same, we played biggest number of friendlies if I remember correct.
        It is not the length of training camp, but how do you organise it. Sometimes it is better to have longer, but not so intense camp.
        Kalinic, Bogdanovic came with a 18 hour rest before name call for OQT preps. They haven't had a single day of rest. Practically the whole team outside of Jokic who's season ended a long time ago came into the team with very little rest. And they had even worse conditions, they had to run two prep camps. One for OQT and another for OG.

        I think it has little to do with prep, much more with bad game plans in most of the games and also you didn't perform at high level. In the last 3 games, you were fully outcoached.

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        • Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
          Kalinic, Bogdanovic came with a 18 hour rest before name call for OQT preps. They haven't had a single day of rest. Practically the whole team outside of Jokic who's season ended a long time ago came into the team with very little rest. And they had even worse conditions, they had to run two prep camps. One for OQT and another for OG.
          Kalinic 24, Bogdanovic 23. Maciulis 31, Seibutis 31, Kalnietis 29. And please dont compare OQT with OG. OQT was your camp before OG.

          I think it has little to do with prep, much more with bad game plans in most of the games and also you didn't perform at high level. In the last 3 games, you were fully outcoached.
          Don't think so and even if that would be truth what it has to do with being so slow on defense?

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          • Originally posted by Ashtrusis_dantis View Post
            Kalinic 24, Bogdanovic 23. Maciulis 31, Seibutis 31, Kalnietis 29. And please dont compare OQT with OG. OQT was your camp before OG.

            Don't think so and even if that would be truth what it has to do with being so slow on defense?
            Because you tried to zone shooting teams way too much with a short rotation. You can gamble a bit but if you do it too much, you can't get to the shots. If you know you don't have that luxury you don't do it.

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            • Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
              Because you tried to zone shooting teams way too much with a short rotation. You can gamble a bit but if you do it too much, you can't get to the shots. If you know you don't have that luxury you don't do it.
              Yes we gambled too much with zone defense, but that's what coaches do when his players aren't prepared good enough physically to play personal defense and that's what I am saying.

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              • Originally posted by mojo13 View Post
                Point taken, but this is one of the reasons I don't like the Olympics. 12 teams aren't enough, especially when two teams arn't nearly competitive. Thus the WCs are so much more intriguing. It is a shame the Olympics are such higher profile (at least in North America) than the WCs as it is less meaningful and exciting tournament to most bball fans. I would have really enjoyed seeing the full contingents of Greece, Italy, NZ, Philippines, Czech, Latvia,Turkey and others playing this summer (and of course Canada).
                It should have been expanded to 16 this year. This was the year to do it.

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                • Sergejus Jovaisa interview - hope you can translate whole thing yourselves .
                  Here is a bit i liked:
                  "Everything is much easier than you might think. Jonas Kazlauskas team is without a single basketball player, who could be team leader. Look, from which the clubs collect the players and what they are in teams - not a single basketball player, who in his club would be striking force. None of those teams are in leaders. So if you gather not the leaders, how they can be leaders, if they do not play as leaders? And these Olympics we had to have the man who could had pulled the team in tough moments, "- taught her mind former Kaunas Zalgiris and Lithuanian national team player.
                  Indeed ,our previous generation had them players who were regularly averaging 20 or so points in the teams they were playing for .
                  Jasikevicius, Siskauskas, Kleiza, Stombergas , Siskauskas, Brothers and many more ,all were able to score at will .
                  This team consisted of the players who are used to score 10 points per game ,god willing .
                  I am gonna give 10 points to Mantas and gonna pray that he can stay healthy for another 5 years ,because we gonna need him .
                  And let that be a lesson to you all. Nobody beats Zalgiris 17 times in a row.

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                  • Originally posted by auris1 View Post
                    http://sportas.lrytas.lt/krepsinis/s...eju-zmoniu.htm
                    Sergejus Jovaisa interview - hope you can translate whole thing yourselves .
                    Here is a bit i liked:
                    "Everything is much easier than you might think. Jonas Kazlauskas team is without a single basketball player, who could be team leader. Look, from which the clubs collect the players and what they are in teams - not a single basketball player, who in his club would be striking force. None of those teams are in leaders. So if you gather not the leaders, how they can be leaders, if they do not play as leaders? And these Olympics we had to have the man who could had pulled the team in tough moments, "- taught her mind former Kaunas Zalgiris and Lithuanian national team player.
                    Indeed ,our previous generation had them players who were regularly averaging 20 or so points in the teams they were playing for .
                    Jasikevicius, Siskauskas, Kleiza, Stombergas , Siskauskas, Brothers and many more ,all were able to score at will .
                    This team consisted of the players who are used to score 10 points per game ,god willing .
                    I am gonna give 10 points to Mantas and gonna pray that he can stay healthy for another 5 years ,because we gonna need him .
                    Is very pitty we lost Kleiza he was true leader for this team
                    Silver medal at 2016 olympics prediction game

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                    • Originally posted by CHBB View Post
                      It should have been expanded to 16 this year. This was the year to do it.
                      It means +48 players,coaching stuff etc.They didn't have enough condoms to share
                      1997 - 2012 - 2013

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                      • Originally posted by Ashtrusis_dantis View Post
                        If EC 2017 means nothing we should rest our veterans and send young players.
                        You realize that the next Eurobasket is in 2021. So it's once every four years from now on. Starting next year. And I don't see how a Eurobasket can mean nothing. It is arguably tougher the the World Cup and as tough as the Olympics.
                        PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011 - 2024

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                        • Originally posted by CoachZ View Post
                          Because you tried to zone shooting teams way too much with a short rotation. You can gamble a bit but if you do it too much, you can't get to the shots. If you know you don't have that luxury you don't do it.
                          but that's the thing though - we don't really have a choice but to play zone defense. All of our guards are mediocre to horrible on defense and they can't stop anybody 1 on 1 whatsoever. That's why our bigs have to help all the time and cracks in our zone defense are so easy to exploit for any competent team

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                          • Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                            You realize that the next Eurobasket is in 2021. So it's once every four years from now on. Starting next year. And I don't see how a Eurobasket can mean nothing. It is arguably tougher the the World Cup and as tough as the Olympics.
                            Not to the fans,but for the players means less motivation if a good tournament does not guarantee you an Olympic berth.Especially now with the expansion of EL games,a lost of veterans could find the chance to rest.Not even mentioning the NBA prospects who would pass it like a salt.FIBA fucked us up,this time.
                            1997 - 2012 - 2013

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                            • Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                              You realize that the next Eurobasket is in 2021. So it's once every four years from now on. Starting next year. And I don't see how a Eurobasket can mean nothing. It is arguably tougher the the World Cup and as tough as the Olympics.
                              Next eurobasket 2017 in Finland Israel Romania and Turkey.
                              Silver medal at 2016 olympics prediction game

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                              • Originally posted by madmax View Post
                                but that's the thing though - we don't really have a choice but to play zone defense. All of our guards are mediocre to horrible on defense and they can't stop anybody 1 on 1 whatsoever. That's why our bigs have to help all the time and cracks in our zone defense are so easy to exploit for any competent team
                                I thought that Sabonis' defense was already elite and JV has eclipsed Sabonis Sr.

                                Joking aside. You cannot play the same defense all game, you have to adjust sometimes. But tempting your fate 3 games in a row with a same defensive gameplan is just bad. Plain bad. All my love to Kalnietis and Jankunas who showed up for this tournament. The others never came off the plane...

                                You were not convincing or played well in none of the 6 games in the tournament.

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