2016 Olympic Power Rankings

[vuxsa]

Well many put Serbia in tier 2 along with Spain, France (and maybe) Lithuania, I guess we're now for tier 3.

[CoachZ]

More injuries could happen, so things could change. We are weaker now, I wouldn't say so much that we cannot still have a good result, but we will have to play at 100% every single game. Here is how I would rank the teams.

Tier 1
USA - Bar None

Tier 2a
Spain
France

Tier 2b
Serbia
Lithuania

Tier 3
Croatia
Argentina
Australia
Brazil

Tier 4
Nigeria

Tier 5
Venezuela
China

[Picek]

losing last years (Fenerbahce) Bjelica is a loss.
losing Bjelica who played his last game in april, who didn't practice 'cause of injury and who had a bad first season in NBA?
even if he was cleared to play no one can know which Bjelica would show up and how affected with injury he would be?
the only mistake Đorđević made was that he waited too long, he should have known this was a possibility.

[usagre]

He didn't have a bad year in the Nba. He was a rotation player who had a difficult time on the defensive end. But all in all I think he was fine considering the adjustment. And obviously it's hard to compare his Euroleague season the previous year to his rookie nba season because the competition is night and day.

[Picek]

He didn't have a bad year in the Nba. He was a rotation player who had a difficult time on the defensive end. But all in all I think he was fine considering the adjustment. And obviously it's hard to compare his Euroleague season the previous year to his rookie nba season because the competition is night and day.

reigning euroleague MVP in a team with 29-53 record and only 18 min per game?
regardless of Towns, Garnett etc. he deserved more..

[usagre]

reigning euroleague MVP in a team with 29-53 record and only 18 min per game?
regardless of Towns, Garnett etc. he deserved more..

You have a point. But a lot has to do with injuries and he was constantly having problems on the defensive end.
Before his injuries started for the first 12 games of the season he actually averaged 26.5 minutes.

[CoachZ]

You have a point. But a lot has to do with injuries and he was constantly having problems on the defensive end.
Before his injuries started for the first 12 games of the season he actually averaged 26.5 minutes.

Actually I think it had much more to do with the fact that he was ICE COLD after the first 20 games. He basically couldn't hit shit. So they just wrote him out of the offense. So when his minutes dropped, he got also like 2 shots a game. Noone can post stats with that usage.

[usagre]

Actually I think it had much more to do with the fact that he was ICE COLD after the first 20 games. He basically couldn't hit shit. So they just wrote him out of the offense. So when his minutes dropped, he got also like 2 shots a game. Noone can post stats with that usage.

I think you're right. I looked it up. He played 60 games. His first 30 he averaged more minutes but shot 42% and 33% from 3. His next 30 games he shot 52% and 45% from 3.

[IronUnion]

I got my own system. I put every player from a roster in different tier, according to his level and then count all the points. For instance, Kevin Durant - tier 1a. 3.5 mastership points. I count all USA Rosters points and got 37 mastership points. 42 is a top limit. My power list is:

1. USA. 37 points (roster) and 17 (starting five)
2. Spain. 25.5 and 12
3. France. 24.5 and 13
4-5. Serbia. 20 and 9.5
4-5. Lithuania. 20 and 9.5-10
6. Croatia. 19.5 and 9-10
7. Australia. 19 and 9.5
8. Brazil. 18 and 10
9. Argentina. 16.5 and 8.5
10. Nigeria. 14-15 and 7-8 (unknown final roster)
11. China. 13 and 6-7
12. Venezuela. 9 and 6-7

Now i put teams in tiers:

1. Gold medals with 90-100% accuracy: USA
2a. High chances to win medals: Spain, France
2b. Quite good chances to win medals: Serbia, Lithuania, Croatia, Australia.
2c. Smaller chances to win medals: Brazil, Argentina.
3a. No chances to win medals, but they will be hard nuts to win against: Nigeria.
3b. No chances to win medals, they will supply competitors with cheap points: China, Venezuela.

https://keturtaskis.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/2016-uju-rio-olimpiados-krepsinio-rinktiniu-galios-palyginimas/

This is my article on this theme, but in lithuanian language, not english.

[CoachZ]

I got my own system. I put every player from a roster in different tier, according to his level and then count all the points. For instance, Kevin Durant - tier 1a. 3.5 mastership points. I count all USA Rosters points and got 37 mastership points. 42 is a top limit. My power list is:

1. USA. 37 points (roster) and 17 (starting five)
2. Spain. 25.5 and 12
3. France. 24.5 and 13
4-5. Serbia. 20 and 9.5
4-5. Lithuania. 20 and 9.5-10
6. Croatia. 19.5 and 9-10
7. Australia. 19 and 9.5
8. Brazil. 18 and 10
9. Argentina. 16.5 and 8.5
10. Nigeria. 14-15 and 7-8 (unknown final roster)
11. China. 13 and 6-7
12. Venezuela. 9 and 6-7

Now i put teams in tiers:

1. Gold medals with 90-100% accuracy: USA
2a. High chances to win medals: Spain, France
2b. Quite good chances to win medals: Serbia, Lithuania, Croatia, Australia.
2c. Smaller chances to win medals: Brazil, Argentina.
3a. No chances to win medals, but they will be hard nuts to win against: Nigeria.
3b. No chances to win medals, they will supply competitors with cheap points: China, Venezuela.

https://keturtaskis.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/2016-uju-rio-olimpiados-krepsinio-rinktiniu-galios-palyginimas/

This is my article on this theme, but in lithuanian language, not english.

So basically you make power rankings based on player quality and nothing else? No scheme, style of play etc etc etc. So for example a team with 3 NBA high level players and two total retards in the starting five still scores high??? That makes very very little sense. I would to see in which tiers you ranked players for the each team. That would be great.

[kosicar]

So basically you make power rankings based on player quality and nothing else? No scheme, style of play etc etc etc. So for example a team with 3 NBA high level players and two total retards in the starting five still scores high??? That makes very very little sense. I would to see in which tiers you ranked players for the each team. That would be great.

You have that in posted link. It is in Lithuanian, but it is easily understandable..

[remigijus]

Olympic Rankings according to bleacherreport

1. United States

2. France

3. Spain

4. Lithuania

5. Australia

6. Serbia

7. Brazil

8. Argentina

9. Croatia

10. Nigeria

11. Venezuela

12. China

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2654203-ranking-team-usa-and-each-mens-basketball-team-headed-to-2016-summer-olympics

[CoachZ]

You have that in posted link. It is in Lithuanian, but it is easily understandable..

Yeah just seen it. As soon as I saw Sabonis and Jankunas in same tier with Bogdanovic and Teodosic, I stopped reading. Also using NBA2K ratings to rate players, that is just

[unnamed]

I got my own system. I put every player from a roster in different tier, according to his level and then count all the points. For instance, Kevin Durant - tier 1a. 3.5 mastership points. I count all USA Rosters points and got 37 mastership points. 42 is a top limit. My power list is:

1. USA. 37 points (roster) and 17 (starting five)
2. Spain. 25.5 and 12
3. France. 24.5 and 13
4-5. Serbia. 20 and 9.5
4-5. Lithuania. 20 and 9.5-10
6. Croatia. 19.5 and 9-10
7. Australia. 19 and 9.5
8. Brazil. 18 and 10
9. Argentina. 16.5 and 8.5
10. Nigeria. 14-15 and 7-8 (unknown final roster)
11. China. 13 and 6-7
12. Venezuela. 9 and 6-7

Now i put teams in tiers:

1. Gold medals with 90-100% accuracy: USA
2a. High chances to win medals: Spain, France
2b. Quite good chances to win medals: Serbia, Lithuania, Croatia, Australia.
2c. Smaller chances to win medals: Brazil, Argentina.
3a. No chances to win medals, but they will be hard nuts to win against: Nigeria.
3b. No chances to win medals, they will supply competitors with cheap points: China, Venezuela.

https://keturtaskis.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/2016-uju-rio-olimpiados-krepsinio-rinktiniu-galios-palyginimas/

This is my article on this theme, but in lithuanian language, not english.

Similar to what I use, except I don't rate the players based on my own opinion, but rather the offensive performance through the season. Now because there are many players from NBA, Euroleague and Eurocup I take top 100 players of the league (taking into account average playing time as well), find the correlation and get the leagues ratio(NBA/Euroleague, Euroleague/Eurocup). Then I make two categories TOP 7 and TOP 8 players of the team and I expect them to play 80% in most of the matches. After that I find max(TOP 7, TOP 8) and thats basically the strength of the team. Starting five alone can't be decisive, that's why I take two-three subs.

[Hepcat]

So basically you make power rankings based on player quality and nothing else? No scheme, style of play etc etc etc.

I agree. You can't extrapolate to a team rating from individual player ratings, particularly if these player ratings come from NBA2K.