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  • #61
    Originally posted by R1ou View Post
    The "I like Serbian bbal school" guy has ranked Serbia twice 4th at the group and then again twice to be eliminated from the first knockout,while he thinks that Lithuania will win either silver or bronze.Get serious one time,you make other members show disrespectful behaviours towards Lithuanian guys because of your arrogant posts.


    It's just my opinion and nothing else (I justify your opinion - your poorly completed in positions) of course if your front-line join Boban, you can take group and a higher place.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by kougen View Post
      My rankings at this moment:
      1. United States
      2. Lithuania
      Finally non-Lithuanian poster overrated Lithuania in ranking thread Quite historical post I must say People tend to hate consistent results of Lithuania (which they always treat as over achievement) and I doubt it's only because of annoyance of Lith posters. And most people are ready to absolutely ignore the fact that Lithuania stands as 4th-3rd team in FIBA ranking like forever any minute. I have to say I grew out of that complex, used to take it kinda emotionally (and there always be the ones like G&B at the moment as far as this forum exists), but now I don't care a bit, even though I want my NT to do good.
      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
      Buzelis, Lelevicius
      Murauskas, Sirvydis
      Tubelis, Krivas

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
        Finally non-Lithuanian poster overrated Lithuania in ranking thread Quite historical post I must say People tend to hate consistent results of Lithuania (which they always treat as over achievement) and I doubt it's only because of annoyance of Lith posters. And most people are ready to absolutely ignore the fact that Lithuania stands as 4th-3rd team in FIBA ranking like forever any minute. I have to say I grew out of that complex, used to take it kinda emotionally (and there always be the ones like G&B at the moment as far as this forum exists), but now I don't care a bit, even though I want my NT to do good.
        yes, your post shows that you are clearly over it..
        "Heja, heja Cibosi, hrabri kao vukovi,

        heja, heja cibosi, vodite nas k pobjedi. "

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Picek View Post
          yes, your post shows that you are clearly over it..
          LOL...I'm getting better, I hope you'll give me that
          Last edited by Straight forward; 07-13-2016, 06:37 PM.
          LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

          Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
          Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
          Buzelis, Lelevicius
          Murauskas, Sirvydis
          Tubelis, Krivas

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          • #65
            Do you think Croatia and/or Serbia can get a medal? I hope so as I love the jugobasket.
            CIGARAFTERTEN - WE LOVE EUROLEAGUE 2016/2017

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            • #66
              Originally posted by cigarafterten2016 View Post
              Do you think Croatia and/or Serbia can get a medal? I hope so as I love the jugobasket.
              For Serbia it depends how groups go. There's also a question mark about Bjelica still, who will most likely play, but you never know. So assuming he's there and if 2nd place is secured somehow, which is possible, then whoever is 3rd from group B can definitely be defeated. After that it's semis against Spain most likely, or maybe France, either of which can be won as well, I'd give it 50% chance, and there's the medal. Having 3rd place in group most likely means facing USA in semis, and being 4th most likely means Spain in quarter finals, so chances drop significantly. You never know though, no one can tell you how will Spain place in group B, knowing how slow they usually start. Also if Serbia loses semis, I wouldn't bet on that team in bronze medal game, they almost never fight for 3rd place.

              For Croatia it doesn't look good. They are highly unlikely to make it to top of group B, and will in any case most likely have to face one of the big 3 from group A in quarter finals, which is a game they are almost sure to lose.

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              • #67
                At least the USA is going to have some tough opponents as of the QF as well as in the group phase. In the last two international tournaments they played some good teams starting the semi's.

                I will be supporting every team who plays against the USA. The last time they lost was a decade ago already. Only France, Serbia and Spain stand a chance in beating them.
                PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011 - 2024

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                  At least the USA is going to have some tough opponents as of the QF as well as in the group phase. In the last two international tournaments they played some good teams starting the semi's.

                  I will be supporting every team who plays against the USA. The last time they lost was a decade ago already. Only France, Serbia and Spain stand a chance in beating them.
                  Not true. 2014 was weak competition until the semis. But 2012 they played France, Argentina and Lithuania in Preliminary group play. And the Lithuania game was tougher and closer than the final vs Spain.
                  Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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                  • #69
                    I see bitching started again and again there will be the same situation - other fans will cry how terrible Lithuanian fans are, but it won't be us who after win or loss of other teams will come to discussions of other teams to tell that they are not that good, they were just lucky and so on, and so on... Ou no, that will be some Turkish, some Serbian, some Russian and few other guys who will come to our discussion (even if we were not playing their team) to tell all that and + to tell us what a terrible fans we are...

                    Ok, back to rating:

                    1.USA (there is no question about it)

                    2. Spain, France, Serbia, Lithuania. In that particular order. Difference is small and anyone can beat anyone at particular day, but chances of victory would be like Spain-France 55-45, Spain-Serbia 60-40, Spain-Lithuania 65-35. You get the idea.

                    3. Croatia, Brasil, Argentina. Croatia looked good and i'm in big doubt. I wanted to put Croatia in second group, didn't put in only because they brake in elimination round for last decade. But I wouldn't be surprised if that would be their tournament. Brasil next because I don't think home walls is such a factor, it can be a distraction and additional pressure (call it a scar of EC2011 ). Argentina is the third because they are really old... And their old stars don't have strong supporting crew.

                    4. Venezuela, Nigeria, China.

                    I am very surprised people think Lithuania will have weaker team when in EC2015. Are you serious? Valanciunas improved hugely, Kuzminskas improved hugely, Kalnietis looks much much better compared to the last year, Jankunas had a great season and looks at his peak, Maciulis is simply Maciulis, finally we have some young PG/SG/SF (Marius Grigonis, Edgaras Ulanovas) who has size, spead and strength to guard their oponents and give 10-15 min. rest to main players - Kalnietis was barely walking last year in the semifinal and final playing all tournament 35 min. per game and we are worse? Someone is not thinking. And all that cry about friendly games... Is it a joke? Seibutis didn't look good last year in friendlies, but was saving our asses against Serbia with his one on one game, Domantas Sabonis looked great in friendlies last year so what? Who remembers Vasiliauskas who looked fantastic in friendly games? The way how players spend their season is much better indicator. We have much more balanced team and we are worse? Ok believe what you want.
                    Last edited by Ashtrusis_dantis; 07-14-2016, 07:59 PM.

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                    • #70
                      I also believe that everything will be fine, although Motiejunas loss is a great loss, but I believe that Kazlauskas prepare 99% of the remaining players.

                      And if this team medals disaster it will be a failure.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                        At least the USA is going to have some tough opponents as of the QF as well as in the group phase. In the last two international tournaments they played some good teams starting the semi's.

                        I will be supporting every team who plays against the USA. The last time they lost was a decade ago already. Only France, Serbia and Spain stand a chance in beating them.
                        Forget it man.Noone will stop USA's domination.Bad news for the rest of the wolrd but the times of USA sending teams led by Shawn Marion,Richard Jefferson or the corpse of Reggie Miller are long gone and arent coming back.The moment USA understood the importance of 3 point play it was game over for the rest of the world..Cant wait to see euro teams against a line up of Irving-Klay-George-Durant-Green..it's gonna be fun.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by G&B View Post
                          And if this team medals disaster it will be a failure.
                          What? You mean if this team will not win medals it will be a failure? I don't think so. There are 8 teams who can win medals, 7 of them are almost the same level and there are only 3 medals (ok, most realistically 2), so not wining a medal will not be a disaster. Not getting out of a group would be a disaster.
                          Last edited by Ashtrusis_dantis; 07-14-2016, 09:13 PM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Ashtrusis_dantis View Post
                            What? You mean if this team would not win medals it will be a failure? I don't think so. There are 8 teams who can win medals, 7 of them are almost the same level and there are only 3 medals (ok, most realistically 2), so not wining a medal will not be a disaster. Not getting out of a group would be a disaster.

                            Well, we now have a more complete team than the silvery EC 2013 and EC-2015 and especially the 2014 CM. Essentially, the EC is still above the level of the OG and especially CM, since the EC is not a command tourists. So OG and CM contribute one extra class team, the other is below the class, such as Venezuela is South America's champion, but is it better than OG unpublished Greece, Italy?

                            So bronze medals as EC vice-champion of the last two would be minimum OG.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by G&B View Post
                              Well, we now have a more complete team than the silvery EC 2013 and EC-2015 and especially the 2014 CM. Essentially, the EC is still above the level of the OG and especially CM, since the EC is not a command tourists. So OG and CM contribute one extra class team, the other is below the class, such as Venezuela is South America's champion, but is it better than OG unpublished Greece, Italy?

                              So bronze medals as EC vice-champion of the last two would be minimum OG.
                              Man, it seems like you just learn basics of mathematics and are trying to use it to calculate result in basketball in different tournaments... OG is stronger when EC no doubt, you forgot how our group looked in EC? There are only 12 teams in OG and tournament is shorter and much more intense. There is no time to use the same tactic we used in EC "lets calculate and reach our peak in 1/4". Every game is live or die and in our death group you have to be at peak from the first game.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
                                Forget it man.Noone will stop USA's domination.Bad news for the rest of the wolrd but the times of USA sending teams led by Shawn Marion,Richard Jefferson or the corpse of Reggie Miller are long gone and arent coming back.The moment USA understood the importance of 3 point play it was game over for the rest of the world..Cant wait to see euro teams against a line up of Irving-Klay-George-Durant-Green..it's gonna be fun.
                                everyone thinks Green will start but I would put some money on Cousins starting over him and Green either being the starting 4 or the backup 4.

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