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  • Shawshank
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    I think both sides will say same arguments all over again ...

    1) Ok That timeout maybe there were some mistake by our coach and it could look like not to showing respect,but all we wanted is to make last possesions prepared because we thought diference can make some role (and our coach was right!)

    2) there left 30s nigeria leading by 6 points (80-86) for lithuania lose 1-9 points its ok we getting 1 spot...So WHY THE HELL WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT HOST MAKING IN TOO SECOnd round ANd RISKING LOOSING 1SPOT??? nobody from venezulains fans arent answering this argument we asked so many times before...Its your problem, not ours,we have our own problem finishing 1 in the group!

    How about after game venezualian players and coaches do not shaked our hand and do not cangratulated us with the win? and acting like gods of the world after game...Even when we kicked their asses in front of their fans (100-82)...and their coaches begun to call our coach a clown and acting like child who dont know how to lose to stronger team...

    Later all week venezualians organizators tryied to make our life as much as possible more miserable,with crushed buss before most important game 1/4 with puerto riko and so on... do not showing any respect to our national anthem and our flag...

    THE MAIN REASON WE GOT SUCH REACTION WAS BECAUSE we eliminated host team form this tournanement its obviuos..all other its just escuses from venezualian side.JUST POOR TEAM AND NATION THAT DO NOT know how to lose with pride...


    SO im asking WHO ACTED LIKE ASSHOLES WE OR VENEZUALIANS ???


    at the end of the day all those dirty tricks of venezulians organizators made our team more united and more motivated...and we see the result of it...
    Last edited by Shawshank; 07-08-2012, 06:54 PM.

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  • Terrorizer
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    Originally posted by Illegal2k10 View Post
    Im 100% sure russians will be maaaaaaad if that would happen to them. how would u like your national anthem being booed at your national day(June 12 isnt it?) your coach called a clown or lack of normal organizacion, which was mentioned earlier.
    Actually not only our national anthem was booed in the recent foorball Euro in Poland exactly in the June 12 but our fans (and not those hools who are looking for a fight anywhere but mostly casual fans) were attacked and beaten for no reason whatsoever in the exactly same date. It happened not in the South America but in a European country though not a very developed one. So what would you say about THAT organization?
    By the way, June 12 isn't very popular here in Russia mainly because of its former name: Independence Day which implies that Russia wasn't independent before 1991. Well, since Golden Horde Yoke which ended in XIV-XV centuries Russia was never a dependent territory so this bullshit of a holiday isn't favoured by most people in Russia. You know, it's like France chose some date in 1968 where their new constitution was drafted and name it Independence Day.

    Originally posted by Illegal2k10 View Post
    dont get me wrong we are not afraid of that crowd and we dont care about them, but the lack of class by people who are there and below-avarage organizacion level makes this tournament look like a joke.
    Let me get some things clear: I'm always against booing national anthem (no matter of which country) and the tourney wasn't well-organized. My main point was that most probably there is no natural hate for all things Lithuanian amongst Venezuelans, it's just the matter of coincidence as they thought that you're humiliating their team (I'm not on their side in the first occasion with this TO though it wasn't a very polite thing to do from Kemzura but I understand their negative reaction towards a suspicious ending of the game between LTU and NGR). Still I think that having more international events outside Europe is a good thing because of popularization of our sports and on the grounds of equality and brotherhood among big international basketball family. I believe these countries would learn on their mistakes and the level of organization of major bball tournaments in non-European countries would gradually increase.
    We, Europeans, are the best in organization of tournaments and have the best basketball (aside from USA) and transport infrastructure but it's unjust to bball fans from other parts of the world not to have a chance to see a major tournament on their own soil.

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  • Mindozas
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    Originally posted by -K2- View Post
    ur national anthem would have not been booed if ur team didnt acted like stupid assholes in an international tournament against the home team



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  • J-Mart
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    ur national anthem would have not been booed if ur team didnt acted like stupid assholes in an international tournament against the home team

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  • Illegal2k10
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    Originally posted by Terrorizer View Post
    I think that Russia, France or Spain would have no problems with the crowd in Venezuela. I don't even think that Venezuelans hate Lithuania for them 'being American lackeys' or something like that. The main reasons for dislike of your team in Venezuela are: 1) Kemzura's mocking time-out and 2) the fact that you stopped playing against Nigeria in the last minute which was a shame really and if I was Venezuelan I would be really mad at Lithuanian NT for that.
    Im 100% sure russians will be maaaaaaad if that would happen to them. how would u like your national anthem being booed at your national day(June 12 isnt it?) your coach called a clown or lack of normal organizacion, which was mentioned earlier.

    dont get me wrong we are not afraid of that crowd and we dont care about them, but the lack of class by people who are there and below-avarage organizacion level makes this tournament look like a joke.

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  • thegreekmeister
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    Originally posted by Terrorizer View Post
    I think that Russia, France or Spain would have no problems with the crowd in Venezuela. I don't even think that Venezuelans hate Lithuania for them 'being American lackeys' or something like that. The main reasons for dislike of your team in Venezuela are: 1) Kemzura's mocking time-out and 2) the fact that you stopped playing against Nigeria in the last minute which was a shame really and if I was Venezuelan I would be really mad at Lithuanian NT for that.
    This does not look like intelligent post.

    1) timeout was 100% justified, its the tournament system where point differences count. If it was say playoff game then it would have been mock timeout.
    2) they stopped playing when it was about -6 and less than minute, it was clear that game is almost lost and it would have been plain stupid to go for the win when you can waste points differential and finish 2nd in the group. Save differential was up to -10. It was the obvious smart move, it would have been stupid to do otherwise.

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  • Raze Lupin
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    Originally posted by Terrorizer View Post
    I think that Russia, France or Spain would have no problems with the crowd in Venezuela. I don't even think that Venezuelans hate Lithuania for them 'being American lackeys' or something like that. The main reasons for dislike of your team in Venezuela are: 1) Kemzura's mocking time-out and 2) the fact that you stopped playing against Nigeria in the last minute which was a shame really and if I was Venezuelan I would be really mad at Lithuanian NT for that.
    Truth!

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  • Terrorizer
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    Originally posted by Hepcat View Post
    Yes, but you can't generalize from Venezuela to all of Latin America. Venezuela is the fiefdom of neo-Marxist Hugo Chavez, and is not exactly friendly to any nations from the OECD or the European Union.

    I think that Russia, France or Spain would have no problems with the crowd in Venezuela. I don't even think that Venezuelans hate Lithuania for them 'being American lackeys' or something like that. The main reasons for dislike of your team in Venezuela are: 1) Kemzura's mocking time-out and 2) the fact that you stopped playing against Nigeria in the last minute which was a shame really and if I was Venezuelan I would be really mad at Lithuanian NT for that.

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  • Hepcat
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    Originally posted by MrMojoRisin View Post
    If FIBA makes any tournament again in South America in the near future, that will be a big shame, because latinos don't know nothing about basketball, respect to other teams, fair play and basically, common courtesy. Our national anthem was booed off before the game(that was the first time I heard anthem being booed off), our bus "broke down" while going to practice, before the game staff "forgot" to bring water to our team. It's inexcusable. I'm very disappointed either with organisation and people of a country, where this event is held.
    Yes, but you can't generalize from Venezuela to all of Latin America. Venezuela is the fiefdom of neo-Marxist Hugo Chavez, and is not exactly friendly to any nations from the OECD or the European Union.

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  • LFGC79
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    Originally posted by saalsapr View Post

    Flor is not a bad coach, the team just needs to be taught to defend without fouling. Both Greece and Lithuania shot 31 free throws.

    The great thing about Flor, is that since he came we've at least crushed every team we should beat. With Manolo we would lose to Uruguay, Mexico, Ivory Coast, Trinidad and Tobago, etc.
    ^^^^ This....

    Is part of the problem....

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  • Olympiacos
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    Originally posted by Raze Lupin View Post
    WORD! Good point. If Barea makes that same lob to Dirk, Love or Melo its game over! It was still a bad play in this instance but you have a valid point. PR should be proud Europe is no longer clearly superior to the FIBA Americas.
    I take it this is your first ever time seeing a FIBA tournament.

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  • shaolin95
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    It was a tough game but at the end , the team with more poise came on top. That is the true and no more BS about bad calls etc. We always put a good fight against any team but the difference is, we cannot close the show...we lack that and that is why we are not in the top 10 at this moment.
    Congratulations to my Lithuanian brothers. I wish you move on and get to the games, I will be supporting you for sure (except if you play the USA of course which is my other team
    We are close to having a pretty good team, but we need to take that final step of making the right calls when it really counts.

    Regards

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  • kestiz
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    Originally posted by -K2- View Post
    Can't blame venezuelans, I would have been banned from this forums if it was to Puerto Rico what u guys did to Venezuela.
    What exactly? Are you one of those guys who seriously think that LTU lost to Nigeria on purpose? Did you guys atleast watch that match?

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  • saalsapr
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    Originally posted by -K2- View Post
    Im afraid that was Daniel Santiago last game with Puerto Rico NT

    Arroyo explained to the press that the Barea turnover was a play for Peavy and Barea but Peavy froze on the play and Barea had to improvise.

    We missed the Olympics, some may blame the coach and shit like that but we really should be proud and happy of what they did and be opptimistic for things to come. Of course we could improve in some areas, but still it's better than the disaster we had in 2010.
    Yeah, good thing I prepared myself mentally for a loss now Im over it.

    Flor is not a bad coach, the team just needs to be taught to defend without fouling. Both Greece and Lithuania shot 31 free throws.

    The great thing about Flor, is that since he came we've at least crushed every team we should beat. With Manolo we would lose to Uruguay, Mexico, Ivory Coast, Trinidad and Tobago, etc.

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  • auris1
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    Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
    .As our commentator yesterday was so happy with win and said to the venezualian --> you can go and F*** yourself with such organization and he said what mostly lithuanian think...
    Haha true.
    I remember that.Kunigelis got overwhelmed I guess
    And there is interview with Saras where he is asked if he heard commentators words-
    brilliant answer - I do not play with with TV in my hands
    I am probably still drunk,but I laugh so hard that "..never mind
    I think journalist are a little to close tothe team
    Living together etc
    Not healthy

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