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  • #61
    Originally posted by tmlouk View Post
    greece could play with their B team, which were in Australia last week, and they wouldn`t have any problems
    since you're mocking the others, what's your National Team then !?
    a little respect to others, this is Asian Basketball Level.... No Comparison between Asia and Europe!
    we did not expect the win nor a better result and we mentioned the reasons before......

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    • #62
      Hey guys, let's not read too much into this. Greece hit a lot of their outside shots. When Greece is hitting their 3's well - no one can beat them. Not Spain, not USA, nobody. The problem for Greece is that normally, they struggle to hit outside shots and have weakness against zone. Although without Diamantidis, I always find that Greece has way better ball movement and thus handles the zone better.

      When Greece is hitting a lot of 3's, no one beats them, not even Team USA. Greece beat Canada by something like 120 - 47 because they were also having a good shooting game from outside.

      So let's not just take this score too seriously. I don't think Greece is necessarily a plus 44 against Jordan in a realistic truth. Just like they were not realistically a +73 against Canada. Then again, Spanoulis barely even had the ball and was hardly even trying and they still scored 107. But I think Jordan just gave up early.

      Both teams tried to conserve energy after that like 21-0 run Greece had.

      Originally posted by mochoso View Post
      On Wednesday, Puerto Rico will beat Greece. They look strong today, but against a weak Jordan team.
      Everyone (well except USA) admits and knows that Puerto Rico has a very nice team and they are always tough. But how can you be so confident as this? Calm down man, and wait for the game. It should be a good game.

      But I don't see any way that you can just flat out say Puerto Rico is beating Greece. You sound like those annoying NBA only fans that think a team's strength is solely based on how many NBA players it has.

      I am not expecting any easy game for Greece, but come on, Puerto Rico has their hands full with Greece and they are the underdog.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by OSHAFA View Post
        Greece is playing great and not missing any shot!
        this is what we call a World Class Team, i thin that Greece will get a medal in the Olympics this Summer
        from the beginning we did not expect a better result than Korea, Tab Baldwin's main focus is on Puerto Rico's game though i doubt that we can match up with them but am sure we are going to give them a hard time
        The level of the world elites is extremely high. Greece has the potential to be part of that group, but they can only medal if their two missing centers (Sofo and Koufos) will be added to their team after they manage to qualify for the Olympics. At the medal stage you have to deal with quality big men inside.

        The good thing is that this Greek team is rebuilding and has a young roster along with four veterans who are not that old either. So already playing at this level is good news.

        Greece today showed their opponents that they can be lethal if they are allowed to shoot.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Victorious View Post
          The level of the world elites is extremely high. Greece has the potential to be part of that group, but they can only medal if their two missing centers (Sofo and Koufos) will be added to their team after they manage to qualify for the Olympics. At the medal stage you have to deal with quality big men inside.

          The good thing is that this Greek team is rebuilding and has a young roster along with four veterans who are not that old either. So already playing at this level is good news.

          Greece today showed their opponents that they can be lethal if they are allowed to shoot.
          Today Bramos played great, Mavroeidis had 15...we obviously can't expect that against the best teams if we qualify at the Olympics. However, you can see in this game that you guys are too hard on Mavroeidis. He is better on defense than both Sofo and Koufos. Sofo and Koufos and Bourousis is the best offensive center rotation on the planet, but it leaves a lot to be desired on defense.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by OSHAFA View Post
            since you're mocking the others, what's your National Team then !?
            a little respect to others, this is Asian Basketball Level.... No Comparison between Asia and Europe!
            we did not expect the win nor a better result and we mentioned the reasons before......
            spain...but if i would live in estonia, poland, netherlands i would say the same...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Olympiacos View Post
              Today Bramos played great, Mavroeidis had 15...we obviously can't expect that against the best teams if we qualify at the Olympics. However, you can see in this game that you guys are too hard on Mavroeidis. He is better on defense than both Sofo and Koufos. Sofo and Koufos and Bourousis is the best offensive center rotation on the planet, but it leaves a lot to be desired on defense.
              I agree about Mavroeidis we are been abit hard on him but Bramos played great ? He was bad today . Only in the last quarter he showed some good signs

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Olympiacos View Post
                Sofo and Koufos and Bourousis is the best offensive center rotation on the planet, but it leaves a lot to be desired on defense.
                It's one of the best center rotations. Not the best. It's a medal team rotation. And this is exactly my point. If Greece wants to medal, they need to be on the team. If they can't be on the team, we are going to have a good tournament and hope for the best. But in that case Zouros would have made a big mistake in not inviting Vouyoukias. Bourousis, Vouyoukas, Mavroidis would also do.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                  It's one of the best center rotations. Not the best. It's a medal team rotation. And this is exactly my point. If Greece wants to medal, they need to be on the team. If they can't be on the team, we are going to have a good tournament and hope for the best. But in that case Zouros would have made a big mistake in not inviting Vouyoukias. Bourousis, Vouyoukas, Mavroidis would also do.
                  Which team has a better center rotation than Bourousis/Sofo/Koufos? I can't think of a single team.

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                  • #69
                    Greece is looking good! Hellas will be a dark horse in the Olympics.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by mochoso View Post
                      On Wednesday, Puerto Rico will beat Greece. They look strong today, but against a weak Jordan team.
                      Ten posts and Im still waiting for you to contribute something to this forum other than spending them nuthugging our national team.
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                      the land of the free and the home of the brave is the greatest joke I've ever heard. There is no such thing as liberty and the american dream is more overrated than Japeth Aguilar was when u guys found he was a pinoy
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by adamosmaki View Post
                        I agree about Mavroeidis we are been abit hard on him but Bramos played great ? He was bad today . Only in the last quarter he showed some good signs
                        I meant great for his standards. If you understand me...

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by saalsapr View Post
                          Ten posts and Im still waiting for you to contribute something to this forum other than spending them nuthugging our national team.
                          mochoso Puerto Rico its a good team and one of the 3 ( the other 2 DR and Fyrom with Venezuela been a dark horse ) that is most likely to pull an upset over Lithuania/Greece/Russia but saying with certainty you will beat Greece just because you have some players in the NBA shows arrogance on your behalf. Greece still has the edge but it will be a tough game. I'd say
                          60-40% for Greece to win ( PR always are giving us hard time though we do manage to win in the end by a small margin and hopefully history will repeat again )

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Olympiacos View Post
                            Which team has a better center rotation than ? I can't think of a single team.
                            You made a claim that Bourousis/Sofo/Koufos is the best center rotation. While these are better:
                            Spain: Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Ibaka
                            USA: Chandler, Odom, Love
                            Argentina: Scola, Oberto, Guiterez

                            There are more which are just as good. Like Turkey.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                              You made a claim that Bourousis/Sofo/Koufos is the best center rotation. While these are better:
                              Spain: Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Ibaka
                              USA: Chandler, Odom, Love
                              Argentina: Scola, Oberto, Guiterez

                              There are more which are just as good. Like Turkey.
                              Pau Gasol does not play center anymore. He plays at PF now for Spain. Argentina? No way. Oberto is ancient and he's retired and not playing. Scola is a zero on defense. The only one even in the discussion is the USA, and honestly, it's way too undersized to handle Greece's 3, if they went head to head.

                              So, in fact, if Greece has all three of their main centers, I think it's the best one in the world. Unless you want to assume that Kevin Love and Odom can guard those Greeks in the half court, which I don't think is happening. Kevin Love is smaller than Kavvadas is. And about Odom - how can you assume he can even play now? The last time we saw him on a basketball court, he was 100% done as a player.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Olympiacos View Post
                                Pau Gasol does not play center anymore. He plays at PF now for Spain. Argentina? No way. Oberto is ancient and he's retired and not playing. Scola is a zero on defense. The only once even in the discussion is the USA, and honestly, it's way too undersized to handle Greece's 3 if they went head to head.

                                So, in fact, if Greece has all three of their main centers, I think it's the best one in the world. Unless you want to assume that Kevin Love and Odom can guard those Greeks in the half court, which I think is not happening. Kevin Love is smaller than Kavvadas is.
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