Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

National teams contracts value

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • BrutalDlx
    replied
    Interesting project there, I myself pursued a similar one in my uni years, about 12 years back, comparing performance and other variables such as race, experience, diminishing returns of years played (experience squared) to NBA players' earnings.

    Whereas I myself have no data, here's a few pointers that might assist you in estimating the European teams' and Team USA's worth, once the rosters are finalised (perhaps a starting point for estimating the worth of teams from N.&S. America and Oceania too):

    - NBA franchises are obliged to announce their players' wages, and therefore you should have no problem in finding them. A fairly accurate table containing all data is here.

    -Teams in Europe don't have to disclose similar data. However, contract details of most players playing for Euroleague or Eurocup sides are here and here respectively. Whereas not official data, I've found the info gathered very reliable, based on media reports throughout Europe.

    - Considering that wages in Europe are reported net, while the NBA ones gross, you'll find it hard to compare between the two. I suggest you transform all wages to net earnings in euros, using the prevailing escalating US Federal income tax brackets (this site will help you). However, bear in mind that there might be other sources of income, such as sponsorship deals, that push the actual tax percentage on total earnings upwards, and that there might be seperate local or State taxes to be paid that vary throughout the US. Due to the complexity of calculating after-tax income, I suggest you sacrifice accuracy by use a rule-of-thumb approach (for example net=60%*gross)

    Good luck, keep us posted on your progress.

    Leave a comment:


  • planaria
    replied
    Brazilian NT is a mix between monster contracts and others really, really cheap:

    Nenê - 10,5M USD
    Leandrinho - 6,6M USD
    Varejão - 6,3M USD
    Splitter - 1,4M Euros
    Huertas - ?
    Paulão - ?
    Guilherme Giovanonni - around 30.000,00 USD
    Alex Garcia - around 25.000,00 USD
    Marcelinho Machado - around 25.000,00 USD
    Rafael Araújo - around 20.000,00 USD
    Murilo Becker - around 20.000,00 USD
    Jonathan Tavernari - 0 USD (NCAA)
    Alexandre Olivinha - around 10.000,00 USD
    JP Baptista - ?

    Leave a comment:


  • boki
    replied
    My guess (some facts) for slovenian NT players:
    Smodis: 2,5M € netto
    Nachbar 2M netto
    Lakovic 1M netto (maybe a little less with new contract)
    E. Lorbek 1,2M netto
    Beno Udrih around 6M USD brutto
    Slokar 0,3M netto
    Becirovic 0,4M netto
    D. Lorbek (only monthly contracts this year - last year around 0,3M)
    Vujacic 5M USD brutto
    Dragic 2M USD brutto
    Vidmar 0,3M netto
    Klobucar 0,2M netto
    Brezec 1M USD brutto

    Leave a comment:


  • Dorian
    replied
    I hear you. However I'm not necessarily referring to the roster of the teams that will compete in next year's world cup. I'm working on a model for work and I'm trying to identify variables that can be proven to be determinants in the management/financing related decisions for a basketball club. By identifying such a trend I can derive conclusions that can be then used in the formation of the model which will test a different hypothesis. In any event, I was just looking to see if this can be a datapoint I could use and whether it's worth researching it. Anyway, I don't want to bore you with all that.

    Thanks for all the info.

    Leave a comment:


  • yowaspopinneg
    replied
    some mistakes here, for instance siskauskas is not playing and not going to play for LT team, strange to see lithuanian dude not knowing that and including him here

    As for the thread - its way too early for it, because we do not know who is going to play and who is not for each team. Now its just bull crap, or at the very best very very aproximate

    Leave a comment:


  • Khalid80
    replied
    Originally posted by Picek View Post
    in croatian sports newspapers there was a comparison like this..
    the most interesting thing is that Nene (Brazil center) earns more per year then all croatian NT players combined
    If we were to do the same thing for our NT, all our players combined would be worth what Sofo earns in 1 year

    Leave a comment:


  • Picek
    replied
    in croatian sports newspapers there was a comparison like this..
    the most interesting thing is that Nene (Brazil center) earns more per year then all croatian NT players combined

    Leave a comment:


  • Lebanon
    replied
    The contracts value of the Lebanese NT is 80 000- 100 000$/month.
    ________
    Leeds Assembly
    Last edited by Lebanon; 04-05-2011, 02:29 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • FIBA Europe Basket
    replied
    Greece's players:

    The 2009-10 season salaries of the probable 2010 Greek national team from highest to lowest:

    Theo Papaloukas = €3.5 million euros net

    Dimitris Diamantidis = €2.1 million euros net

    Vassilis Spanoulis = €1.9 million euros net

    Ioannis Bourousis = €1.7 million euros net

    Antonis Fotsis = €1.5 million euros net

    Georgios Printezis = €1.2 million euros net

    Panagiotis Vasilopoulos = €1.2 million euros net

    Nikos Zisis = €900,000 euros net

    Sofoklis Schortsanitis = €800,000 euros net

    Stratos Perperoglou = €450,000 euros net


    I'm pretty sure that those 10 players above have a great chance to make Greece's squad. Then after that the remaining 15 Greek players that I think have a good shot at the other 2 roster spots have salaries this season like this from highest to lowest:


    Michalis Pelekanos = €700,000 euros net

    Nick Calathes = €700,000 euros net

    Kostas Vasileiadis = €500,000 euros net

    Loukas Mavrokefalidis = €500,000 euros net

    Kosta Koufos = $1,214,040 dollars gross (about €425,000 euros net)

    Andreas Glyniadakis = €250,000 euros net

    Kostas Papanikolaou = €250,000 euros net

    Manolis Papamakarios = €240,000 euros net

    Dimitrios Tsaldaris = €200,000 euros net

    Ioannis Kalampokis = €200,000 euros net

    Kostas Charalampidis = €165,000 euros net

    Ian Vougioukas = €150,000 euros net

    Marios Batis = ?

    Kostas Kaimakoglou = ?

    Dimitrios Mavroeidis = ?



    I don't know how much Batis, Mavroeidis, and Kaimakoglou make but it should not be very much. However, I can say very confidently that both Kaimakoglou and Mavroeidis will get enormous raises next season and will have quite big contracts starting next season.

    The Greek national team player pool has fairly high salaries compared to teams like USA, Spain, Argentina, France that are loaded with NBA players when you consider that they get paid in net terms and in euros, while NBA players get paid in dollars and in gross terms.

    Leave a comment:


  • Alyosha12
    replied
    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    Indeed. Slovenia always has solid roster (or even very solid on the paper), but never able to achieve their goals.
    Yeah, tell me about it

    Leave a comment:


  • Straight forward
    replied
    Originally posted by Alyosha12 View Post
    Slovenia also has some well paid players, with Smodiš, Lakovič, Brezec, Udrih, Dragič, E.Lorbek and Nachbar.
    Indeed. Slovenia always has solid roster (or even very solid on the paper), but never able to achieve their goals.

    Leave a comment:


  • Alyosha12
    replied
    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
    Well, if we would judge 5 or 10 period we could make some conclusions. IMO:

    USA stands as one of the most overpaid NT. Their budget would beat any possible NT in huge difference, but they weren't that dominating in international tournaments this decade.

    I believe France could pretend as the second most overpaid NT this decade. Parker, Diaw (NBA stars) and plenty of other NBA players mean very solid contracts and they were very unstable this decade in BB courts.

    Lithuania, Greece, I think would stand somewhere in the middle. Lithuania could be one of the best NT here while some of our key players are underrated IMO (Šiška's contract is funny compering to his contribution, Kaukėnas was somehow unknown for big clubs for the long time), but lately some Lithuanian players hit some records (Šaras, Kleiza. Guess in which country they play ) Greece players have solid contracts while their players are playing in PAO/OLY mostly.

    Spain and Argentina IMO is very adequate in the salaries and sport results. Very stable in both ends I guess

    Italy comes as the most efficient NT this decade. Without superstars (arguably) they managed to be very tough in every tournament till 2006 I guess.

    Slovenia also has some well paid players, with Smodiš, Lakovič, Brezec, Udrih, Dragič, E.Lorbek and Nachbar.

    Leave a comment:


  • Straight forward
    replied
    Well, if we would judge 5 or 10 period we could make some conclusions. IMO:

    USA stands as one of the most overpaid NT. Their budget would beat any possible NT in huge difference, but they weren't that dominating in international tournaments this decade.

    I believe France could pretend as the second most overpaid NT this decade. Parker, Diaw (NBA stars) and plenty of other NBA players mean very solid contracts and they were very unstable this decade in BB courts.

    Lithuania, Greece, I think would stand somewhere in the middle. Lithuania could be one of the best NT here while some of our key players are underrated IMO (Šiška's contract is funny compering to his contribution, Kaukėnas was somehow unknown for big clubs for the long time), but lately some Lithuanian players hit some records (Šaras, Kleiza. Guess in which country they play ) Greece players have solid contracts while their players are playing in PAO/OLY mostly.

    Spain and Argentina IMO is very adequate in the salaries and sport results. Very stable in both ends I guess

    Italy comes as the most efficient NT this decade. Without superstars (arguably) they managed to be very tough in every tournament till 2006 I guess.

    Leave a comment:


  • Test
    replied
    Interesting idea. Too bad many of contracts are confidential in Europe and we don't know rosters of future NTs. Of course on IBN everything possible

    Leave a comment:


  • Dorian
    started a topic National teams contracts value

    National teams contracts value

    Hi guys, I'm new here and I was wondering if you know how the national teams rank in terms of player's annual contracts. I was curious to see the correlation(if any) between the value and their performance. Would be great if you could help and apologies if there is already such a thread. Thanks!
Working...
X

Debug Information