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    Everything taken from FIBA, so no Ersan Ilyasova on the list.

    Jordan: Soobzokov, Wright - USA, Hadrab, Alnajjar, Hussein - Kuwait, Abbas - Palestine
    Puerto Rico: Peavy, Balkman, Santiago, Lee - USA (Mainland)
    France: Koffi, Traore - Ivory Coast, Bokolo - DR Congo, Pietrus - Guadeloupe
    Lebanon: Freije, Vroman - USA, Mahmoud - Canada
    Greece: Calathes - USA, Vougioukas - England, Schortsanitis - Cameroon
    New Zealand: Tait - Australia, Frank - USA, Vukona - Fiji
    Russia: Kolesnikov, Zhukanenko - Kazakhstan, Khryapa - Ukraine
    Ivory Coast: Soumahoro, Ahmagou - France, Kale - USA
    Serbia: Savanovic, Perovic, Macvan - Croatia
    Croatia: Planinic, Bogdanovic - Bosnia & Herzegovina, Stipcevic - Slovenia
    Canada: Rautins, Sacre - USA
    Slovenia: Rizvic - Bosnia & Herzegovina
    Australia: Baynes - New Zealand
    Tunisia: Kechrid - France
    Germany: Greene - USA
    Last edited by sinobball; 09-20-2010, 05:21 PM.
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    Originally posted by sinobball View Post
    Everything taken from FIBA, so no Ersan Ilyasova on the list.

    Jordan: Soobzokov, Wright - USA, Hadrab, Alnajjar, Hussein - Kuwait, Abbas - Palestine
    Puerto Rico: Peavy, Balkman, Santiago, Lee - USA (Mainland)
    France: Koffi, Traore - Ivory Coast, Bokolo - DR Congo, Pietrus - Guatemala
    Lebanon: Freije, Vroman - USA, Mahmoud - Canada
    Greece: Calathes - USA, Vougioukas - England, Schortsanitis - Cameroon
    New Zealand: Tait - Australia, Frank - USA, Vukona - Fiji
    Russia: Kolesnikov, Zhukanenko - Kazakhstan, Khryapa - Ukraine
    Ivory Coast: Soumahoro, Ahmagou - France, Kale - USA
    Serbia: Savanovic, Perovic, MacVan - Croatia
    Croatia: Planinic, Bogdanovic - Bosnia & Herzegovina, Stipcevic - Slovenia
    Canada: Rautins, Sacre - USA
    Slovenia: Rizvic - Bosnia & Herzegovina
    Australia: Baynes - New Zealand
    Tunisia: Kechrid - France
    Germany: Greene - USA
    savanovic, perovic, macvan are croatian serbs. planinic, bogdanovic are herzegovinian croats. stipcevic is croatian croat, and he is only born in slovenia
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    • #3
      Originally posted by sinobball View Post
      Serbia: Savanovic, Perovic, MacVan - Croatia
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sinobball View Post
        Everything taken from FIBA, so no Ersan Ilyasova on the list.

        France: Koffi, Traore - Ivory Coast, Bokolo - DR Congo, Pietrus - Guatemala
        Guate what............

        it's the other Gua, it's Guadeloupe , but he was still born in France since Guadalupe is not a country and is considered to be part of France, just like Tim Duncan was born in The United States even though he's from the Virgin Islands
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        • #5
          Originally posted by sinobball View Post
          Everything taken from FIBA, so no Ersan Ilyasova on the list.

          Jordan: Soobzokov, Wright - USA, Hadrab, Alnajjar, Hussein - Kuwait, Abbas - Palestine
          Puerto Rico: Peavy, Balkman, Santiago, Lee - USA (Mainland)
          France: Koffi, Traore - Ivory Coast, Bokolo - DR Congo, Pietrus - Guatemala
          Lebanon: Freije, Vroman - USA, Mahmoud - Canada
          Greece: Calathes - USA, Vougioukas - England, Schortsanitis - Cameroon
          New Zealand: Tait - Australia, Frank - USA, Vukona - Fiji
          Russia: Kolesnikov, Zhukanenko - Kazakhstan, Khryapa - Ukraine
          Ivory Coast: Soumahoro, Ahmagou - France, Kale - USA
          Serbia: Savanovic, Perovic, MacVan - Croatia
          Croatia: Planinic, Bogdanovic - Bosnia & Herzegovina, Stipcevic - Slovenia
          Canada: Rautins, Sacre - USA
          Slovenia: Rizvic - Bosnia & Herzegovina
          Australia: Baynes - New Zealand
          Tunisia: Kechrid - France
          Germany: Greene - USA

          Balkman and Peavy both have grandparents that were born in PR... Santiago and Lee's parents were born in the island.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sinobball View Post
            Everything taken from FIBA, so no Ersan Ilyasova on the list.

            Jordan: Soobzokov, Wright - USA, Hadrab, Alnajjar, Hussein - Kuwait, Abbas - Palestine
            Puerto Rico: Peavy, Balkman, Santiago, Lee - USA (Mainland)
            France: Koffi, Traore - Ivory Coast, Bokolo - DR Congo, Pietrus - Guatemala
            Lebanon: Freije, Vroman - USA, Mahmoud - Canada
            Greece: Calathes - USA, Vougioukas - England, Schortsanitis - Cameroon
            New Zealand: Tait - Australia, Frank - USA, Vukona - Fiji
            Russia: Kolesnikov, Zhukanenko - Kazakhstan, Khryapa - Ukraine
            Ivory Coast: Soumahoro, Ahmagou - France, Kale - USA
            Serbia: Savanovic, Perovic, MacVan - Croatia
            Croatia: Planinic, Bogdanovic - Bosnia & Herzegovina, Stipcevic - Slovenia
            Canada: Rautins, Sacre - USA
            Slovenia: Rizvic - Bosnia & Herzegovina
            Australia: Baynes - New Zealand
            Tunisia: Kechrid - France
            Germany: Greene - USA
            Illyasova was born in Uzbekistan, but his passport says Turkey. I think his true age is also a question mark.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Victorious View Post
              Illyasova was born in Uzbekistan, but his passport says Turkey. I think his true age is also a question mark.

              Ilyasova's surname sounds more of a Slavic origin.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by obama2008 View Post
                Ilyasova's surname sounds more of a Slavic origin.
                Supposedly it's originally Ilyasov, which sounds pretty Turkic.
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                • #9
                  LEBANON-Vroman is a full blooded American he is a naturalized Lebanese
                  -Freijie is also American w/ Lebanese blood they said
                  JORDAN-Wright is also a full blooded American also naturalized Jordanian
                  -Soobzokov i think is born in the US But his last name sounds like an Slavic.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rocketstar47 View Post
                    -Freijie is also American w/ Lebanese blood they said
                    It's not a matter of opinion, it's actually a fact. Freije family moved to America in the beginning of the 20th century.

                    Originally posted by rocketstar47 View Post
                    -Soobzokov i think is born in the US But his last name sounds like an Slavic.
                    His father was originally from Kavkaz and was given Jordanian citizenship when he moved there.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sinobball View Post
                      Everything taken from FIBA, so no Ersan Ilyasova on the list.

                      Puerto Rico: Peavy, Balkman
                      Greece: Schortsanitis - Cameroon
                      Russia:Zhukanenko - Kazakhstan, Khryapa - Ukraine, HOLDEN-USA.
                      Germany: Greene - USA
                      I dont like this... i think is very bad for the basketball... WC is nations duel.... Brazil NT have only 100% brazilian players.... not just because some player have grandmother bla bla bla etc etc....

                      If the player have children, a life, in his second country... OK...

                      but if he never stepped on country (like Balkman, i think Peavy too... they not talk spanish... only english, second language in Puerto Rico) he not deserve play for that national team....

                      is taking the chance of a player born and raised in the country... for me its not cool.

                      just my opinion.

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                      • #12
                        In the case of PR I think there's a national law which gives automatic citizenship in those cases you mentioned, so it's not something arranged or so.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Victorious View Post
                          Illyasova was born in Uzbekistan, but his passport says Turkey. I think his true age is also a question mark.
                          Ilyasova is BORN in Turkey! His parents are from another country thats right, but the guy himself is born in the city where I'm from: Eskisehir. Don't come here and tell lies dutchie boy

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TurkishSuperiorBasket View Post
                            Ilyasova is BORN in Turkey! His parents are from another country thats right, but the guy himself is born in the city where I'm from: Eskisehir. Don't come here and tell lies dutchie boy
                            You know about the whole story I suppose, it's not that simple...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
                              You know about the whole story I suppose, it's not that simple...
                              Arsen Ilyasov was born in Soviet Republic of Uzbekistan in 1984.

                              Enter 19 year old Ersan Ilyasova.

                              I put nineteen in italics because Ersan Ilyasova might actually be Arsen Ilyasov. Arsen was an 18 year old Uzbek who moved to Turkey with his father in 2002 never to be heard from again. Ersan is now a professional basketball player who registered as a Turkish citizen in 2002 at the age of “15.”

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