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  • #46
    Voted for Croatia.
    Serbia plays well, but I don't see them wining easily. I even think they can relax too much, so for that reason, my guess goes to Croatia
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    • #47
      Originally posted by re5pectas View Post
      Voted for Croatia.
      Serbia plays well, but I don't see them wining easily. I even think they can relax too much, so for that reason, my guess goes to Croatia
      oh, I`am so surprised

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      • #48
        By the way Tomic is the softest post player at this WC he's even softer than Kosta Perovic I am very disappointed in his performances .
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        • #49
          Originally posted by granger View Post
          I disagree with that, if we look individual effect of serbian and croatian players in eurolegue and eurocup, croatian player have much better statistic.
          What players?

          Krstic plays NBA, Tomic didn't play even 10 games in EL.

          Teodosic is official MVP of EL, Ukic came back from NBA as a failure, although he is very good player.

          Velickovic has 3 EL seasons on high level, Tepic is young but has also great experience, the rest of our players has huge potential.

          Beside Tomic and Ukic, Tomas is great player, Popovic is an ok player, Bogdanovic has potential, but the rest are at least to say average players. Planinic is also good, but he is not recovered and in form.

          I don't see this as an easy game, because of outside factors, with has nothing to do with basketball, but still I can't see how Croatia can play on a same level as us, only if we have a terrible night, and they shot 60% for 3pts.
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          • #50
            Croatia's biggest hope is 2 have players like Popovic and Bogdanovic start hitting 3p shots from everywhere. They r not so bonded as a team as Serbia, so they have 2 surpass themselves and what they have done so far 2 win.
            I voted 4 Serbia, but I don't think they will win easily. Croatia has few 2 lose and much 2 gain. They have faced strong opponents in their group, but haven't done well. It's their chance 2 win a big game and they will b highly motivated.
            I wish Croatia wins, but I don't think that will happen.
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            • #51
              Why would you wish for the terrible team to advances to quarter final"s isn't it better for the tournament that stronger team advances or maybe you are nervous about potential match up between Serbia and Greece down the road You should cheer for your favorite club new coach and legend of the club and two of their players lead by Milos Teodosic
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              • #52
                Originally posted by SparrowHawk View Post
                What players?

                Krstic plays NBA, Tomic didn't play even 10 games in EL.

                Teodosic is official MVP of EL, Ukic came back from NBA as a failure, although he is very good player.

                Velickovic has 3 EL seasons on high level, Tepic is young but has also great experience, the rest of our players has huge potential.

                Beside Tomic and Ukic, Tomas is great player, Popovic is an ok player, Bogdanovic has potential, but the rest are at least to say average players. Planinic is also good, but he is not recovered and in form.

                I don't see this as an easy game, because of outside factors, with has nothing to do with basketball, but still I can't see how Croatia can play on a same level as us, only if we have a terrible night, and they shot 60% for 3pts.
                Croatia
                eurolegue
                Ukić, Roko fenerbahce PPG: 20 RPG: 6 APG: 4
                Tomas, Marko PPG: 16.4 RPG: 3.1 APG: 1.9 SPG: 1.1
                Bogdanović, BojanPPG: 8.1 RPG: 2.9 APG: 0.5 SPG: 0.7
                Tomić, AntePPG: 11 RPG: 3.6 APG: 0.9 SPG: 0.2
                Eurocup
                Popović, Marko unix PPG: 18.3 RPG: 2.1 APG: 4.8 SPG: 0.5
                Kus, Davor rbenetonPPG: 10.2 RPG: 2.3 APG: 3.1 SPG: 1.2
                Lončar, KreÅ¡imirPPG: 13 RPG: 4.8 APG: 1.2 SPG: 0.9
                Banic MarkoPPG: 12.8 RPG: 3.7 APG: 0.3 SPG: 0.5

                Serbia
                Eurolegue
                MiloÅ¡ TeodosićPPG: 13.4 RPG: 2.5 APG: 4.9 SPG: 1.8
                Milenko TepićPPG: 3.5 RPG: 2.1 APG: 1 SPG: 0.4
                Novica VeličkovićPPG: 7.9 RPG: 4.1 APG: 1.8 SPG: 0.8
                Eurocup
                Stefan MarkovićPPG: 8.3 RPG: 4.3 APG: 5.1 SPG: 2.2
                Nemanja BjelicaPPG: 8.5 RPG: 5.8 APG: 2 SPG: 1
                Kosta PerovićPPG: 10.8 RPG: 6.3 APG: 1.4 SPG: 1.2
                NBA
                Nenad Krstić PPG:10,4 RPG: 5,5

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                • #53
                  Dusko Savanovic had the best season after Teodosic in our team Krstic 10 points in the NBA are worth more than Tomic 11 in the Spanish league also he played more than 80 games in the NBA that's" lot of experience which will be obvious in the head to head duel between the two players.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by granger View Post
                    Croatia
                    eurolegue
                    Ukić, Roko fenerbahce PPG: 20 RPG: 6 APG: 4
                    Tomas, Marko PPG: 16.4 RPG: 3.1 APG: 1.9 SPG: 1.1
                    Bogdanović, BojanPPG: 8.1 RPG: 2.9 APG: 0.5 SPG: 0.7
                    Tomić, AntePPG: 11 RPG: 3.6 APG: 0.9 SPG: 0.2
                    Eurocup
                    Popović, Marko unix PPG: 18.3 RPG: 2.1 APG: 4.8 SPG: 0.5
                    Kus, Davor rbenetonPPG: 10.2 RPG: 2.3 APG: 3.1 SPG: 1.2
                    Lončar, KreÅ¡imirPPG: 13 RPG: 4.8 APG: 1.2 SPG: 0.9
                    Banic MarkoPPG: 12.8 RPG: 3.7 APG: 0.3 SPG: 0.5

                    Serbia
                    Eurolegue
                    MiloÅ¡ TeodosićPPG: 13.4 RPG: 2.5 APG: 4.9 SPG: 1.8
                    Milenko TepićPPG: 3.5 RPG: 2.1 APG: 1 SPG: 0.4
                    Novica VeličkovićPPG: 7.9 RPG: 4.1 APG: 1.8 SPG: 0.8
                    Eurocup
                    Stefan MarkovićPPG: 8.3 RPG: 4.3 APG: 5.1 SPG: 2.2
                    Nemanja BjelicaPPG: 8.5 RPG: 5.8 APG: 2 SPG: 1
                    Kosta PerovićPPG: 10.8 RPG: 6.3 APG: 1.4 SPG: 1.2
                    NBA
                    Nenad Krstić PPG:10,4 RPG: 5,5
                    Ukic played only one game in EL last season and you take statistic from that game, and compared to Teodosic.

                    As I said Bogdanovic is a potential, but still Bjelica/Keselj are better.

                    Tomas, beside Gordon are only playing for Cibona, he got 35min. per game, in Real for example he played less than Tepic in PAO.

                    Tomic, less than 10 games in EL, potential, but I don't think that he can handle Krstic.

                    Eurocup I will not even take as a relevant.

                    We have young players, born winners, both in junior NT competitions, both in senior in clubs, Croats are average-good Eurocup players, with Ukic and Tomas only who can make a difference.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by granger View Post
                      Croatia
                      eurolegue
                      Ukić, Roko fenerbahce PPG: 20 RPG: 6 APG: 4
                      Tomas, Marko PPG: 16.4 RPG: 3.1 APG: 1.9 SPG: 1.1
                      Bogdanović, BojanPPG: 8.1 RPG: 2.9 APG: 0.5 SPG: 0.7
                      Tomić, AntePPG: 11 RPG: 3.6 APG: 0.9 SPG: 0.2
                      Eurocup
                      Popović, Marko unix PPG: 18.3 RPG: 2.1 APG: 4.8 SPG: 0.5
                      Kus, Davor rbenetonPPG: 10.2 RPG: 2.3 APG: 3.1 SPG: 1.2
                      Lončar, KreÅ¡imirPPG: 13 RPG: 4.8 APG: 1.2 SPG: 0.9
                      Banic MarkoPPG: 12.8 RPG: 3.7 APG: 0.3 SPG: 0.5

                      Serbia
                      Eurolegue
                      MiloÅ¡ TeodosićPPG: 13.4 RPG: 2.5 APG: 4.9 SPG: 1.8
                      Milenko TepićPPG: 3.5 RPG: 2.1 APG: 1 SPG: 0.4
                      Novica VeličkovićPPG: 7.9 RPG: 4.1 APG: 1.8 SPG: 0.8
                      Eurocup
                      Stefan MarkovićPPG: 8.3 RPG: 4.3 APG: 5.1 SPG: 2.2
                      Nemanja BjelicaPPG: 8.5 RPG: 5.8 APG: 2 SPG: 1
                      Kosta PerovićPPG: 10.8 RPG: 6.3 APG: 1.4 SPG: 1.2
                      NBA
                      Nenad Krstić PPG:10,4 RPG: 5,5
                      i say f...the stats

                      croatia is only stronger at sg idividually if tomas plays at sg, and individually our backcourt can score more. only true scorer in serbia is teodosic.

                      on pg ukic sure has stats, but stats are not evrything. who ever uderstands basketball knows teodosic is better pg. ukic has great abilitys same as planinic, but that's it. popovic can lead team great, but can also kill her. i would give all of them for teo. teo is true playmaker and leader

                      sg is our idividuall advantage with tomas and kus or ukic as backup. popovic as backup is only shooter. can sometimes score a lot, but when he doesn't he is usles. paunic, tepic, rasic are not bad, but not tomas level

                      at sf it's battle of equally underperforming talents if tomas is not on sf. bogdanovic can score 6-7 3 pointer and play very solid d, but unfortunally he is to passive, and dosen't use his other abilitys as he can do much more. keselj and bjelica from time to time show how much great they can be, especially multitalented bijelica.

                      pf-we don't have one. we play with 2 centers at same time, so serbians have big advatage there besides rebounding (at least individually itshould be like that

                      c-tomic is taleted but he seems impresed and missing things what he usually makes + for some reason we don't run pick trough him. only play for him is isolation, or high post vs. zone. + he is playing like sisy. others are decent, nothing else. we defenetly need zoric athleticisam and energy here. so one krstic is better than whole our frontcourt same as one gasol was better then whole serbian frontcour. o yeah, reast of guys are not no one

                      idividually 3,5-1,5 for serbia

                      tactics 9-1 for serbia. serbia knows always what wannts and what can do so that's 9. we can shoot some times like we shoot in sea, but that's it=1

                      in normall situation + 30 for team like serbia vs. team like ours
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SparrowHawk View Post

                        As I said Bogdanovic is a potential, but still Bjelica/Keselj are better.

                        .
                        I would like to see the pattern you used to calculate that.

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                        • #57
                          its strange by saying that
                          but according to what Serbian members here say
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by cg View Post
                            its strange by saying that
                            but according to what serbian members here say
                            go croatia
                            home

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                            • #59
                              CG the man in your avatar says you are not the real fan of PAO
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by pohani komarac View Post
                                i say f...the stats

                                croatia is only stronger at sg idividually if tomas plays at sg, and individually our backcourt can score more. only true scorer in serbia is teodosic.

                                on pg ukic sure has stats, but stats are not evrything. who ever uderstands basketball knows teodosic is better pg. ukic has great abilitys same as planinic, but that's it. popovic can lead team great, but can also kill her. i would give all of them for teo. teo is true playmaker and leader

                                sg is our idividuall advantage with tomas and kus or ukic as backup. popovic as backup is only shooter. can sometimes score a lot, but when he doesn't he is usles. paunic, tepic, rasic are not bad, but not tomas level

                                at sf it's battle of equally underperforming talents if tomas is not on sf. bogdanovic can score 6-7 3 pointer and play very solid d, but unfortunally he is to passive, and dosen't use his other abilitys as he can do much more. keselj and bjelica from time to time show how much great they can be, especially multitalented bijelica.

                                pf-we don't have one. we play with 2 centers at same time, so serbians have big advatage there besides rebounding (at least individually itshould be like that

                                c-tomic is taleted but he seems impresed and missing things what he usually makes + for some reason we don't run pick trough him. only play for him is isolation, or high post vs. zone. + he is playing like sisy. others are decent, nothing else. we defenetly need zoric athleticisam and energy here. so one krstic is better than whole our frontcourt same as one gasol was better then whole serbian frontcour. o yeah, reast of guys are not no one

                                idividually 3,5-1,5 for serbia

                                tactics 9-1 for serbia. serbia knows always what wannts and what can do so that's 9. we can shoot some times like we shoot in sea, but that's it=1

                                in normall situation + 30 for team like serbia vs. team like ours
                                Great post.

                                I agree that Tomas is the one who could make difference on his position, although our shooting guards are pretty good in defense, they just suck in offense. I will never forget the way Tomas played against Partizan in NLB final, I mean that man has a heart, Partizan was at least 2 class better team than Cibona last season(the season before that they were pretty even, maybe Partizan just a little better, but last Cibona was way weaker), and still Cibona put a huge fight especially Tomas.

                                Originally posted by Francek View Post
                                I would like to see the pattern you used to calculate that.
                                Well, I don't now what will they become in a future as a players, but now, Bogdanovic only shoot better than Bjelica, but Bjelica is better rebounder, a great all round player who can take a lot of rolls, better defender and etc.
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