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    Europe vs. Asia 10-0

    Greece - China 89-81
    France - Lebanon 86-59
    Croatia - Iran 75-54
    Serbia - Jordan 112-69
    Russia - China 89-80
    Spain - Lebanon 91-57
    Lithuania - Lebanon 84-66
    Slovenia - Iran 65-60
    Turkey - China 87-40
    Germany - Jordan 91-73
    Last edited by bsgermany; 09-03-2010, 03:20 AM.

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    Greece on day 1 not really in the tournament yet against China, who kept the game open 'til the final minutes.

    France never had any problems vs. Lebanon, who weren't much of a challenge.

    Same goes for the Croatian win over Iran - not much of a problem for the european side.

    Serbia vs. Jordan -not much more than an average shooting practise for Serbia after the double ot loss against Germany.

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    • #3
      The difference between the two FIBA Zones is too big. Only see China with Yao and Yi doing something against European teams. The other NT's just can't compete, sometimes they have some talent (usually Lebanon), but they play under-level leagues during the season...
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      • #4
        omg i was thinking of opening this thread until i signed in and saw someone creating it before me

        anw vast difference between both zones.

        Europe play a much better style more professional. When they have an open shot they just can't miss it. They have enough height, speed, athletic and strong skills. They don't play a personal game, they play as team work long and accurate passes are their strong points and what makes them better is that they are dominant under the rim. They just can't miss any 2 point shot. They have gd spins, play modern basketball(with their back to the paint), they have strong assister (even there centers can see the court very gd)

        Asia has talents, fight in the courts, have some potentials but lack height, speed, athleticism(compared to europe: they run the court very well)

        It's just obvious: the way europians run, penetrate and shoot is totally different than ours and we saw it during france vs lebanon, iran vs croatia, jordan vs serbia ...

        i personally believe that (the us americans should have maps haha ok jk) if we merge both asian and europian style we will have one hell of a strong team.

        (my joke was related to stupid miss teen south carolina you can check it on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww)
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        • #5
          Like Luiz pointed out it's all in the system. Europe has such an organization that they have many levels of leagues, ranging from national to continental, and all quite competitive. Then, on the other end of the spectrum we have Jordan which had no league last year due to politics, and save for Zaid Abbas (by far their best player right now) who played in China, everybody played no organized basketball for 8 months.

          I disagree with the talent assessment though; I think Asia has its own share of talents. I mean we have Yi, Haddadi, Freije, etc. who all proved to be world-class talents. The players just need more experience, more steady outputs and better coaching.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by sinobball View Post
            Like Luiz pointed out it's all in the system. Europe has such an organization that they have many levels of leagues, ranging from national to continental, and all quite competitive. Then, on the other end of the spectrum we have Jordan which had no league last year due to politics, and save for Zaid Abbas (by far their best player right now) who played in China, everybody played no organized basketball for 8 months.

            I disagree with the talent assessment though; I think Asia has its own share of talents. I mean we have Yi, Haddadi, Freije, etc. who all proved to be world-class talents. The players just need more experience, more steady outputs and better coaching.

            Freije???? yesterday he played in CBA as import from exNBA yet, but tomorrow he plays suddenly for Lebannon a asian land.  i personaly do not think he is a good example for that

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            • #7
              Matt freiji is lebanese, he is bekaa valley to be exact

              Matthew (Matt) Wayne Freije (born October 2, 1981) is a dual citizen Lebanese-American, and Ashkenazi Jewish, professional basketball player who currently plays for the Mets de Guaynabo in Puerto Rico. Freije attended Shawnee Mission West High School in Overland Park, Kansas before attending Vanderbilt University where he was an All-SEC performer. He was selected 53rd overall in the 2004 NBA Draft by the Miami Heat, was then released and later played for the New Orleans Hornets. He played 19 games for the Atlanta Hawks during the 2006-07 season but was waived in December 2006 to clear a roster spot for Slava Medvedenko.[1]

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              • #8
                I think an Americas vs Europe topic would have made more sense.

                There's a vast gulf between the two continents right now.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dtown View Post
                  I think an Americas vs Europe topic would have made more sense.

                  There's a vast gulf between the two continents right now.
                  When you go to the asian section of this forum and backread a lot, you will find plenty of posts from Lebanese, Philippinos etc. who keep pointing out who close Asian basketball already is to Europe. Particularly some Lebanese believe their NT to be practically equal already just because they beat France once before. That inspired me to open this thread here.

                  Back to the topic. I do believe Asian basketball is developing quite well in some countries and at least they seem to be overtaking Africa in world basketball.
                  Nevertheless I do believe there is more than a solid chance they will remain winless against european teams in this tournament. So far, the gap between these two continents has proven to be still quite solid.
                  Last edited by bsgermany; 08-31-2010, 05:33 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bsgermany View Post
                    So far, the gap between these two countries has proven to be still quite solid.
                    I'm quite sure you meant continents..
                    Europe is sending it's best to NBA, Asia should send it's best to Europe instead of sending them to sit on NBA benches (Wang ZhiZhi, that other chinese guy which was in Lakers, Haddadi)..
                    that is the only way they will improve..
                    ofcourse there are rare examples like Ming and Jianlian...
                    but I personally believe a year or two in europe would made them much better players then they are/were..
                    there are numerous cases of european talents going too early to NBA and destroying their careers or putting them on different tracks..
                    thing is, in most european leagues you learn basics, have a lot of trainings etc. and it's a different type of basketball then in US..
                    focused more on tactics and not only physical abilities..
                    and tactics is something all asian teams miss.. alongside other stuff..
                    in NBA you don't learn it like that.. once the season starts that's basicly it with all the travellings, games etc.
                    and I'm quite sure they would be space in european clubs for asian players.. maybe not in the top ones right from the begininng but slowly it could come to that as well..
                    "Heja, heja Cibosi, hrabri kao vukovi,

                    heja, heja cibosi, vodite nas k pobjedi. "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Picek View Post
                      Europe is sending it's best to NBA, Asia should send it's best to Europe instead of sending them to sit on NBA benches (Wang ZhiZhi, that other chinese guy which was in Lakers, Haddadi)..
                      that is the only way they will improve..
                      Sure Europe would be the better address, but financial aspects may be in the way there. Let's forget about the NBA for a moment, 'cause just a very limited number of asian players could currently actually make it there. Since asian players would be counted as regular imports, they would face the competition of US players, who may in many cases simply be cheaper than the star players for example in the philippine PBA, where they pay quite well.
                      I have no idea how much you get payed in the Middle East, but countries like Philippines, Korea, Japan and probably China sure pay a lot to its top players.
                      That may cause most clubs with ordinary budgets to rather stay within Europe respectively turn to the american market instead of looking for expensive asian stars, while the top clubs who could afford them simply find better players here in Europe or America.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bsgermany View Post
                        Sure Europe would be the better address, but financial aspects may be in the way there. Let's forget about the NBA for a moment, 'cause just a very limited number of asian players could currently actually make it there. Since asian players would be counted as regular imports, they would face the competition of US players, who may in many cases simply be cheaper than the star players for example in the philippine PBA, where they pay quite well.
                        I have no idea how much you get payed in the Middle East, but countries like Philippines, Korea, Japan and probably China sure pay a lot to its top players.
                        That may cause most clubs with ordinary budgets to rather stay within Europe respectively turn to the american market instead of looking for expensive asian stars, while the top clubs who could afford them simply find better players here in Europe or America.
                        that surely is the case..
                        but you also have a lot of european players going to NBA to play for pocketmoney at first..
                        it's just the matter of priorities in their careers..
                        same for asian players..
                        stay in asia and be satisfied with the current level of play and earn "big money" or try to build up on yourself.
                        'cause asian federations have been importing foreign coaches for decades now..
                        and they are still far from european competition..
                        so obviously that isn't the only thing they should do..

                        Argentina's boom would never happen if it wasn't for Europe.. basicly their entire team grew up in Europe and build on those grounds later throughout their careers..
                        similar story to current Brasil (Leandrinho being the exception)..
                        "Heja, heja Cibosi, hrabri kao vukovi,

                        heja, heja cibosi, vodite nas k pobjedi. "

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bsgermany View Post
                          Europe vs. Asia 4-0

                          Greece - China 89-81
                          France - Lebanon 86-59
                          Croatia - Iran 75-54
                          Serbia - Jordan 112-69
                          well Lebanon can easly beat Germany and many other european countries. We are progressing so fast. if you check the archive 10 years ago ther was no professional basketball teams in lebanon. in 2006 our NT escaped with a bus from the bombing and yet we beated France (Africa i can say)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dtown View Post
                            I think an Americas vs Europe topic would have made more sense.

                            There's a vast gulf between the two continents right now.
                            100% right
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                            • #15
                              In a few years, I really think Asia is going to surprise a lot of teams around the world. Right now, no, Asia is not very competitive. But China is playing without their best player (Yao) and Iran is playing without their two best players (Afagh and Nikkhah...maybe Haddadi is their best). In a few years, I think that China and Iran are going to continue to be very good and will start to challange Europe more. Traditionally, Lebanon has been good, and I think they can only get better.

                              While the Philippines don't exactly have a powerful national team right now, they have one of the most economically viable leagues in the world. Once they get a good national team together, they could rise to the level of Lebanon, although they won't be competing with Europe any time soon.
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