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  • fastbreak
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    Originally posted by Hobbit73 View Post
    Alex Maric... Well, it's not immigration, but emigration, however it's still does a trick. After all, prior to playing for Partizan, he was a 15th choice for a Oz NT & probably wouldn't be even considered to be a water boy, if Bogut didn't get injured...
    Aleks Maric is a Serb, both his parents are Serbian. He wanted to play for Serbia but Australia threatened with a suspension. Totally different case.

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  • Hobbit73
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    Originally posted by Fearless View Post
    And if Serbia had strong immigration from countries that produce good athletes you'd take advantage of the system too, I'm sure.
    Alex Maric... Well, it's not immigration, but emigration, however it's still does a trick. After all, prior to playing for Partizan, he was a 15th choice for a Oz NT & probably wouldn't be even considered to be a water boy, if Bogut didn't get injured...

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  • Fearless
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    Originally posted by fastbreak View Post
    By law, only by law. Taking advantage of the system.

    ch is the closest they got to ć. The guy tried to convince me that Pešić is German while two of the letters in his surname are nonexistent in the German language.
    as long as "the system" is right, there's nothing wrong in taking "advantage" of it, furthermore I assure you that players like Harris, Green and McNaughton fell 100% german (btw they also have "pure" German mothers, isn't that enough for you?)

    And if Serbia had strong immigration from countries that produce good athletes you'd take advantage of the system too, I'm sure.

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  • fastbreak
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    Originally posted by Fearless View Post
    lol, what's the point of this post, it doesn't contradict mine, on the contrary it says "and are native Germans by law", which ends it, pretty much.

    On the "pesic" discussion, you're obviously confusing spelling with pronunciation. I was just saying that the sound of "ch" in German is completely different from the sound of "ć" in Serbian, so you translated wrong.
    By law, only by law. Taking advantage of the system.

    ch is the closest they got to ć. The guy tried to convince me that Pešić is German while two of the letters in his surname are nonexistent in the German language.

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  • Fearless
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    Originally posted by fastbreak View Post
    lol of course you dont, Friedrich is German.


    Greg Popovich? Rudy Tomjanovich? This is the closest thing they got to ć.

    In Germany, professional basketball is known for developing players whose parents or grandparents are immigrants. The national team routinely uses many players who have family roots in Africa, Eastern Europe, United States or others, but have grown up in Germany, speak fluent German and are native Germans by law. The last point is especially important, as the new FIBA rules prevent the use of more than one "naturalized" citizen per country. Famous examples of these allochtonous players are:

    * African-German: Stephan Arigbabu, Misan Nikagbatse, Ademola Okulaja, Marvin Willoughby
    * American-German: Shawn Bradley, Robert Garrett, Stefano Garris, Demond Greene, Chris Kaman, Elias Harris
    * Canadian-German: Michael Jackel
    * Croatian-German: Stipo Papić, Dražan Tomić
    * Polish-German: Konrad Wysocki
    * Serbian-German: Marko Pešić
    * Turkish-German: Teoman Öztürk, Mithat Demirel
    lol, what's the point of this post, it doesn't contradict mine, on the contrary it says "and are native Germans by law", which ends it, pretty much.

    On the "pesic" discussion, you're obviously confusing spelling with pronunciation. I was just saying that the sound of "ch" in German is completely different from the sound of "ć" in Serbian, so you translated wrong.

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  • robbe
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    Originally posted by JGX View Post
    On the same topic, how is "Schaffartzik" pronounced? Can the FIBA announcer possibly be pronouncing it correctly?
    No, no, and not in twenty years.

    high-ko sha-far-tsik

    It's really not difficult but the FIBA announcer has been incredibly creative. He went from "shpotnick" over "schwarzenegger" (seriously) to "shwartznick", which he kept for the remainder of the game.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    Fatigue, mentally and physically, is a very good and perfectly valid excuse for this German team, because they simply lack quality individual talent on this level. They needed huge performances from Jagla and Greene and fighting spirit all throughout to beat a lackadaisical Serbia team minus Teodosic and Kristic on that day. Even Jordan and Angola won't be easy. Germany needs to play at 100% to be able to win games.

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  • fastbreak
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    Originally posted by Fearless View Post
    you don't pronounce friedrich "fridrić"


    lol of course you dont, Friedrich is German.


    Greg Popovich? Rudy Tomjanovich? This is the closest thing they got to ć.

    In Germany, professional basketball is known for developing players whose parents or grandparents are immigrants. The national team routinely uses many players who have family roots in Africa, Eastern Europe, United States or others, but have grown up in Germany, speak fluent German and are native Germans by law. The last point is especially important, as the new FIBA rules prevent the use of more than one "naturalized" citizen per country. Famous examples of these allochtonous players are:

    * African-German: Stephan Arigbabu, Misan Nikagbatse, Ademola Okulaja, Marvin Willoughby
    * American-German: Shawn Bradley, Robert Garrett, Stefano Garris, Demond Greene, Chris Kaman, Elias Harris
    * Canadian-German: Michael Jackel
    * Croatian-German: Stipo Papić, Dražan Tomić
    * Polish-German: Konrad Wysocki
    * Serbian-German: Marko Pešić
    * Turkish-German: Teoman Öztürk, Mithat Demirel

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  • Fearless
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    Originally posted by fastbreak View Post
    OK you win. Svetislav and Marko Pešić are German.


    btw š is sch and ć is ch
    lol you're embarassing yourself.. first of all:

    ć is not the german "ch", you don't pronounce friedrich "fridrić"

    check before you write..


    second, there are no naturalized players in the German NT, Harris, Greene and McNaughton are Germans like, let's say, Drazen Petrovic was Croatian (Serbian parents, ancestors but born and always played in Croatia), I see that the skin colour is a major problem for you, but i can't really help you cure your racism..

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  • Saskibaloia
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    Many InterBasket Users are not too familiar with the Boomers compared to the Germans but this time around everyone was able to witness the strength, abilities and skills of these Aussies.

    Well Done to Australia! The Lads did a fine job to once again show that the Boomers are on the rise and can compete internationally in the 2nd mos popular sport in the world.

    It's great that the Aussie Lads get a day off before they take on Eurpean heavyweight Serbia in their next enconter.

    As the poll shows many voted for the Germans to win but the Aussies were able to demonstrate that they are definitely NOT here to make up for the numbers but rather to push themselves as far into the tournament as possible. Gone are the days when the Boomers would loose and say that they are in the "rebuilding" stage rather than Aussies have shown that they can play with the big boys such as Argentina and can take down easily former European Power House: Germany.

    However, the real test will be against Serbia and they have to ensure that they can take out the African Champions and not to take them easily. In addition, after the Group Stage, the knockout stage is where the "real" business of this tournament and this is the time when basketball fans around the world and especially in Australia will see whether the Boomers have turned from Boyz II Men.

    GO BOOMERS! C'MON LADS! YOU CAN DO IT!

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  • JGX
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    Originally posted by fastbreak View Post
    You have a bigger problem pronouncing Pesic.
    On the same topic, how is "Schaffartzik" pronounced? Can the FIBA announcer possibly be pronouncing it correctly?

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  • redred
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    I almost feel like germany didn't scout Australia at all- the Boomers ran a fastbreak clinic in this game which is the very thing to avoid when playing them. The Germans lack of athleticism was badly badly exposed.

    The young Aussie team is starting to find some identity after a shaky start. Jordan had the right idea- make them grind it out in the half court and their offence will collapse. Letting them play up tempo is asking for trouble. The scrambling defence was good as well- props to Coach Brown.

    After hearing so much about this young German team, I don't know what to say

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  • fastbreak
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    Originally posted by Blackway View Post
    LMAO Serbians save your tears and buckle up to make it out of your group
    Sabas was the one who cried

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  • Blackway
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    LMAO Serbians save your tears and buckle up to make it out of your group

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  • Ifthenelseend
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    I am starting to think (after this bad display) that Germany just had luck the night before this game, caught us in the moment when we lacked focus in both O and D, plus they wanted to take back their revenge at us for missing the chance to win against Argentina. Yesterday they hit everything, but today against Australia it was painful to watch

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  • Partizan&Beer
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    Where's that knockers guy? The believing German fan...

    Funny, funny, funny players. Did I say funny? Sorry, I meant ridiculous. Who are these people? Where do they play? What do they play? No luck = a lot of embarrassment.

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