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  • #31
    Those people watch the NBA and forget/don't know how great it was before they changed the rules into a girly game and call Lebron and Kobe the greatest players of all time, you can't take them seriously

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bobo81 View Post
      See, this is the problem I have with many of our Euro/international friends. They scrutinize and disect ev-er-y little thing, from how USA shakes your hands before the game to "how dare they not know Athens is the capital of Greece!! Off with their heads!!!!!". I mean, are you guys serious or joking? How do you know that Russel was serious here btw? So what if he didn't know and is telling the truth? You guys have to understand that your international competitions are larger than we consider them to be. USA soccer (football for you) had boners when they defeated Spain in the Confederations Cup last year. Spain took it as a joke and didn't care. What do you expect from a powerhouse team in their own sport?
      That's all wrong.
      If they see us as basketball aliens then just don't play in WC and in any other Fiba's tournaments.
      If you don't care about Fiba's competitions stop participate to them.
      And since you are the powerhouse of basketball (which i believe / admit you are) why after all these failures of Indianapolis - Japan etc etc you keep sending weaker rosters ?

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      • #33
        Any way.
        Let's hope that from this WC since there is a live broadcasting in states for a first time, that Americans will take more seriously the competition.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Panathinaikos Athens View Post
          That's all wrong.
          If they see us as basketball aliens then just don't play in WC and in any other Fiba's tournaments.
          If you don't care about Fiba's competitions stop participate to them.
          And since you are the powerhouse of basketball (which i believe / admit you are) why after all these failures of Indianapolis - Japan etc etc you keep sending weaker rosters ?
          America not even participating would be seen as way worse.
          I think soon though, the USA will be sending better rosters to the WC, as long as the interest in it keeps growing like it currently is.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Panathinaikos Athens View Post
            That's all wrong.
            If they see us as basketball aliens then just don't play in WC and in any other Fiba's tournaments.
            If you don't care about Fiba's competitions stop participate to them.
            And since you are the powerhouse of basketball (which i believe / admit you are) why after all these failures of Indianapolis - Japan etc etc you keep sending weaker rosters ?
            This time we could not help sending a weaker roster. What are we suppose to do, place a gun to their heads and force them to play? And also remember please, we have confidence in our guys and especially look forward to building new faces for our future team. I have no problem with that. I'll tell you what, friend, you better pray this USA team fails for your own sake. If they win, there will be no more excuses on how USA "disrespects their opponents" by sending "weaker" teams. While I believe this team can win it all, I have a feeling they probably won't.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Alvertis4 View Post
              Those people watch the NBA and forget/don't know how great it was before they changed the rules into a girly game and call Lebron and Kobe the greatest players of all time, you can't take them seriously
              I disagree.
              If you have notice the FIBA AT LAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is changing some rules with new ones that are the same in the NBA.

              The girly game is here in Euro league. You block the ball and the lousy referees give most of times a foul.
              They give foul in every single touch.
              Now we will have more physical game. AT LAST !!!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bobo81 View Post
                This time we could not help sending a weaker roster. What are we suppose to do, place a gun to their heads and force them to play? And also remember please, we have confidence in our guys and especially look forward to building new faces for our future team. I have no problem with that. I'll tell you what, friend, you better pray this USA team fails for your own sake. If they win, there will be no more excuses on how USA "disrespects their opponents" by sending "weaker" teams. While I believe this team can win it all, I have a feeling they probably won't.
                It's another thing creating a team for the future.
                Do you believe that now you are creating a NT for the future with all those young guys?
                You know very well that if they will get a good contract in their NBA teams, then you will face the same problem. They will not want/ or be let, to play again in US NT.

                And if you want to create a team you don't change the roster every year.
                Any way.

                You see basketball from a totally different point of view than us.

                And no one said that this team of USA can't win the Championship. It is a very good team.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Panathinaikos Athens View Post
                  I disagree.
                  If you have notice the FIBA AT LAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is changing some rules with new ones that are the same in the NBA.

                  The girly game is here in Euro league. You block the ball and the lousy referees give most of times a foul.
                  They give foul in every single touch.
                  Now we will have more physical game. AT LAST !!!

                  Do you even know what the new rules suggest? It's pure basketball suicide, except the lengthening of the 3pt line.


                  As for the first part, here's a nice lesson.
                  Current NBA rules suck101
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                  People actually prefer the NCAA and the Euroleague to the NBA because it's pure basketball. Dunking and driving on clear lanes is not basketball. Specially with defense just staring at the player who drives. I'd rather watch the Harlem Globetrotters

                  You seriously want this change in Europe as well? We don't have athletic players so it won't be as "fun"

                  I'd rather stick with basketball. Euroleague can find other ways to market the sport, without changing the rules. Only the arrows-jump ball thing should have changed imo. The rest of the changes are crap and will make fans lose interest in the long run

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by schweinstylin View Post
                    This is the first year the WC has been broadcast in the USA. ESPN just got the rights to show FIBA here, they're starting to push it here.
                    This is not correct. I remember watching all of their games in 2006.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Panathinaikos Athens View Post
                      I believe that team USA was better in 2005-2008.

                      I can't understand why USA don't create a team with its best NBA players.
                      Is it because they don't care any more to be first in miscellaneous tournaments such as Olympic games and WC?
                      I can't believe that is true. Who doesn't want to be first? No one.

                      Here in Greece, and in the rest of the National teams, if one player don't want to play with his NT we conceder him as a traitor.

                      It is the ultimate honor for a player to play with his NT. So the same goes with Americans i think.

                      But most of times we see that American Players prefer not tο play with their NT.
                      The true is that most of times their NBA teams don't allow them because they are afraid of injuries.

                      How does the Americans see all this? How can you accept it? Would you prefer to have team USA with its best players?
                      You are the only NT which brings not their best. (Am not saying that those you have now are not good players. Of course they are.)

                      Dream team 1 & 2 only did it. Play with the best American players from NBA.
                      What happened since then?

                      I think you should keep the 2005 team play together for a few years as the rest NT do.
                      It is the best way to make a solid team.
                      I don't see this as an American thing, but an NBA thing. Many foreign NBAers also skip some of the tournaments too. The 82 game (plus playoffs) schedule is a lot, then ask to perform in these tournaments.

                      BTW IMHO, there is only one Dream Team, who was on it was what made it the "dream" the rest were just NBA players reppin' the U.S., except maybe the "Redeem Team" can keep their name.

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                      • #41
                        This is not the first time the WC has been shown in the US, this might be the first time every game has been shown though. Overall I think US games have been shown since 1994 (and yet people are surprised Americans don't love the WC)

                        Still I find it funny people going, The NBA should change the number of games it's had for near 40 years and decrease profits, for a tournament most of their fans don't even know about.

                        It's never going to happen, even if I personally would love to see the season shortened to about 60 games. The owners will never accept a decrease of anything.

                        If FIBA really wants to make this the premier basketball event their either going to have to pull out of the Olympics, eliminate some regional tournaments, or focus solely on the Olympics.

                        Insisting on tournaments every year guarantees you wind up with years where the stars don't turn out in force, and given Americans almost unanimously support the Olympics more often than not the WC will get the short end of the stick.

                        btw don't we already have a Team USA thread?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by bobo81 View Post
                          What do you expect from a powerhouse team in their own sport?
                          Litle bit more respect for others, perhaps?

                          Anway, I don't understand people here who understimate USA in terms how good they are, I mean in terms of talent. Yeah, they beat somebody by 15 points and all of the suden they are not favorites

                          It's very simple. They have by far most talent in team and they are contenders number one. Only at C they don't have individually best player(s), but along with Chandller Odom and Love with rest of squad can cover it.

                          Is USA sure to win title? NO! But it only depends on them, how well they will play as team, how well tacticley they will play, with how much desire and respect they will enter in game and how well they will individualy and as team will adapt to Fiba rules and Iternational tactics. Other can do their best and try to outwill them and outsmart them. But in the end USA simpley has much more talented team then others, even if it is their let's say "C" team, that evrything depends on USA, others simply can give their best and hope they will surprise them.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by bobo81 View Post
                            See, this is the problem I have with many of our Euro/international friends. They scrutinize and disect ev-er-y little thing, from how USA shakes your hands before the game to "how dare they not know Athens is the capital of Greece!! Off with their heads!!!!!". I mean, are you guys serious or joking? How do you know that Russel was serious here btw? So what if he didn't know and is telling the truth? You guys have to understand that your international competitions are larger than we consider them to be. USA soccer (football for you) had boners when they defeated Spain in the Confederations Cup last year. Spain took it as a joke and didn't care. What do you expect from a powerhouse team in their own sport?
                            My number 1 favorite will always be Shaq.

                            Shaq visiting Athens:
                            Reporter: Shaq, what do you think of the Acropolis?
                            Shaq: I don't remember the names of the nightclubs I' ve visited.
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                            • #44
                              Without Rondo, I can't see USA make it to the final. Rajon Rondo was the only pure PG of these roster. Billups is a great player but likes too much to shoot the 3 and Derick Rose is a slasher, a player that would be SF with 3 more inches. Westbrook and Gordon are mid-level NBA players and Curry is, with Billups, their best shooter.

                              Starting 5 for USA must be:
                              PG- Chauncey Billups
                              SG- Andre Iguodala
                              SF- Kevin Durant
                              PF- Lamar Odom
                              C- Tyson Chandler
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Panathinaikos Athens View Post
                                Any way.
                                Let's hope that from this WC since there is a live broadcasting in states for a first time, that Americans will take more seriously the competition.
                                although Time Warner Cable, the second largest cable provider in the US does not have a deal with ESPN so all of its customers won't be able to see any games on ESPN3...

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