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Originally posted by Luíz for 3 View PostMy opinion is based in what I read in this forum. I never meet greek people personally.
I didn't refer NBA anywhere!!! Yes, it's true spanish people doesn't like too much to talk in other languages...
oh,trust me portugeuse and greek ppl are too much alike."The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline
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Originally posted by Luíz for 3 View PostMy opinion is based in what I read in this forum. I never meet greek people personally.
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Originally posted by Fedfan View Postoh I know.I just said that crazy nationalistic stupid opinions come from everywhere just that there are not many from spanish ppl here because most of them can't speak english good enough to come here.
oh,trust me portugeuse and greek ppl are too much alike.
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Originally posted by Guard View PostHow do you expekt people here when everyone here is cursing and hating on our NT team. Last year in eurobaset almost everyone on this forum was hating on the team and celebrating everytime they concedeed a basket, let even stand when they lost. It's just hate and jealousy because of our success.
Anyway,you can't make ppl change opinions,but I'm sure if I found a forum like this,I would say to my friends of the greek bball forum to come here to discuss with other international fans,exchange arguments and in the end that's the point of forums.To argue and talk.
It's just an idea that maybe you should do,because godamnit you are too few and we need more to figh err I mean discuss with,now that WC is coming.
Vamos!"The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline
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Originally posted by thegreekmeister View PostI wonder why would anyone hate teams like Lithuania or Slovenia. Small countries but great basketball traditions, always play nice bball, don't use unfair help of foreigners (such as "russian" holden etc). I only admire such teams, but even if not admire than at least view neutral. But hate? Its strage
I, personally, admire the sports culture of these countries but I am not a fan of Slovenian players' attitude which makes the final run harder for themselves. In recent tournaments, I don't remember -except '09 maybe- any tournaments that they outreached their potential.
China and France got my votes too, I just don't enjoy the way they play.
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How do you expekt people here when everyone here is cursing and hating on our NT team. Last year in eurobaset almost everyone on this forum was hating on the team and celebrating everytime they concedeed a basket, let even stand when they lost. It's just hate and jealousy because of our success.
or there is another reason and you can't see it .Think, is it possible all the others to be wrong? There is not a single team in the world who played with Spain and left without complains.
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Originally posted by Perseus View Postor there is another reason and you can't see it .Think, is it possible all the others to be wrong? There is not a single team in the world who played with Spain and left without complains.
Don't you think that in Spain we don't complain about these friendly games we play here in Spain year after year. The refereeing is awful, partial and personally I think it doesn't make any favour to our NT. The last game against Brazil only brought shame on us.
However, I can't see how can someone discuss the result of the last european championship, when we won the last 5 games by 20 points, or the last world championship, whose final we won by a large margin.
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Originally posted by sseppel View PostComplaining is the most international sport. Anyone can play. Actually we do it a lot in Spain, too
Don't you think that in Spain we don't complain about these friendly games we play here in Spain year after year. The refereeing is awful, partial and personally I think it doesn't make any favour to our NT. The last game against Brazil only brought shame on us.
However, I can't see how can someone discuss the result of the last european championship, when we won the last 5 games by 20 points, or the last world championship, whose final we won by a large margin.
Spain won Greece clearly in the world final of 2006 and in semis of Euro basket in 2009.
Except the Eurobasket semifinal of 2007. The refs helped you in that game but then again it is something which will always happen unfortunately.
Let's not forget that Serbians for many years had the help of refs.
Do you remember the semifinal vs Greece in 1995 in Athens Eurobasket? And the final after vs Lithuanians? The Serbs in 1995 had the refs with them.Last edited by Panathinaikos Athens; 08-19-2010, 10:20 PM.
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Originally posted by Fedfan View Postoh I know.I just said that crazy nationalistic stupid opinions come from everywhere just that there are not many from spanish ppl here because most of them can't speak english good enough to come here.
oh,trust me portugeuse and greek ppl are too much alike.
I just registered, so I don't really know how many spanish people use this forum, but I would say that the main reason for that could be that there is a large spanish forum ( foros.acb.com ) where you can discuss about basketball with thousands of users. Also with people from other hispanic countries. Not only about spanish basketball, also NBA and international.
The supposition of spaniards not writing here because they can't speak english shows a very poor knowledge about Spain. Yet it's true a lot of people can't speak good english (or can't speak english at all), everyone under 30 - 35 has some knowledge of English, and a good proportion can speak it decently.
And you're right, there are crazy nationalistic people everywhere. I remember once I chatted with two greek guys that were trying to convince me that Nikos Gallis was better and more dominant than Pau Gasol will ever be.Last edited by sseppel; 08-19-2010, 10:50 PM.
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Originally posted by sseppel View PostI guess you realize that your english is not so good either.
I just registered, so I don't really know how many spanish people use this forum, but I would say that the main reason for that could be that there is a large spanish forum ( foros.acb.com ) where you can discuss about basketball with thousands of users. Also with people from other hispanic countries. Not only about spanish basketball, also NBA and international.
The supposition of spaniards not writing here because they can't speak english shows a very poor knowledge about Spain. Yet it's true a lot of people can't speak good english (or can't speak english at all), everyone under 30 - 35 has some knowledge of English, and a good proportion can speak it decently.
And you're right, there are crazy nationalistic people everywhere. I remember once I chatted with too greek guys that were trying to convince me that Nikos Gallis was better and more dominant than Pau Gasol will ever be.
I beg to differ about the level of english spoken in Spain and about the same reason for spanish ppl not coming here.I go both international bball and tennis forums,where Spain is a superpower - and yet the number of spaniards is minimal.I have been in Spain and have witnessed for myself the level of english spoken-almost non existant HOWEVER I'm not spaniard you are,and thus I have no definite proof to disqualify your claim.And it doesn't matter to me.What I would like to see is more spaniards here because it makes the forums much more interesting () and welcome to the forum.I hope more of your friends come as well.
"The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long,where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around,those attempts to escape from crushing necessity,which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable,that every night will find you down and out,crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows.~Céline
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Originally posted by Panathinaikos Athens View PostI totally agree.
Spain won Greece clearly in the world final of 2006 and in semis of Euro basket in 2009.
Except the Eurobasket semifinal of 2007. The refs helped you in that game but then again it is something which will always happen unfortunately.
Let's not forget that Serbians for many years had the help of refs.
Do you remember the semifinal vs Greece in 1995 in Athens Eurobasket? And the final after vs Lithuanians? The Serbs in 1995 had the refs with them.
But all countries suffer bad refereeing sometimes (probably we should exclude the americans). Look the final in the Olympics, I could certainly tell that refs didn't go with us in that one.
Even I don't justify it, I can understand more easily that a ref may tend to favor the local team because of the pressure of the audience. Being a greek fan, I'm sure you will agree
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