2023 WC Final

[Serbian_Layup]

What about Micic and Marianovic?
I also missed Nedovic.

We missed a lot of players, but essentially only needed one of Kalinic/Lucic to get the job done here.

Marjanovic is definitely not good anymore for this level of basketball.

[fasoulaki]

Key for the loss was that Milutinov could not score against german bigs. Jovic was too young and unexperienced for this game. He made mistakes I have never seen from a Serbian team and Bogdanovic was switched-off by german defense in crucial minutes of the game.

[Serbian_Layup]

Well history is not written with ifs and buts. Maybe if Guduric didn't make so many mistakes, Serbia would have won. Nothing to take way from the biggest basketball nation on the planet. But Germany was simply better. That's all.

Is there anyone saying anything differently?

[Serbian_Layup]

Key for the loss was that Milutinov could not score against german bigs. Jovic was too young and unexperienced for this game. He made mistakes I have never seen from a Serbian team and Bogdanovic was switched-off by german defense in crucial minutes of the game.

Bogdan was doubled a lot in the second half but Serbia kept missing open shots and made a lot of bad decisions.

[paspalj]

Is there anyone saying anything differently?

Well you (for example) were saying that if you had Lucic/Kalinic the job would have been done. And I disagree with this sentiment. Other posters talk about who was Serbia missing and how things would be different. And I'm not sure they would be. That's all.

[Dacho88Nk]

Congrats to Germany.

We will win Olympics gold next year.

[tonia]

Well you (for example) were saying that if you had Lucic/Kalinic the job would have been done. And I disagree with this sentiment. Other posters talk about who was Serbia missing and how things would be different. And I'm not sure they would be. That's all.

It doesn't matter of course now but you think that if Serbia had Jokic, Micic and Lucic for example, things would not be any different?

[Ridirkulous]

Congrats to Germany, they were better team today. They used their physicality really well and stopped our inside game with Milutinov. Some posters need to watch out for their language though.

Serbia had fantastic tournament. As for this game, losing Dobric, our most versatile defender on the perimeter, after just 2 minutes was just too much. We had many chances to turn this game around but made bad decisions and missed a lot of open shots in the second half. However, incredible result for Serbia with half roster missing. Good foundation for future actions.

Half a roster is an exaggeration. Jokic and Micic, the others missing (like Kalinic for example) are not really clearly better than what you had. We also missed Maxi Kleber and Isaiah Hartenstein and Nick Weiler Babb technically, but it's a bit of a stretch to say that they would have changed a lot.

[Ridirkulous]

Serbia would have won this game if only had one of Lucic/Kalinic to add to physicality and versatility on defense. Jokic wasn't even needed here.

Brother, from a Bayern fan: Lucic is a finished player. Always injured and became much slower this last two years.

[Serbian_Layup]

Well you (for example) were saying that if you had Lucic/Kalinic the job would have been done. And I disagree with this sentiment. Other posters talk about who was Serbia missing and how things would be different. And I'm not sure they would be. That's all.

Watching how the game went and what we needed for the win or better say make better adjustments in our favor, I thought of Lucic and Kalinic and how they would be so important facing German physicality and defending Wagner with much bigger on ball pressure. But I'm not taking away anything from Germany, they were better team and deserved to win. In fact, they didn't lose a game here, so very deserved title for them.

[Killer Bob]

Germany was the best team in this tournament and deservedly won. My heart was with Serbs, but there was something missing through the whole game.

Problem for Bogdanovic is that he's not Pg and is the best when someone creates for him, Micic would have been huge. But still, he should have taken more responsibility in last Q, but he somehow remained hidden in the corner.

Avramovic with a big heart. Totally impressed by him.

[Killer Bob]

Watching how the game went and what we needed for the win or better say make better adjustments in our favor, I thought of Lucic and Kalinic and how they would be so important facing German physicality and defending Wagner with much bigger on ball pressure. But I'm not taking away anything from Germany, they were better team and deserved to win. In fact, they didn't lose a game here, so very deserved title for them.

Problem with Serbia is that they have so many players, that's almost impossible to have all of them available. But if you're good enough to make the Final, all excuses are not valid anymore. It was the same in 2017 Eurobasket. Serbs were talking only about who they had missed, but were beaten in last minutes by Slovenia without Luka and Dragic.

[Serbian_Layup]

Half a roster is an exaggeration. Jokic and Micic, the others missing (like Kalinic for example) are not really clearly better than what you had. We also missed Maxi Kleber and Isaiah Hartenstein and Nick Weiler Babb technically, but it's a bit of a stretch to say that they would have changed a lot.

I'm not going for useless hypothetical talk but if you think Kalinic wouldn't have made difference is really outlandish. Do you think Davidovac is better than Kalinic? Definitley not. Micic, Jokic, Kalinic, Lucic, Pokusevski, Jaramaz...Basically half roster. But I wouldn't change anything because this team played really good basketball and was very happy to watch them.

You didn't miss Kleber, Schroder didn't want him. He would have played otherwise.

[Ridirkulous]

Incredible game by Johannes Voigtmann after he played a meh meh tournament. Absolute team player and today really clutch three and offensive rebounds!!!!

Obst was really guarded closely and Thiemann had no mismatch in the post. But Isaac Bonga was huge defensively and offensively.

[Ridirkulous]

I'm not going for useless hypothetical talk but if you think Kalinic wouldn't have made difference is really outlandish. Do you think Davidovac is better than Kalinic? Definitley not. Micic, Jokic, Kalinic, Lucic, Pokusevski, Jaramaz...Basically half roster. But I wouldn't change anything because this team played really good basketball and was very happy to watch them.

You didn't miss Kleber, Schroder didn't want him. He would have played otherwise.

Dennis apologised and said he welcomed Kleber. Maxi decided it was not worth it with all the bad publicity. Stil his decision!

By this logic you cannot say you miss Joker because he decided did not want to play. Again from a Bayern fan, ridiculous to count Lucic and Jaramaz as difference makers, fringe Euroleague players this coming season (I am talking about THIS OLD lucic, not him historically). You had them last year and what happened? If Jaramaz plays, Avramovic does not play, so I don't know... Pokusevski makes me laugh.