2023 WC Final

[Srle]

Germany were controlling the game pretty well from the end of the 3rd and Serbia desperately needed Bogdan in that period. The opening was very small after Avramovic' heroics, Germany always looked in control.

You mean if something didn't happen and something else could have happened. A lot of ifs.

Bottom line is, Dennis preformed and Bogdan didn't. First is world champion and MVP other isn't.

If Guduric have made that wide open three on 1 minute mark for the tie, it would have been the whole new game or if he made and one possession after that and cut the lead to -1. We were that close. Petrusev should have played more instead of Milutinov who had the bad game or in pair with Milutinov to counter German's bigs.

[reamily]

Seems like Germany identified their team, Spain back then identified their team, so is France, Argentina. For Serbia ever since 2014 seems that they cant get all the players that they want in their team but thanks to their depth this arent been seen as a weakness but in games that matter (title clinching games). They are at most 6 guys whore as talented or maybe more talented on this current batch but pnly few of them are a good fit..

[Killer Bob]

If Guduric have made that wide open three on 1 minute mark for the tie, it would have been the whole new game or if he made and one possession after that and cut the lead to -1. We were that close. Petrusev should have played more instead of Milutinov who had the bad game or in pair with Milutinov to counter German's bigs.

...and probably you would be a lot closer to a win, if Bogdan has made a Fg in a second half.

[tonia]

Seems like Germany identified their team, Spain back then identified their team, so is France, Argentina. For Serbia ever since 2014 seems that they cant get all the players that they want in their team but thanks to their depth this arent been seen as a weakness but in games that matter (title clinching games). They are at most 6 guys whore as talented or maybe more talented on this current batch but pnly few of them are a good fit..

Serbia was not expected by most people (not me ) to reach semifinals before the beginning of the tournament. I believe that playing in the final and winning a ticket to the Olympics was a great achievement!

[Darrell Armstrong]

Ha ha, a fundamental injustice! Our naturalised player (who at least lives/lived in Germany for four years and is 1/4 German by blood) was so important that by removing him we got better. Of course I am a sore loser. Spain has dominated European basketball for 15 years, dominates also the youth competitions (meaning that they have also endless talents) so it's maybe the last team (after the USA) that needs this kind of help and yet they get a random American dude to play as an MVP at Eurobasket.

Yes, it is imagined because you're interpreting the rules at your convenience. Your case is legitimate in your eyes, and Spain's wasn't. That's not what the rulebook says. They are both covered by the same exception. Exactly like Anthony Randolph, Mike Tobey, Shane Larkin, Tyler Dorsey, and countless other Americans playing for European sides. And the same rule that would allow Joel Embiid to join either France or USA for the Olympics.

I also find aggravating that you play the what-if game, assuming no one could step up to fill Brown's shoes. Like some bit player from a middle-of-the-road Lithuanian team wasn't one of the biggest stories of this tournament. You lost that game, and that loss was the stepping stone that allowed you to grow and reach higher this time. And who's to say without Weiler-Babb legendary towel-waving skills you get past Montenegro or Greece? After all, Nick was +3 against Spain while Lorenzo was -7. Celebrate what you have achieved instead of holding grudges, you'll be happier.

[tonia]

Yes, it is imagined because you're interpreting the rules at your convenience. Your case is legitimate in your eyes, and Spain's wasn't. That's not what the rulebook says. They are both covered by the same exception. Exactly like Anthony Randolph, Mike Tobey, Shane Larkin, Tyler Dorsey, and countless other Americans playing for European sides. And the same rule that would allow Joel Embiid to join either France or USA for the Olympics.

I also find aggravating that you play the what-if game, assuming no one could step up to fill Brown's shoes. Like some bit player from a middle-of-the-road Lithuanian team wasn't one of the biggest stories of this tournament. You lost that game, and that loss was the stepping stone that allowed you to grow and reach higher this time. And who's to say without Weiler-Babb legendary towel-waving skills you get past Montenegro or Greece? After all, Nick was +3 against Spain while Lorenzo was -7. Celebrate what you have achieved instead of holding grudges, you'll be happier.

It would be more suitable to refer to Thomas Walkup instead of Dorsey (Dorsey has greek passport, due to his mother's greek background).

[Darrell Armstrong]

It would be more suitable to refer to Thomas Walkup instead of Dorsey (Dorsey has greek passport, due to his mother's greek background).

The list is too long to keep track of everyone. But regardless of potential ties to the country of adoption, all cases are covered by the same exception. Dorsey didn't have a Greek passport at 16, so still taking up a naturalised slot.

[tonia]

The list is too long to keep track of everyone. But regardless of potential ties to the country of adoption, all cases are covered by the same exception. Dorsey didn't have a Greek passport at 16, so still taking up a naturalised slot.

Technically, you are right. Eitherway, a player who gets their passport after the age of 16 is considered to be naturalised. However, it feels more "acceptable" to naturalise a player who has a connection to the country.

[Darrell Armstrong]

Technically, you are right. Eitherway, a player who gets their passport after the age of 16 is considered to be naturalised. However, it feels more "acceptable" to naturalise a player who has a connection to the country.

I'd say the acceptance criteria is that it doesn't shift the balance of power. Either because the player isn't that great, or because the squad never wins anything. Nobody complains in those cases.

[reamily]

...and probably you would be a lot closer to a win, if Bogdan has made a Fg in a second half.

If bogdan and Milutinov had done that performance in our country...forget that you miss some players...this game players had lose that game for them

[tonia]

I'd say the acceptance criteria is that it doesn't shift the balance of power. Either because the player isn't that great, or because the squad never wins anything. Nobody complains in those cases.

If someone wants to complain, they will find a reason to do so.
Personally, I find hypocritical the fact that in the past we denied the participation to the national team of a player who had the passport of our country at the age of 16 and even served our army but was great enough to be potentially charged whichever success the team would have with him, but we preferred to naturalise a player who had barely lived two years in our country and was laughing at the possibility of his participation few months earlier.

[Shawshank]

Bonga 2m03 at SG and F.Wagner 2m08 at SF + 2 more mobile bigs ar PF and C like M.Wagner/Theis/Thiemann and super fast floor general Schroder running the team

I think most fans didnt realise watching them Germans are really long and same time mobile enough to play switch everything defence

[Srle]

Pesic should have counter that big German line up with Milutinov and Petrusev at center positions and moving Jovic down to SF. Jovic did exceptional job guarding the younger Wagner when he was guarding him in the second half of the game . I wish Pesic was little bit more flexible with his rotations.

[Ridirkulous]

Yes, it is imagined because you're interpreting the rules at your convenience. Your case is legitimate in your eyes, and Spain's wasn't. That's not what the rulebook says. They are both covered by the same exception. Exactly like Anthony Randolph, Mike Tobey, Shane Larkin, Tyler Dorsey, and countless other Americans playing for European sides. And the same rule that would allow Joel Embiid to join either France or USA for the Olympics.

I also find aggravating that you play the what-if game, assuming no one could step up to fill Brown's shoes. Like some bit player from a middle-of-the-road Lithuanian team wasn't one of the biggest stories of this tournament. You lost that game, and that loss was the stepping stone that allowed you to grow and reach higher this time. And who's to say without Weiler-Babb legendary towel-waving skills you get past Montenegro or Greece? After all, Nick was +3 against Spain while Lorenzo was -7. Celebrate what you have achieved instead of holding grudges, you'll be happier.

You are right. I don't have the energy to argue too much today. I even hope you make it to Paris with Ricky Rubio back on board and we finally get your number there.

[Darrell Armstrong]

You are right. I don't have the energy to argue too much today. I even hope you make it to Paris with Ricky Rubio back on board and we finally get your number there.

Qualifying for the Games, plus getting Ricky back? I'm all for it.