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  • Volume 2 of the World Cup Power Rankings



    13 Brazil
    14 Greece
    15 Mexico
    16 Latvia
    17 New Zealand
    18 Puerto Rico
    19 China
    20 Philippines
    21 Montenegro
    22 Japan
    23 Georgia
    24 Venezuela
    25 South Sudan
    26 Egypt
    27 Jordan
    28 Angola
    29 Lebanon
    30 Iran
    31 Cape Verde
    32 Cote d'Ivoire
    Last edited by Kings; 08-23-2023, 03:45 PM.

  • #2
    Slovenia is not a top 10 team anymore. The Vlatko Cancar and Edo Muric injuries have really hit them hard. Their frontcourt is incredibly weak now.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DenverJokic View Post
      Slovenia is not a top 10 team anymore. The Vlatko Cancar and Edo Muric injuries have really hit them hard. Their frontcourt is incredibly weak now.
      It has to be the only case of a squad losing games and key players, and not getting penalised for it.

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      • #4
        It surprises me how championship after championship Spain is placed quite low on the list. I don't understand why, Spain is the current European and World champion... although I think this has always been good for them.

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        • #5
          Yeah Spain playing very good basketball and they lose 4 positions only because of Rubio...

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          • #6
            Greece has also managed to beat Slovenia twice, and they are placed 14th because... Giannis won't play? He wasn't playing in those victories anyway. Greece also didn't fare that poorly against Serbia and Italy, two teams placed above them in the ranking... and somehow also below Slovenia. Seriously, all Slovenia has achieved this summer is barely beating powerhouses like China and Montenegro. They're going to need much more to even make it to QFs.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
              Greece has also managed to beat Slovenia twice, and they are placed 14th because... Giannis won't play? He wasn't playing in those victories anyway. Greece also didn't fare that poorly against Serbia and Italy, two teams placed above them in the ranking... and somehow also below Slovenia. Seriously, all Slovenia has achieved this summer is barely beating powerhouses like China and Montenegro. They're going to need much more to even make it to QFs.
              Yes, it seems the rankings are made without an acknowledgement of group strength. Most people will agree that LTU is likely to beat GRE and make it to the QFs behind USA. So if group composition was taken into account, LTU should be in top 8, but they are ranked 12th. Similarly ITA and SRB are locks to make the QFs (with DOM as a dark horse), so they should both be top 8, whereas SRB is ranked 9th. And by the same logic, only one of GER or SLO should be in top 8, since after AUS there is only one QF spot left for them. Lastly, it will be a blood bath between CAN, ESP and FRA for the two QF spots from that side of the bracket. Yet all three are in top 8.

              A more realistic prediction of final standings would be

              1. USA
              2. FRA*
              3. CAN*
              4. AUS
              5. LTU
              6. GER
              7. ITA
              8. SRB

              *replace CAN or FRA with ESP if you prefer

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              • #8
                Originally posted by christodoulou76 View Post

                Yes, it seems the rankings are made without an acknowledgement of group strength. Most people will agree that LTU is likely to beat GRE and make it to the QFs behind USA. So if group composition was taken into account, LTU should be in top 8, but they are ranked 12th. Similarly ITA and SRB are locks to make the QFs (with DOM as a dark horse), so they should both be top 8, whereas SRB is ranked 9th. And by the same logic, only one of GER or SLO should be in top 8, since after AUS there is only one QF spot left for them. Lastly, it will be a blood bath between CAN, ESP and FRA for the two QF spots from that side of the bracket. Yet all three are in top 8.

                A more realistic prediction of final standings would be

                1. USA
                2. FRA*
                3. CAN*
                4. AUS
                5. LTU
                6. GER
                7. ITA
                8. SRB

                *replace CAN or FRA with ESP if you prefer
                As dumb as these things are, it is a Power Ranking not a prediction of finishing order. Pools and paths to the QF and SF should not be considered here.

                Spain, Greece and Lithuania are too low, Slovenia & Finland too high. Canada beats Germany on thier home floor yet are 2 spots behind....none of this matters.

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                • #9
                  These are the 4 best teams I’ve seen play so far:

                  1. USA
                  2. Australia
                  3. Spain
                  4. Germany

                  Haven’t seen France, Italy, or Serbia play yet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mojo13 View Post
                    Spain, Greece and Lithuania are too low, Slovenia & Finland too high. Canada beats Germany on thier home floor yet are 2 spots behind....none of this matters.
                    Finland won Lithuania in home and lost 4pts without 2 starters in road. I just can't agree that Lithuania is too low. Greece is way too low, Slovenia and Dominican way too high. Finland and Lithuania are just fine.

                    Edit. Mistake on Dominican.
                    Last edited by Dirtyh; 08-16-2023, 09:00 AM.

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                    • #11
                      In the second round, Slovenia will mostlikely meet Australia and Germany, beating one of those without Čančar, Murič, while some of the guards currently are also pretty out of shape, would be a huge upset. Upsets happen, however since it's rankings we are talking about here, Slovenia has no place among top10 currently.
                      Originally posted by Jon_Koncak
                      That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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                      • #12
                        Lithuania is missing half of our top 10 players,we ourselfs calling NT 2023 B roster our position around 10-12th place is accurate

                        In Eurobasket 2022 clear big 3 was Valanciunas,Sabonis,Grigonis only one from them is playing in 2023

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                          Lithuania is missing half of our top 10 players,we ourselfs calling NT 2023 B roster our position around 10-12th place is accurate

                          In Eurobasket 2022 clear big 3 was Valanciunas,Sabonis,Grigonis only one from them is playing in 2023
                          You're right, but other squads have even more key players out.

                          Lithuania should win all their first round matchups and go into the second phase with a clean slate. Then you only have to beat Greece B (no Giannis, Sloukas or Calathes) to earn a QFs berth. And the potential matchups are Serbia B (no Jokic, Micic or Kalinic) and Italy. I think you have a fighting chance against any of them. Finding Lithuania in semis wouldn't be a huge upset.

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                          • #14
                            Yes draw is favourable i agree and thats why there is chances making QF,but i was talking more about NT tallent level

                            LTU NT 2023 looks very shaky in preparation stages.Main problem is weak guards play.


                            Our 2022 roster was alot stronger and we made just 1/8 because draw was ridiculously bad .We ended our road in 1/8 and manage to play 2pts diffrence games with all 3 medal podium teams


                            This 2023 LTU roster is simply weak but we cant ask for better draw is other way around
                            Last edited by Shawshank; 08-16-2023, 09:33 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                              Yes draw is favourable i agree and thats why there is chances making QF,but i was talking more about NT tallent level

                              LTU NT 2023 looks very shaky in preparation stages.Main problem is weak guards play.

                              Our 2022 roster was alot stronger and we made just 1/8 because draw was ridiculously bad .We ended our road in 1/8 but manage to play with entire medal podium teams


                              Game versus Montenegro and Greece will be more like 50/50.
                              Oh, come on. Montenegro has struggled in preparation matches and their guard play isn't exactly a strength. Valanciunas > Vucevic, also. No guarantees, of course, but giving Montenegro a 50% chance against you is completely unrealistic. Greece looks more solid, although not quite a title contender.

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