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  • tonia
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    According to FIBA eligibility rules:
    "A player who has competed in an official FIBA competition after reaching age 17 is tied to that country. Those who played for one country before turning 17 may play for a different country if both countries' federations agree, with the FIBA Secretary General deciding if the federations do not agree. FIBA has an exception that allows the Secretary General to authorize a nationality change to a player's "country of origin" (i.e., a country where the player has recent ancestral roots) if it is "in the interest of the development of basketball in the country"".

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  • Steadysoul
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    Originally posted by Shawshank View Post

    But it was problematic in Brazdeikis case even when Canadas federation gave him permission to play for Lithuania

    Our federation ended up naturalising Brazdeikis.He is born in Lithuania,both parents are Lithuanians,but he is considered *on paper of law* as naturalised player.


    If miracle will happend in nearest future and ltu federation would decide to go easy way like most federation did and naturalise some american guard LTU NT will have to make choice Brazdeikis or american
    He didn't have Lithuanian citizenship at the time. Citizenship is always the first factor they consider.

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  • Shawshank
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    Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post

    The tournament doesn't really matter. If a player has been called up and played at least a game for any given country, he cannot go play for a different one without explicit permission from the previous country he played for. Not sure about the rules for naturalisation (if this player takes a naturalised spot in spite of place of birth).

    Another example is Ignas Brazdeikis. He played for Canada at a youth tournament and now plays for Lithuania.
    But it was problematic in Brazdeikis case even when Canadas federation gave him permission to play for Lithuania

    Our federation ended up naturalising Brazdeikis.He is born in Lithuania,both parents are Lithuanians,but he is considered *on paper of law* as naturalised player.


    If miracle will happend in nearest future and ltu federation would decide to go easy way like most federation did and naturalise some american guard LTU NT will have to make choice Brazdeikis or american

    What is funny with Brazdeikis our journalist asks him questions in lithuanian and he answers in english,journalist ask other question in lithuania,he asnwers in english and that how interviews goes
    Last edited by Shawshank; 08-21-2023, 02:11 PM.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by R1ou View Post

    Thought it wasn’t applying for players who have represented another NT in a major tournament.
    The tournament doesn't really matter. If a player has been called up and played at least a game for any given country, he cannot go play for a different one without explicit permission from the previous country he played for. Not sure about the rules for naturalisation (if this player takes a naturalised spot in spite of place of birth).

    Another example is Ignas Brazdeikis. He played for Canada at a youth tournament and now plays for Lithuania.

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  • R1ou
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    Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post

    Transfers were always allowed. Just require formal permission from the original NT; and obviously with such a player pool, USAB doesn't have any reason to oppose.
    Thought it wasn’t applying for players who have represented another NT in a major tournament.

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  • usagre
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    Originally posted by R1ou View Post
    Not the right topic for this but Argentina missing the world cup to the likes of the DR and Venezuela and not making the pre olympic tournament as they lost to the Bahamas at home as to be their lowest point in years. Upcoming generation looks very bad, missing the world cup and the olympics might become a norm for them from now on.
    Well according to FIBA and it’s very accurate rankings you’re talking about the 4th best team in the world. Lol.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by R1ou View Post
    Also lol to Fiba starting allowing transfers between NTs, Eric Gordon after winning the gold with the US back in 2010 might have a chance to play in the olympics with the Bahamas.
    Transfers were always allowed. Just require formal permission from the original NT; and obviously with such a player pool, USAB doesn't have any reason to oppose.

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  • Shawshank
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    with Scola Retiring in 2021 Argentina basketball collapsed.


    Gordon was scoring and closed game ,Ayton grabing all rebounds,Hield was emotional leader that was talking in timeouts


    ps. according to fiba commentator Gordon mom is bahamian so i have no problems with him playing.

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  • R1ou
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    Also lol to Fiba starting allowing transfers between NTs, Eric Gordon after winning the gold with the US back in 2010 might have a chance to play in the olympics with the Bahamas.

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  • R1ou
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    Not the right topic for this but Argentina missing the world cup to the likes of the DR and Venezuela and not making the pre olympic tournament as they lost to the Bahamas at home as to be their lowest point in years. Upcoming generation looks very bad, missing the world cup and the olympics might become a norm for them from now on.

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  • usagre
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    Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post

    Australia may not have a big star, but the core of the team has been playing together for far longer than Canada's, and they have a wealth of experience and chemistry that tilts the balance in their favour. My opinion, of course.
    Oh they have a big star alright, Giddey even at 20 is an absolute stud. Other than the two 35 year olds Ingles and Mills most of the rest of the key guys are young and don’t have the wealth of experience and chemistry that you speak of. If youre adding 2019 or 2016 Ingles and Patty Mills to Giddey and this current young core then you have a very strong team. But those guys are not the same dudes they were back then. That’s just the way it is.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by usagre View Post

    Because Canada would have the best player on the court and he could go off. RJ Barrett doesn’t have to take a back seat to that many USA players talent wise. Guys like Dort and Brooks can defend and annoy the hell out of the US players. And in a short 40 minute game you can lose and not even know what hit you.

    Other than Josh Giddey Australia wouldn’t worry me much. This is 2023 Patty Mills not ‘16, or ‘19. He’s 35 and not the same player. Josh Green is young and has potential but the rest of those NBA guys are not much.
    I agree that Canada would have the best player on the court... for as long as SGA can hold. Then, Team USA bench absolutely wipes the floor with Canada's bench. I'd buy your argument if SGA elevated the play of their teammates, like Doncic or Jokic can do. But he doesn't. And even if he did, he cannot have the ball in his hands for 40 minutes. That's one of the reasons Serbia lost to Italy in spite of Jokic's dominance. Lack of depth makes Canada weaker, in my opinion.

    Australia may not have a big star, but the core of the team has been playing together for far longer than Canada's, and they have a wealth of experience and chemistry that tilts the balance in their favour. My opinion, of course.

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  • usagre
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    Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post

    Just curious, why do you think it would be a clash? Would me more like a stomping. Canada lacks the tools to handle Team USA. Other squads also full with NBA players like Australia look like better challengers.
    Because Canada would have the best player on the court and he could go off. RJ Barrett doesn’t have to take a back seat to that many USA players talent wise. Guys like Dort and Brooks can defend and annoy the hell out of the US players. And in a short 40 minute game you can lose and not even know what hit you.

    Other than Josh Giddey Australia wouldn’t worry me much. This is 2023 Patty Mills not ‘16, or ‘19. He’s 35 and not the same player. Josh Green is young and has potential but the rest of those NBA guys are not much.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by usagre View Post
    I don’t think the US will face serious challenge again until the semis, and if it goes the way I see things that might be the undefeated clash of the titans and the de facto Final against Canada.
    Just curious, why do you think it would be a clash? Would be more like a stomping. Canada lacks the tools to handle Team USA. Other squads also full with NBA players like Australia look like better challengers.
    Last edited by Darrell Armstrong; 08-20-2023, 09:11 PM.

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  • usagre
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    Originally posted by Dtown View Post

    Spoke a bit too soon, US winds up winning after Anthony Edwards takes over in the 4th.
    I was having visions of the ‘04 game v. Italy midway in the third but that thing completely flipped in like 3 minutes of playing time.

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