Draw for the FIBA World Cup [Manila, Philippines, Apr 29]

[FilWelsh]

I’m a fan of J & J, Jokic and Jamal. I do hope Team Canada will make a call- up to Murray. He is a well- rounded good
kid. I will be glad Filipino fans would see him in Manila.

https://www.nba.com/watch/video/jamal-murray-the-return

[Giannis34GOD]

Yes. So it could be flawed and I ask you to point anything you disagree with. Such as I now see that IRN can't be in Pool E (Japan).

Iran can't be grouped with Japan.... Another unlucky spot for Japan... They were the current best possible Asian team, but because of low rankings, they were always in tough spot since they have to be group with very tough teams.... That's why it's a NO-NO that Continental championship (In Asia is FIBA Asia cup) will not take it seriously....

[FilWelsh]

J.Tatum may also likely make himself available for Team USA…. Jarrett Allen and Mikal Bridges are also in consideration…

[FilWelsh]

Iran can't be grouped with Japan.... Another unlucky spot for Japan... They were the current best possible Asian team, but because of low rankings, they were always in tough spot since they have to be group with very tough teams.... That's why it's a NO-NO that Continental championship (In Asia is FIBA Asia cup) will not take it seriously....

I believe if Japan’s 2 NBA players are available they will finish higher than co-host Philippines.

[Giannis34GOD]

I believe if Japan’s 2 NBA players are available they will finish higher than co-host Philippines.

That's tough for Japan... Because they don't have opportunity to face any beatable African teams, while PHL has possible either Angola or CIV in their group.... I don't see that Japan will be higher rank than PHL... That's what i pointed in PHL forum... They didn't know how the WC procedures work.... In the draw, Japan is in POT 7, It means they will face tough European teams in POT 3... I don't see Japan beating Greece, Italy or Germany... While the easiest Japan will face in POT 5 is NZL....But NZL is also a tough team... Finland and DR w/ KAT is also impossible for Japan to beat too.... Sorry for Japan, they will be 0-3 in group phase....That's why don't discount out the FIBA Asia cup... Continental championships are important to ranked up your rankings... Look at Lebanon, from 59 to 43... That's what 2nd placers in Last FIBA Asia cup give to them...

[FilWelsh]

That's tough for Japan... Because they don't have opportunity to face any beatable African teams, while PHL has possible either Angola or CIV in their group.... I don't see that Japan will be higher rank than PHL... That's what i pointed in PHL forum... They didn't know how the WC procedures work.... In the draw, Japan is in POT 7, It means they will face tough European teams in POT 3... I don't see Japan beating Greece, Italy or Germany... While the easiest Japan will face in POT 5 is NZL....But NZL is also a tough team... Finland and DR w/ KAT is also impossible for Japan to beat too.... Sorry for Japan, they will be 0-3 in group phase....That's why don't discount out the FIBA Asia cup... Continental championships are important to ranked up your rankings... Look at Lebanon, from 59 to 43... That's what 2nd placers in Last FIBA Asia cup give to them...

good point.

[Giannis34GOD]

good point.

Check mr. Mojo's analysis... Japan's possible opponent are Australia or Spain in POT 1, Greece, Italy or Germany in POT 3 and DR, NZL or Finland in POT 5... That's very tough for Japanese team... This is what i point in previous post in PHL forum.....If we used the old forum that using continental championships (In Asia, it's FIBA Asia cup) as qualifiers for FIBA WC or Olympics... That is indeed possible for Japan to be top in Asia and qualify for Olympics... But that is not the case in this current format......

[tonia]

But we have to remember, Greece needs a guy that will help Giannis, especially on offense... That's why having that more options is should be consider.... Both are good players anyway.... What do you think about Greece's chances anyway? I hope they will be group in Philippines' group... a guarantee 2nd round stint indeed there....

I think that what we should not forget that we are talking about a national team, whose players should feel proud that they participate, not participate in order to fullfil some term of their contract..
About Greece's chances, definately it is important not to have USA in our group. Australia is also tough but I guess not unbeatable.

[Giannis34GOD]

I think that what we should not forget that we are talking about a national team, whose players should feel proud that they participate, not participate in order to fullfil some term of their contract..
About Greece's chances, definately it is important not to have USA in our group. Australia is also tough but I guess not unbeatable.

Best possible group for Greece:

Philippines
Greece
NZL
Any of Angola or Ivory Coast

(Note: Because PHL is an Asian team, Greece can't face any Asians in POT 7 and Iran in POT 5 as per FIBA draw new procedure, while NZL is Oceania, they are separated w/ Asia)


Worst case group for Greece:

USA
Greece
Finland w/ Markannen or DR w/ KAT
Any of POT 7 teams (Doesn't matter because any of those in POT 7 are very beatable for Greece, But in POT 7, Japan w/ Hachimura and Watanabe are tough team in that POT)

I still guarantee Greece will make it to the 2nd round even they will be grouped w/ USA, Greece still have slight advantage over Finland even w/ Markannen or DR w/ KAT.... But Greece should not expect easy game against Finland or DR because having their own superstars in their team will elevate their game due to high confidence given by their star players w/ Markannen or KAT....

[Toruko]

Best possible group for Greece:

Philippines
Greece
NZL
Any of Angola or Ivory Coast

(Note: Because PHL is an Asian team, Greece can't face any Asians in POT 7 and Iran in POT 5 as per FIBA draw new procedure, while NZL is Oceania, they are separated w/ Asia)


Worst case group for Greece:

USA
Greece
Finland w/ Markannen or DR w/ KAT
Any of POT 7 teams (Doesn't matter because any of those in POT 7 are very beatable for Greece)

I still guarantee Greece will make it to the 2nd round even they will be grouped w/ USA, Greece still have slight advantage over Finland even w/ Markannen or DR w/ KAT.... But Greece should not expect easy game against Finland or DR because having their own superstars in their team will elevate their game due to high confidence given by their star players w/ Markannen or KAT....

DR would really be a tough matchup for Greece. Greeks always struggle against athletic and fast opponents. 2019 against Brazil Greece blew up a 20 points lead and DR has quite good players like Delgado, KAT, Jean Montero. I also love Viktor Liz. DR is my dark horse.

[Giannis34GOD]

DR would really be a tough matchup for Greece. Greeks always struggle against athletic and fast opponents. 2019 against Brazil Greece blew up a 20 points lead and DR has quite good players like Delgado, KAT, Jean Montero. I also love Viktor Liz. DR is my dark horse.

I even heard the news in DR basketball community that their federation and their coach are going to Boston to talk w/ Horford... If that happens, any European teams should avoid DR in their group, that could be possible a group of death grouping w/ DR, KAT and Horford can co-exist, both can change their position either 4 or 5 or interchange each other in some parts of the game to avoid early foul trouble, since FIBA rules only allows 5 fouls per player....

[Toruko]

I even heard the news in DR basketball community that their federation and their coach are going to Boston to talk w/ Horford... If that happens, any European teams should avoid DR in their group, that could be possible a group of death grouping w/ DR, KAT and Horford can co-exist, both can change their position either 4 or 5 or interchange each other in some parts of the game to avoid early foul trouble, since FIBA rules only allows 5 fouls per player....

They kicked out Germany 2019 without any player we mentioned here. A full rostered DR team is dangerous to any team.

[Giannis34GOD]

They kicked out Germany 2019 without any player we mentioned here. A full rostered DR team is dangerous to any team.

Yeah... Even they kicked out Full strength Argentina in the last game of Americas qualifiers, The reason why Argentinians are out in this year's FIBA WC... Don't count out DR for granted this year...

[Toruko]

I can give you guys one more hint. I am sure that the Philippines will get the easiest possible group. It was the same with China 2019. FIBA will surely want PH to reach the second round.

[Cameronwraitz]

I can give you guys one more hint. I am sure that the Philippines will get the easiest possible group. It was the same with China 2019. FIBA will surely want PH to reach the second round.

2019 was a single host event. Philippines will get the tough group anyway. In terms of Classification – in addition to the Gilas A&B (to play vs Angola), a similar lot can be made by FIBA for Japan E&F (vs Brazil).
But that's completely unnecessary disbalance, no?