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  • GottfriedFuchs
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    The match was an exciting one. Spain won as they are worthy of it and of course Argentina gave a strong fight. i loved Rudy Fernández, he played exceptionally well. a memorable match, an wonderful one.

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  • Breogan
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    Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
    First because I dont like the character of some players especially Rudy. Second I dont like their dirty game when the games get close at the midth of the 3rd quarter. I know its a legitimate part of the game and its the opponents failure if they loose their concentrations and focus especially since Spain is well known for this strategy for years now. However this does not mean that I have to like that. I cheer with Serbia when they win because of their high level of basketball technique and high quality players like Bogdanovic. I support even Turkey when they have success. I am impressed by the progress of Finnlad and the Czech Republic. I have respect to Lithuania. But I hate Spain. At the end its a matter of personal taste. I just dont like them. But as I said this will not change the fact that they are the most succesful team in Europe the last 15 years.
    Just one question, did you support Yugoslavia with Divac, Danilovic, Drobnjak ...? Were you too young maybe?

    That was "dirty game" in all its splendor.

    Just to point we learnt from the bests.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Tesla View Post
    I get this vibe as well. The amount that they have achieved, and yet you can't find any Spanish being boastful. Maybe it has something to do with the regional identities (Catalans, Basque etc). I have no idea, only speculating. I generally find any Spanish speakers really chilled out.

    Also, I would rather see Spain in this position then say Germany or France as the larger European countries.
    Well, can't speak for anyone but myself, but I must say there's not much to boast about. We got a lucky draw, we had a clear path to the semis, other top candidates failed without much intervention from our side, those who had a chance to beat us missed it... Maybe Luc Longley was right

    I mean, even though it's not really my style, after 2009 or 2011 Eurobaskets I could have claimed that we were the top team in Europe, no one could beat us, moped the floor with everyone else, no competition... childish stuff, but with a grain of truth. This year, though? No way. Anyone who had followed the tournament knows Spain wasn't the best team. If we restarted the competition tomorrow, surely we would end up with a different champion. We will have to wait until the Olympics though.

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  • Tesla
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    Originally posted by Katastroika View Post
    The respectful and humble reaction of Spanish IB posters makes me even more happy for Spain winning this championship. A great sports nation.
    I get this vibe as well. The amount that they have achieved, and yet you can't find any Spanish being boastful. Maybe it has something to do with the regional identities (Catalans, Basque etc). I have no idea, only speculating. I generally find any Spanish speakers really chilled out.

    Also, I would rather see Spain in this position then say Germany or France as the larger European countries.

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  • fasoulaki
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    Originally posted by Tesla View Post
    Why do you hate this team?
    First because I dont like the character of some players especially Rudy. Second I dont like their dirty game when the games get close at the midth of the 3rd quarter. I know its a legitimate part of the game and its the opponents failure if they loose their concentrations and focus especially since Spain is well known for this strategy for years now. However this does not mean that I have to like that. I cheer with Serbia when they win because of their high level of basketball technique and high quality players like Bogdanovic. I support even Turkey when they have success. I am impressed by the progress of Finnlad and the Czech Republic. I have respect to Lithuania. But I hate Spain. At the end its a matter of personal taste. I just dont like them. But as I said this will not change the fact that they are the most succesful team in Europe the last 15 years.
    Last edited by fasoulaki; 09-17-2019, 11:33 AM.

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  • Katastroika
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    The respectful and humble reaction of Spanish IB posters makes me even more happy for Spain winning this championship. A great sports nation.

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  • usagre
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    It was pretty funny to see Tony Parker and Kobe Bryant at the World Cup Final. That was probably the first World Cup/Championships game they have ever personally watched. Hilarious to use them as ambassadors for the tournament when combined the two have participated in a total of 0 games. Parker didn’t play in ‘06, ‘10 or ‘14. And Kobe didn’t seem interested in playing in ‘02, ‘06 or ‘10. You get the feeling that had the tournament taken place in his private gym at his home back in those years he probably still wouldn’t have participated.

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  • Kwijibo
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    Originally posted by Tesla View Post
    Why do you hate this team?
    Because haters gonna hate

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  • Arsonist
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    Spain made a great approach to the game, and from the beginning took the pace of the game, the defense of Spain against Argentina was one of the key factors, therefore lowered the percentage of field of the South Americans through the intelligent defense, stressed Scola and Campazo which were the key players of Argentina and neutralized the game, in addition Spain through its defense constantly nourished its offensive and were fine in the field throws.

    Although Argentina was erased from the field in the final, they have a lot of merit for everything they did and got a lot out of the tournament, because reaching a final is not easy and less in a world cup, they also leave with their ticket to the Olympic Games, the silver medal and a great apprenticeship for their younger players, which will serve them for all events and tournaments to come.

    With respect to Spain Gasol cannot have more luck with a year round champion of the NBA and champion of the world, but of course everything in base to work, Rubio also raised of level in this world-wide one, like the brothers Hernangomez, Spain assumed its hierarchy and is worthy champion of this that was a great world-wide one.

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  • kartog
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    La Roja goes all the way, congrats

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    I think Argentina will win and rather easily.I'm still kinda shocked by how easily they dismantled both Serbia and France.I see no reason why they couldnt do the same to Spain.I dont think any of Argentina's players are top class and winning the trophy wont change my mind.But they do play impressively as a unit and with confidence and unlimited energy on both ends of the floor right now.Maybe their two month preparation paid off.They look like a team in mid season form.
    I know a jinx when I see one!

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Nemanja View Post
    I dont think they will not play good becasue they are young ,simply I dont see this trait in them .Both of them are talented,have quality ,but unreclaimed,undisciplined,wrong decisions,any string in professional carreer is play in Nba in some peripheral teams without important role .For me that is not champion character .
    Both played great today. Willy's defence has improved by bounds and leaps since the start of the tournament. Three blocks today and a really imposing inside presence. Admittedly, Argentina's centers weren't the best, but they totally destroyed the Serb's just a few days ago.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by usagre View Post
    Congrats to Spain, Mr. Chacho, Darrell Armstrong and all the Spanish posters. Wait I can’t leave out Kwijibo.
    Very impressive tournament by Spain finishing with a clean sheet just like they did in 2006. Non USA champions just don’t do that other than Spain. Now 2-0 in Finals without Pau Gasol also illustrates that this was and is a well rounded team.

    Argentina was who we thought they were after all. Teams with such inferior talent just don’t win World Events.
    Very disappointed in France and Serbia for being eliminated by such an obviously weak team and subjecting us to this
    Final game.
    Well, thanks. But I think you underestimate Argentina. They won all their games fair and square. They were thrown off their game by Spain today, but, that has happened to every other opponent we faced. So no shame there.

    I agree that we match up pretty well against Argentina and we would have had harder matches against almost any other contender. Australia gave us all we could handle. France would have been very tough. Even teams which didn't make it to the medal round like Lithuania could have proved a worthy opponent.

    But at least it wasn't a USA - Serbia or USA - Turkey As far as finals go, this was one of the more disputed of the XXI century.

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  • Tesla
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    Congratulations to Spain. Best team sporting nation in the world. Congratulations to Argentina as well. Underdog achievements are particularly rare in basketball so it's good to know that it's possible. Not that Argentina don't have great players, but were outside the top tier. This was a great World Cup.

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  • Tesla
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    Originally posted by fasoulaki View Post
    Congratulation to Spain! I will hate this team to all eternity but this will not change the fact that they have everything required to win titles and medals.
    Why do you hate this team?

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