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Originally posted by turk-jugoslav View PostPeople always jealous and discredit the dominating teams and sportsmen.
I remember boxing fans were saying ''Klitschko brothers kill boxing'', ''heavyweight division died'', ''they dominate becuz they're cheating'' and blah blah. It's normal. Fans want to see competitiveness. When somebody is perfect and dominates, people dislike that. That's why boxing fans hated Klitschko, bball fans still hates Spain.
I sided Argentina since I always like underdogs as any person reacts. But we should give the credit to Spain and accepting some things: Spain is the most succesfull bball country of 21st century just behind USA. Marc Gasol is better than Jokic and Gobert. Prime Pau was matchless and Spanish guards are always elite players.
Beside these facts, I don't like Rudy too
Nevertheless, this final was disappointing for the fans-except the Spaniards probably
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I want to give a standing ovation to Argentina. They played with a lot of heart, and even when they found themselves down 20 points they never stopped fighting. They spared no effort, gave 100% and made the game interesting in spite of coming from behind since the beginning. I was expecting a late run until the final minutes, but Spain's defence is just something else. Neither France nor Serbia could stop Scola and he was almost a non-factor today. We controlled the boards and the tempo of the game. Coach Hernández threw everything they could come up with at us, small lineups, big lineups, two or even three ballhandlers, full court pressure, zone defences... nothing worked for more than a few minutes. Credit should go to coach Scariolo, his assistants, and unsung heroes like Claver and Oriola who always had the toughest defensive assignments.
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Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View PostNobody has shot well against Spain. We either have very tasty dicks, or the best defence of the tournament. I'll go with the latter.
Argentina came to the final running the floor and shooting 3pt.
Today shoots bad. Even if Argentina shoots better, Spain probably stiil win.
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Originally posted by Dacho88Nk View PostCongratulations to Spain on 1st place.
Spain can also thank Djordjevic. If he was any other coach, 20+ for Serbia.
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Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View PostI want to give a standing ovation to Argentina. They played with a lot of heart, and even when they found themselves down 20 points they never stopped fighting. They spared no effort, gave 100% and made the game interesting in spite of coming from behind since the beginning. I was expecting a late run until the final minutes, but Spain's defence is just something else. Neither France nor Serbia could stop Scola and he was almost a non-factor today. We controlled the boards and the tempo of the game. Coach Hernández threw everything they could come up with at us, small lineups, big lineups, two or even three ballhandlers, full court pressure, zone defences... nothing worked for more than a few minutes. Credit should go to coach Scariolo, his assistants, and unsung heroes like Claver and Oriola who always had the toughest defensive assignments.
2. Scola was stopped primarily by fatigue because of his old age and the consecutive games, as many had predicted.
3. Size and height of Spain was a crucial factor vs smaller size Argentina. Of course their defense was great also.
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Originally posted by Adon View Post1. The game was not interesting
2. Scola was stopped primarily by fatigue because of his old age and the consecutive games, as many had predicted.
3. Size and height of Spain was a crucial factor vs smaller size Argentina. Of course their defense was great also.
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Originally posted by Buckalis View PostRelax buddy... coaches come with the team, "if" comes with crystal balls... If there was one team that was really under coached in this tournament, that was Greece...
The only thing I didn't like was the excessive use of Papanikolaou instead of two real guards. Other than that, our players sucked and lost by themselves.
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Originally posted by Mr Chacho View PostThe beloved Rodolfo Fernández:
- 2 World Cups
- 3 Eurobasket (plus 2 more medals)
- 3 Olympic medals
- 2 Euroleagues
- 1 Eurocup
- 1 Eurochallenge
- 5 ACB leagues
- 5 King's Cups
- 4 Spanish supercups
- 1 Intercontinental Cup
Not bad...Bronze Medal - IBN 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup Prediction Game
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I was thinking about mens tennis where no player born in 90s has won any grand slam title.Which is crazy if you think about it.Same story in international basketball.After a ton of quality players born in 80s,the 90s crop is dissapointing.So a lesser version of Spain led by 30 + guys still wins titles.
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Originally posted by juli_rc View PostI'm not totally agree, let me say it clear, Spain defence is great, but more in the zone, not so much in the 3pt line. Spain defence collapse a lot in the zone, doing an excellent job, a lot of help came from everywhere. In this area is a elite defence. And the guards are quick as hell (like Argentina). But when you move the ball, an go in and out the zone, you can take a clean 3pt shoot, from time to time. Argentina shoots wide open 3s, but the ball not fall in.
Argentina came to the final running the floor and shooting 3pt.
Today shoots bad. Even if Argentina shoots better, Spain probably stiil win.
Agree about defense of Spain.They have great rim defense,long,quick hands,high ,reactional players,but perimeter defense isnt anything special ,except maybe one players who keep best opponent player ,Llull or Fernandez or whoever .Attempt zone 3-2 ,box and one ,against Australia was ridicolous,against Serbia successed but in one period of game ,more because bad play of Serbia.
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