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  • soulis79
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    What a game guys today!! Congratulations to both teams, a credit more to Spain!

    Boomers was the best team of the World Cup and the only team that made the life really hard for Spain. Clever decision from coach Scariolo to change to a match-up zone in the finale. Great game from Marc, clutch play from Llull in overtime. Spain is a TEAM, with a rare mentality and leaders in FIBA basketball history. This final (or the title) could be the capping stone for this team, that almost for 20 years rules basketball.

    On the other hand Boomers were excellent, they lost today in details ( a loose ball, a lay-up, a missed free throw). They deserve the credit. Their continuity as a team their desire to represent their country is unique. Maybe next year!

    P.S. In Gasols' era(2001-20019) Spain has lost in brackets only in eight games. Excluding finals, USA beat them twice (2004, 2016), Germany twice (2002,2005), France twice (2013,2014) and once Slovenia (2017) and Serbia (2010). Besides 2014 quarterfinal and 2017 semifinal all the other games were close, some of them decided by buzzer beaters.

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  • Sykes
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    Now i am 53, when i was younger and we has to face Yugoslavia ir USSR, we knew it was 90 percent of losing possibilities, and nobody talks about flopping or referees favour.
    Please try to lose with dignity and sportmanlike as we did over the last century.

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    If Australia old guys hold up for another year and they add Exum,Simmons and Bolden for the Olympics they could have another very good chance next year.But it could be their last.Every important player will be over 30 and noone can expect Simmons to be as loyal as Mills to NT(he was even playing at Oceania championships every summer)
    I honestly look forward to Australia breaking the curse once and for all. They have gone 0-9 in the medal round. Totally cheering for them to get their first bronze this Sunday.

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  • saras
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    Spain has X5 greek population and have won medals with naturalized players cause they cant produce their own. Still they only exist in basketball maps only after 2005. Just a firework due to a good genereation of flopping actors

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  • Darrell Armstrong
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    Originally posted by Picek View Post
    maybe you haven't paid all three refs but just two
    in all my years here, and I have been coming to interbasket for more then a decade, I have never seen a comment from a spanish user in which he would condemn a spanish player for flopping or bitching to refs on the floor.
    whether it is an NT game or spanish club game.
    just curious, do you really don't see all the flopping of your players or you see it but you are just fine with it?

    you know, I'm a fan and I can bitch as much as I want and you will come here and say I'm not right about it. and that's fine.
    but at the same time when your player bitches to the refs on the floor you don't say anything?
    you are fine with that or you are simply not objective about it?
    I've had this exact same conversation many times. When one of your players flop you call him "crafty" and say he "knows how to get calls". They only flop if they play for the opposing side. That's a given no matter who you cheer for. Accordingly, someone who fouls hard is a "banger" or a "enforcer". Only will call him a "dirty player" or a "hacker" when he's not in our team. That's a given, no matter who you cheer for.

    Anyway, you should take a close look at all the bad calls that Australia got. Phantom fouls, shoving, bad gestures, flopping, jawing refs... they did it all. Why do you focus only on what spaniards got away with?

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  • Adon
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    Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
    staying out of the debate; but since 1999, with more or less the same generation plus their brothers; Spain has 14 medals in EuroBasket, Mundobasket and Olympics. That's an insane dominance in Europe.
    There is no debate on that. Spain's dominance is a given

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  • Levenspiel
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    Originally posted by Sykes View Post
    Spain

    Olympics. 3 silver 1 bronze
    Eurobasket 3 gold 6 silver 4 bronze
    World cup 1 gold ( as today)
    staying out of the debate; but since 1999, with more or less the same generation plus their brothers; Spain has 14 medals in EuroBasket, Mundobasket and Olympics. That's an insane dominance in Europe.

    Spain NT 1999-2019
    10 Eurobasket: 9 medals
    5 World Cup: 2 medals
    5 Olympic Games: 3 medals
    14 medals in 20 tournaments!
    -- copied from Yannis Psarakis

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  • Adon
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    Originally posted by Cojayar View Post
    This also you need to learn. You are jealous you are not even able to flop. Greece is nowhere and will be nowhere. No matter how much talent you have if you are not able to compete like a team.
    At least you admit your expertise. Omerta is broken

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  • Sykes
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    Dedícated to Saras, with love

    Greece
    Olympic medals 0
    Eurobasket 2 gold 1 silver 1 bronze
    World cup 1 silver

    Spain

    Olympics. 3 silver 1 bronze
    Eurobasket 3 gold 6 silver 4 bronze
    World cup 1 gold ( as today)

    Stop embarrasing yourself, please.

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  • GeKo_93
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    Originally posted by saras View Post
    my wish for spanish friends for sunday's final. the whole world will be happy if we watch the remake of that
    I remember this loser

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  • Cojayar
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    Originally posted by Adon View Post
    We have a couple of talents and we should send them to Spain for their PhD on flopping
    This also you need to learn. You are jealous you are not even able to flop. Greece is nowhere and will be nowhere. No matter how much talent you have if you are not able to compete like a team.

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  • GeKo_93
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    [deleted]. no such blanket accusations & conclusions, please. - Levenspiel

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  • christodoulou76
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    Congrats to ESP on a great victory and good luck in the final!!

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  • Jon_Koncak
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    If Australia old guys hold up for another year and they add Exum,Simmons and Bolden for the Olympics they could have another very good chance next year.But it could be their last.Every important player will be over 30 and noone can expect Simmons to be as loyal as Mills to NT(he was even playing at Oceania championships every summer)

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  • Picek
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    Originally posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    I can see the difference. But as a customer, if I pay to come out as the winner of this game I'd be pretty pissed if my refs give Australia a chance to win. Can you see the difference between giving Australia a chance and not giving them any chance?
    maybe you haven't paid all three refs but just two
    in all my years here, and I have been coming to interbasket for more then a decade, I have never seen a comment from a spanish user in which he would condemn a spanish player for flopping or bitching to refs on the floor.
    whether it is an NT game or spanish club game.
    just curious, do you really don't see all the flopping of your players or you see it but you are just fine with it?

    you know, I'm a fan and I can bitch as much as I want and you will come here and say I'm not right about it. and that's fine.
    but at the same time when your player bitches to the refs on the floor you don't say anything?
    you are fine with that or you are simply not objective about it?

    Leave a comment:

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