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  • Also quite random but I feel like our only pg prospect atm is melih tunca. I am sure that omer kutluay is going to develop into a SG but I also feel the same about derin can. He's not the player you'd trust running your offense but has a lot of scoring potential.

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    • Originally posted by Ibo View Post
      Also quite random but I feel like our only pg prospect atm is melih tunca. I am sure that omer kutluay is going to develop into a SG but I also feel the same about derin can. He's not the player you'd trust running your offense but has a lot of scoring potential.
      Derin Can is still worlds better than what we have rn but you are right. Derin still is a very solid p&r initiator.

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      • Well, Anil Alyanak started very bad but he made a good progress during the tournament. He has a very solid physical profile and will probably end up being 6'9 or even 6'10 tall. He can create face up near the basket, he has shooting upside and has defended very well so far. Additionally, he is very athletic for a Turkish player.

        Cant be that positive about Ziyaettin. I dont have any expectations of him.

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        • Yes, we have come to the end of another summer. When we look at the 4 championships and the results, it was not a very successful season, but we saw good performances from our guards. Now, starting with Melih, we must gradually bring these four talented guards to the level we want.​

          After Kaan Onat - Derin Can Ustun in U17, I liked Kocagozoglu and Cengiz Coskun. Apart from Melih Tunca - Berke Buyuktuncel in U20, no one is good. Elezay in U18 is an NBA prospect for me. An incredible physical profile. Omer Kutluay - Anil Alyanak in U16​

          Most importantly, Melih Tunca needs to have a good season and prepare for Eurobasket 2025. Last time, there was a 20-year-old Cedi Osman in Eurobasket 2015 with a serious role. Still, even though I don't want it, we will need a naturalized guard.​

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          • I dont expect Derin Can Ustun to be in the rotation though Cedevita is in bad shape and they could really focus on developing young guys. Its a good place for him to develop.

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            • Omer Kutluay- Real Madrid (Spain)

              Projected Level: HM+

              Position- PG

              Nationality- Turkey

              Birth Year- 2009

              Height- 6’4

              Active hand- Right

              4 GP, 29.2 MIN, 19.0 PTS, 26/48 2FG (54%), 5/15 3FG (33%), 9/14 FT (64%), 4.8 REB (1.3 OREB), 4.0 AST, 3.8 TO, 1.3 STL, 16.0 EFF.

              Omer Kutluay is extremely talented and crafty point guard. He showed that he is one of the biggest talents of 2009 age. Great ball handling skills, copes very well with pressure and stronger players. Amazing playmaker with outstanding court vision, great at P&R actions. He is not afraid of contact and often literally jumps into the opponent. Kutluay plays very well one on one and is great at creating space for himself.

              Decent defender who presses the ball well. He defends the off ball very well and moves smoothly through screens. Omer has problems with stronger players, but this will be resolved when he plays with players his own age.


              Projected level HM+ with other words true NBA talent right away. But its really too early and his body is not ready at all. For me who watched almost all games.

              Omer Kutluay was the best 2009 born player alongside Fabian Kayser. Also Kayser disappointed to a certain extend he showed his value.

              With that being said Omer Kutluays only weakness seems to be his outside shot. The shot doesnt look half bad but he lacks strength and speed. If his outside shot comes around he will be an outstanding prospect if nothing like injury etc. happens.

              He surpassed all my expectations. He is so good that I am expecting him to take a role in the WC 27.

              Ömer Kutluay (09') - Real MadridPosition: GDate of birth: 27.03.2009Height: 1.91 / 6'3"FIBA U16 European ChampIonshIp stats29.2 MIN19 PTS (1ST place of ...

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              • Emre Melih Tunca finished the U20 European championship with 17.6 points and 6.4 assists. The almost 2006 born point guard has a bit of Oded Kattash. Very smooth game, good decision making, communicates well, is a very reliable mid range shooter and can create in multiple ways from the mid range position.

                Very solid rim driver and can use this threat to run some pick and roll action. A not bad spot up shooter but he cant create a shot from three pointer now, must work on his frame.

                I was very upset when the foretold loan was not happening but it happened eventually. I will watch him closely but I dont expect a break out season a la Alperen Sengun in his MVP season. I think a 15 - 20 minutes from the bench is a realistic scenario. I really hope we can see him in the Euroasket 2025 roster.

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                • Okay so omer comfirmed he's 6'3, also.based of this picture you can tell he grew a lot in one year...he probably will reach around 6'7
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                  • Not that it is very important but according to Eurohopes Emre Melih Tunca is a top five player of the 2005 generation.

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                    • Originally posted by Toruko View Post
                      Not that it is very important but according to Eurohopes Emre Melih Tunca is a top five player of the 2005 generation.

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                      Well deserved!

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                      • Does anyone have any update about demir doğan? Did he quit playing basketball or what

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                        • https://x.com/canpekerpekcan/status/...PMuaZYmmQ&s=19 looks very interesting. He always had a great shot but it looks like.has grown a lot. He was the same height as omer kutluay with the u14s now he is 3 inches taller

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                          • Originally posted by Ibo View Post
                            Okay so omer comfirmed he's 6'3, also.based of this picture you can tell he grew a lot in one year...he probably will reach around 6'7
                            Not that photo, this photo https://x.com/canpekerpekcan/status/1799053940174336272 is important because of the much more objective angle.

                            We should not discuss over and over the same, very clear things. Omer Kutluay said he is 191(6,3), that means 188 without shoes because shoe is 3 cm. And all that means his height is not good, comparable players like Furkan Korkmaz, Hugo Gonzalez or even Onuralp Bitim were clearly bigger as Omer with 15. But he has still time and its very realistic that he will add several inches because he is even for 15 too childish, his father and mother are big etc. In Omers case we could see in 4-5 months a 2-3 inches bigger Omer, that would be not a big surprise but that must come at some point.

                            Best comparable player to Omer at this stage is Bogdan Bogdanovic, he is 196-7 without shoes(not 185, not 205, not 210, real 196-7). With shoes close to 200(6,7).

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                            • Originally posted by TurkfromGermany View Post

                              Not that photo, this photo https://x.com/canpekerpekcan/status/1799053940174336272 is important because of the much more objective angle.

                              We should not discuss over and over the same, very clear things. Omer Kutluay said he is 191(6,3), that means 188 without shoes because shoe is 3 cm. And all that means his height is not good, comparable players like Furkan Korkmaz, Hugo Gonzalez or even Onuralp Bitim were clearly bigger as Omer with 15. But he has still time and its very realistic that he will add several inches because he is even for 15 too childish, his father and mother are big etc. In Omers case we could see in 4-5 months a 2-3 inches bigger Omer, that would be not a big surprise but that must come at some point.

                              Best comparable player to Omer at this stage is Bogdan Bogdanovic, he is 196-7 without shoes(not 185, not 205, not 210, real 196-7). With shoes close to 200(6,7).
                              I mean this picture was 2 months prior to the u16 tournament so why not... 15 year olds can grow a lot even in a matter of 2 months

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                              • I have been trying to follow the pre-season games as much as possible, and the player who has pleasantly surprised me the most so far is David Mutaf. It finally seems like he added the touch to his game that we expect. He's holding the ball for shorter periods, selecting the right shots, playing more patiently on offense, but most importantly, he has become a sharper ball-handler. He now confidently controls the ball even against strong, physical guards, showing excellent poise and bringing the ball up the half-court like a true PG, which was a notable weakness in his game before.

                                What's particularly caught my attention is his ability to handle the ball with ease and confidence, even in situations where he faces pressure. Defensively strong guards no longer seem to faze him, which is a big improvement. He's also no longer just relying on shots from beyond the arc; he's taking mid-range jumpers from the high post and low post, which is a critical asset in modern basketball. A big plus.

                                One of my main criticisms of Mutaf was his tendency to quickly fall into an ineffective scoring mentality, but these adjustments in his approach are making him a much more valuable player. He’s starting to take on a floor general role in the team that could elevate him to one of the standout players this season.
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