Turkish Prospects

[Toruko]

Well as I said I am not happy with this U20 team. It is really exhausting to watch this team but I love Göreners shot release. He isnt always motivated and didnt become half of the player he could have become but this dude can shoot. His mentality to put some effort when it comes to the end is worrisome but he has enough ball handling skills for a forward, contributes with rebounding, defense isnt great but bad neither. Must be more efficient but dude can really create his shot. Workable. Mutaf with tons of TOs but ok he isnt someone who is used to create for others.

[Toruko]

David Mutaf, what a shooter!

[TurkfromGermany]

Trust me no age falsification. Wrong information. '07 generation was the youngest age group who could attend Efes' trials. But, if a player is physically ready and born in January or February by being one year younger than the youngest age group, they accept those players by using initiatives. This always work like that.

Very logic argument, most likely it is the truth. Anyway for a talent like Alp Kerem Yücetürk it is not important if he is born in Sep-Oct-Nov-Dec-2007 or Jan 2008. Kid has real game, we can´t compare him to Alperen Sengün or Demir Dogan. He has more yugo-style. He is a clear PF, not SF, very skilled offensive player with high IQ. He is 195, this is very important because without solid size as big F you can´t take your potential to the next level.

[Toruko]

Tibet woke up and took responsibility big time in the last quarter. Mutaf forces the game too much sometimes but again 27 points. This Ömer Necipoglu guy with 29 points and man was he efficient.

[slice me nice]

Anadolu Efes recruited a '07 born guy from Kyrgyzstan named Umar. Already 2.00 m and playing as C. I had a chance to watch him for 5 minutes, he was way ahead of the rest of the guys on the court with his incredible mid-range shooting skill.

He will be granted Turkish citizenship. Hopefully he will be a great acquisition for Turkish basketball.

So, this guy will play for CSKA Moscow's junior team. He will most probably be granted Russian citizenship. I feel like we have missed a big opportunity. I had the same feeling when Doncic attended trials with Galatasaray youth team at the age of 12 and not picked due to various reasons.

We may see him under Russian jersey in U16 EC if paperworks are done. Bad news.

[slice me nice]

Kenan Reinhart ('07 - SG/SF) of Germany is a good prospect. He has Turkish roots, actively being the part of German U-15 NT. I would love to see him under Turkish NT jersey for trial. But, I assume the federation hasn't heard of him.

[Toruko]

Gran Canaria chose to lift Sarper David Mutaf to the A-team instead of loaning him. Lets see how much time he gets from Lakovic in his first year among men.

[okanial]

What is the potential of Adem Bona? Will he enter 2023 draft? Can he go first round?

[Toruko]

What is the potential of Adem Bona? Will he enter 2023 draft? Can he go first round?

Will he enter 2023

Probably

Can he go first round?

Yes, he can.

What is the potential of Adem Bona?

Hard to say but right now it looks like Clint Capella is his ceiling.

[slice me nice]

What is the potential of Adem Bona? Will he enter 2023 draft? Can he go first round?

He will surely be drafted, most probably in 2023. The range of his selection depends on how he will perform in his first year in NCAA surely.

What is so positive about him is that he is a fast learner and dedicated to basketball more than any guy from his generation. I am so safe to say this because I have known and watched this guy since 2018. He was a stick who only run on floor and had no idea about basketball. He was being fouled out in first period because his basketball senses were not developed, he had no idea about how to make body contact. First, he developed his positioning, basic fundamental and learned how to use his athletic abilities on defense in short span of time. After 2019, he worked on his body, got stronger, started to dribble, penetrate and now he even going coast-to-coast. He is a better finisher around rim, finger sensitivity has developed, but not on desired level aswell. In this current tournament, we see that FTs are the new upgraded part of his game, his release is smooth and promising to even get better.

I see him being drafted between 20-30 picks in first round currently. If he can start to make some mid-range shots and etc during the year, that's another story.

[Toruko]

Gentlemen,

proudly presented Adem Bona our rescuer of the U20...

[slice me nice]

Gentlemen,

proudly presented Adem Bona our rescuer of the U20...

The guy is full of basketball and he is always hungry. Right after U20 EC, he ended up in gym and works with individual development coach in the States. He very well knows incoming season is decisive for his career path and bulks up according to this. He is one the rare characters in Turkish basketball. This kind of work ethic always pay off.

[Levenspiel]

The guy is full of basketball and he is always hungry. Right after U20 EC, he ended up in gym and works with individual development coach in the States. He very well knows incoming season is decisive for his career path and bulks up according to this. He is one the rare characters in Turkish basketball. This kind of work ethic always pay off.

maybe because he's not Turkish? like not at all
any way, I totally agree with you. 1-work ethic 2-mental strength. without these we won't get far by talent alone.

exception to this I see is Omer Yurtseven. mentally I don't know, but that kid is a hard-worker.

[Levenspiel]

Bu kadar saf olmayin. 19, 21 yasindaki cocugun 29 yasindaki tecrübeli, donanimli yabancidan formayi kapmasini daha cok beklersiniz. Yatirim yapilmasi gereken yetenege yatirim yapilir, yani dakika ve sorumluluk verilir ve iste bu Türkiye disinda tüm Avrupa´da gerceklesen olay bu. Onuralp ve Sadik senin dedigin gibi gelistikleri icin degil, antrenörleri onlara güvenip o rolü verdikleri icin parladilar(ne büyük tesadüftür ki bunu yabanci koclar altinda yasadilar).

Serkan Erdogan 27 yasinda, yani 2005 yilinda star oldu. Nasil oldu anlatayim mi? NBA´den Dion Glover skorer olarak geldi ama uyum saglayamadi ve gitti ve bu oyuncu yerine baska oyuncu alinmadi ve Serkan sadece 2-3, dominant olmayan yabanciyla 2-1-3 pozisyonlarini paylasip Euroleague´de isim yapip Tau Ceramica´ya transfer oldu. Günümüz kosullarinda olmasi imkansiz kosullar gercekleserek cikisini yapti.

Deginmek istemeyerek yine Hidayet konusunu acmak zorunda hissediyorum kendimi cünkü neredeyse katildigi bütün turnuvalarin, tüm oyuncularin icinde takimina en cok zarari veren oyuncu olarak bitirmesine karsin Türk insani her seyi 2 gün sonra unuttugu icin cok iyi bir milli takim kayiyeri yapti zannediliyor. 2001´de kendine göre iyi bir turnuva gecirmesine ragmen tek Almanya macinda gercekten iyi oynadi, finalde gercek Hidayet´i izletti ve onun yüzünden cok kötü bir gün geciren Sirbistan´a karsi sansimiz olmadi.

Okben Sirbistan´da takimin lideriyken Lazarevic takimin rotasyon oyuncusuydu ve bu oyuncu bu yil Euroleague rotasyon oyuncusu olarak oynadi. Okben oynasin, Okben hak ediyor olarak lütfen algilanmasin, Okben istemedigi icin hic bir seyi hak etmiyor ama Avrupa´da bu kadar alt seviyede(Lazarevic) oyuncu bile Avrupa´nin en üst seviyesinde sans buluyor ama tek bir Türk bile bulamiyor, cok garip......

Biraz düsünün, Kaselakis´in(90) oynadigi bir Euroleague´de nasil oluyorda tek bir Türk oyuncu yok. Yunanistan´in 89-90 jenerasyonu Pappas(sakatlik ve karakter) ve Koufos haric bütün oyuncularindan gerekli randimani alip, bizim neredeyse bütün 95-97 jenerasyonu kaybetmemiz acik ve net bizim sistemimizdeki problemle aciklanabilir. Iste o bizim sistem(ya da sistemsizlik) bize daha iyi bir Furkan Korkmaz sunamadi, nasil olsun ki? Ikinci ligde oynayabilecegi yil a takima alinip köse sutörü olarak kullanildi, sonraki sezon 3 ay Banvit´te oyun tarzina daha yakin bir sablonda sans bulup NBA´in yolunu tuttu. Sezon basi oyuna yön vermesi istendi ve maalesef basarili olamadi, nasil olsun ki, bu oyun tarzini en son Mayis 2014´te U18 Türkiye sampiyonasinda oynamisti(top gercekten Furkan´daydi cünkü Okben o yil U18 liginde oynamadi). Bir de Bogdan Bogdanovic´in nasil kendi oyun tarzini oynayarak adim adim büyüdügünü incelemekte fayda var.......

This is a great summary. things got a lot worse since Serkan Erdogan's time. We at least used to produce several medium-level/passable players in lower level teams, such as Bekir Yarangume, Tutku Acik, Cevher Ozer, etc who would play 30+ mins in their teams, and may or may do the jump to the EL-level. This is not happening since ages, even with better talent. Enes Taskiran for example should have been a 30+ min player since his outstanding u18. but got wasted for 7 years until maybe last year.

[Toruko]

OMG Givony started to curse our guys again. After Birsen and Ulubay he started writing about Büyükcangaz...

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1553758649121738754