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Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.Mustafa Kemal ATATURK
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Onuralp's debut for Chicago was pretty good not because of his stats but because he played some good minutes and also was part of the roster in some of the most important moments of the team in the 4th and in OT. This shows that the coach trusted him and gave him an opportunity. Let's hope that he has a fruitful end of the season.Yaşa Mustafa Kemal Paşa yaşa;
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It is really good to see Onuralp getting meaningful minutes. He makes 3pt shoots with high percentage. It really important for us. Also, he plays really good defence against NBA athleticism. Also, Biberovic took a new step and become a totally different player. Those guys are shooters with a good defence for Alperen's team. Alperen seems less dominant on the second half of the season. But he showed us that he can reach Allstar level. I think this offseason without national duty, it is a good chance for him. He needs to develop and be a consistent Allstar player. Cedi also having a decent season. Lets look whether he can be a role player of a winning team at least three or four seasons more. From the negative side, Yurtseven and Furkan will probably come back to Euro. I thought that Yurtseven might be a good back up center but he could not reach the level that he reached with Miami. For Furkan, I think he lost his confidence but I like his physical shape. I think he is better now than the last couple years.
For the prospects, Adem probably will be drafted this year. I like him and he will be better in NBA with better playmakers. I hope he will get chance to play. On the other hand, Buyuktuncel is getting less chance, he looks like he has zero tools on the court except a big body but it is his first season. He can be better on the next one.
I really like both Efes prospects, Tunca and Demirel. Efes is already a shit this season and probably will be next season too. It may be good opportunity for these guys.
If Alperen will be a real Allstar next season. We can be a contender for a medal for 2025 EuroBasket with Osman, Korkmaz, Bitim, Bona, Yurtseven, Biberovic. And possibly additions with Buyuktuncel, Osmani, Sipahi, Tunca, Konan, Demirel.
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To resume from the point I stopped there are reasons to be happy this season. Ercan Osmani and Tarik Biberovic have evolved to serious EL rotation players. Osmani needs to work on his body and defense a bit more but he has everything to be a solid EL player. He avoided to deal with the ball in the last couple games. He had to know his limits.
Tarik Biberovic on the other hand had a surprising rise and I dont even mean his prolific outside shot which he can create on a high level. His craftiness is increasing too. He can keep his composure and read the right plays and even though not enough he goes to the rim with good ball handling skills for his position.
I always saw more upside in him than Bogdanovic. Off course he is not even close to his ability to create for himself and others but with the right step he will be on of the best Small Forwards in Europe. I even see the capacity of becoming a scoring guard.
Onuralp Bitim shows also great flashes of defense in the NBA. He is a very solid shooter as well. With Bona including we really could win a medal 2025 in the Eurobasket.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostOnuralp Bitim shows also great flashes of defense in the NBA. He is a very solid shooter as well. With Bona including we really could win a medal 2025 in the Eurobasket.
I don't see a medal, but I see an interesting team. Bona's and Berke's impact in EB is absolutely mysterious ATM. From not to little impact to decent role players I would say. Hard to judge.
I would say Turkey has a guy to go in Sengun and he will show his face whenever he can be absolutely deadly in FIBA or not, overall good rotation in 5-2 positions, but lacking true guards who can be highly creative and carry NT. Who will play at 1?LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
Bitim's role is entirely established in the NBA. But off course the fact that he's in NBA is nice alone and Tarik has been playing well recently. Jasikevicius will put him the right path for further development. As well as off course Sengun's smooth development are nice compliments so far.
I don't see a medal, but I see an interesting team. Bona's and Berke's impact in EB is absolutely mysterious ATM. From not to little impact to decent role players I would say. Hard to judge.
I would say Turkey has a guy to go in Sengun and he will show his face whenever he can be absolutely deadly in FIBA or not, overall good rotation in 5-2 positions, but lacking true guards who can be highly creative and carry NT. Who will play at 1?
He will probably foul out after 20 minutes but he will level up the vulnerable Turkish defense for sure. Thats what we need. Player with a high motor like him is gold for us and he has a NBA ready body.
Sengun as a go to guy is not enough, a big cant change FIBA games by himself. You need a perimeter guy with killer instinct. We expected Furkan Korkmaz to be that guy but albeit being very talented he is in a bad shape and has confidence issues. Biberovic on the other hand is on the verge of being a great player. He will fill that role that Korkmaz and Cedi Osman failed to fill.
The Turkish team is very deep in the 2-3-5 positions. Even Sanli who has found his shape lately will not be able to make it to the team. A team who comes with Korkmaz and Osman from the bench is frightening. 4 position is not that persuading but not the problem like it was in the last 5 years.
The question mark is will be the team experienced enough to survive do or die games.
The PG position is truly weak. Kenan Sipahi is the only guy who can contribute on a acceptable level. A very capable defender who makes his team mates better but he cant shoot. They are still trying to make Biberovic available for the NT to use another big name guard as naturalized player. This would change the entire situation but I am against it.
Even with Sipahi this team can face anyone.
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Originally posted by Toruko View Post
About Buyuktuncel you are absolutely right. Most likely, he will be no option for 2025 but Bona is totally ready to contribute. The role he has inherited this season with UCLA is a totally different role he will have with the NT. He is a superb defender who will have a sudden impact right away. He will also open up a lob target possibility on the offense as well as a great passing option in the transition offense.
He will probably foul out after 20 minutes but he will level up the vulnerable Turkish defense for sure. Thats what we need. Player with a high motor like him is gold for us and he has a NBA ready body.
Sengun as a go to guy is not enough, a big cant change FIBA games by himself. You need a perimeter guy with killer instinct. We expected Furkan Korkmaz to be that guy but albeit being very talented he is in a bad shape and has confidence issues. Biberovic on the other hand is on the verge of being a great player. He will fill that role that Korkmaz and Cedi Osman failed to fill.
The Turkish team is very deep in the 2-3-5 positions. Even Sanli who has found his shape lately will not be able to make it to the team. A team who comes with Korkmaz and Osman from the bench is frightening. 4 position is not that persuading but not the problem like it was in the last 5 years.
The question mark is will be the team experienced enough to survive do or die games.
The PG position is truly weak. Kenan Sipahi is the only guy who can contribute on a acceptable level. A very capable defender who makes his team mates better but he cant shoot. They are still trying to make Biberovic available for the NT to use another big name guard as naturalized player. This would change the entire situation but I am against it.
Even with Sipahi this team can face anyone.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
Without elite PG I don't see how Turkey can really compete in 2025 for medals. Not objectively. Off course, some kind of big time naturalization can change that. But it's not nice to add random Americans and that rarely works.
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Oh, and I hope not that kind of lob threat of Bona coming for you
BTW, 2025 will be harder to win than 2022. France will stronger, Germany probably slightly stronger with even better Franz, Latvia might be super strong, Lithuania will be stronger, Spain likely stronger (it's funny they won 2022, but I think they will have better team). In other words, FIBA and FIBA Europe is sensationally competitive now.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Oh, and I hope not that kind of lob threat of Bona coming for you
BTW, 2025 will be harder to win than 2022. France will stronger, Germany probably slightly stronger with even better Franz, Latvia might be super strong, Lithuania will be stronger, Spain likely stronger (it's funny they won 2022, but I think they will have better team). In other words, FIBA and FIBA Europe is sensationally competitive now.
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According to Ataman Shane Larkin will be our naturalized player in the Eurobasket 2025. Since he really wants to achieve something big with the Turkish NT I support him but I also expect him to be in great shape and ready to work from day one.
Undoubtedly, we will be much stronger than 2022.
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This is the team I expect to see in Eurobasket 2025. I am so hyped rn hahaha
Shane Larkin, Kenan Sipahi (Emre Melih Tunca)
Furkan Korkmaz, Onuralp Bitim
Tarik Biberovic, Cedi Osman
Alperen Sengun, Ercan Osmani, Berke Buyuktuncel
Adem Bona, Omer Faruk Yurtseven
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Weak center position the way you put it, but off course Sengun will play the 5. But the start of the season raises the question whenever he's developing into a star surprisingly. https://x.com/BricksCenter/status/1852157451631759840
There's no truly high level 4, probably the weakest position.
On other hand, promising backcourt. I specially treat highly Biberovic, he's the real deal talent for Turkey at swingman after real long time. He's better than Korkmaz, Osman. He has real hand and real feel for the game. IDK if Larkin can lead the team. Previously struggled and he's not getting any younger so I wouldn't be overly optimistic.
So far Korkmaz, Osman didn't show anything special in EL and Bitim is at best from the same tier, but obviously it's pretty deep an quality backcourt.
To put it short, I doubt this team has a true lead players. It's a question whenever Sengun can be volume scorer or just solid as many NBA bigs and I don't really see true lead guard. I actually would lean towards treating Biberovic as the best perimeter player.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Weak center position the way you put it, but off course Sengun will play the 5. But the start of the season raises the question whenever he's developing into a star surprisingly. https://x.com/BricksCenter/status/1852157451631759840
There's no truly high level 4, probably the weakest position.
On other hand, promising backcourt. I specially treat highly Biberovic, he's the real deal talent for Turkey at swingman after real long time.
IDK if Larkin can lead the team.
So far Korkmaz, Osman didn't show anything special in EL and Bitim is at best from the same tier, but obviously it's pretty deep an quality backcourt.
All of them play for playoff or Final Four teams in starting positions. They just need to find rhythm thats all.
To put it short, I doubt this team has a true lead players. It's a question whenever Sengun can be volume scorer or just solid as many NBA bigs and I don't really see true lead guard. I actually would lean towards treating Biberovic as the best perimeter player.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostThis is the team I expect to see in Eurobasket 2025. I am so hyped rn hahaha
Shane Larkin, Kenan Sipahi (Emre Melih Tunca)
Furkan Korkmaz, Onuralp Bitim
Tarik Biberovic, Cedi Osman
Alperen Sengun, Ercan Osmani, Berke Buyuktuncel
Adem Bona, Omer Faruk Yurtseven
don’t think it’s possible to use both Larkin and Biberovic as they share the naturalised status.1997 - 2012 - 2013
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